There's a disconnect, they haven't given any team permission to talk with Jack. They are working together on the next steps in his recovery. He hasn't asked for a trade, atleast not that anyone has heard. And there are plenty of teams that can take on his contract, especially if the Sabres take back a contract.
- Buff36

1. I never said they've "given any teams permission to talk to him" (I'm not even sure what in the world they'd be talking about, he doesn't need a deal)

2. I didn't say he asked for a trade, but there has been more than enough credible media sources speculating that this whole situation is heading for a trade

3. I didn't say that there were zero teams that could fit his contract. I said there were only a handful. It won't be as simple as it normally would for most teams to fit that cap hit

There's a disconnect, they haven't given any team permission to talk with Jack. They are working together on the next steps in his recovery. He hasn't asked for a trade, atleast not that anyone has heard. And there are plenty of teams that can take on his contract, especially if the Sabres take back a contract.
- Buff36

Jack... you guys must be tight!
And yes there is a disconnect. The PR dept can spin it however they want. But (Jack) said it himself, disconnect is the term he used so you are partly right.
https://www.espn.com/nhl/...w-neck-injury-was-handled

1. I never said they've "given any teams permission to talk to him" (I'm not even sure what in the world they'd be talking about, he doesn't need a deal)

2. I didn't say he asked for a trade, but there has been more than enough credible media sources speculating that this whole situation is heading for a trade

3. I didn't say that there were zero teams that could fit his contract. I said there were only a handful. It won't be as simple as it normally would for most teams to fit that cap hit
- eichiefs9

Well if they were about to trade him I would think the teams looking at him would want to look at his medical and the Sabres would have to give permission.
And just as many saying the wouldn't be surprised to see him in a Sabres uniform this year.
You said very few, didn't disagree, only said there is more if the Sabres are willing to take a contract back.
Right know everything is speculation, nobody has heard anything, for all we now the rehab is starting to work and no surgery will be necessary.
But the Sabres have leverage, it's just in what way do they want to go.

Jack... you guys must be tight!
And yes there is a disconnect. The PR dept can spin it however they want. But (Jack) said it himself, disconnect is the term he used so you are partly right.
https://www.espn.com/nhl/...w-neck-injury-was-handled
- geta02it

How am I partly right, he said disconnect. He wants a surgery that has never been done on a Hockey player and the team does not feel comfortable with it. The 12 week rehab was approved by his doctors and the team doctors, and that ended about 2 weeks ago and nothing has come out since.

Well if they were about to trade him I would think the teams looking at him would want to look at his medical and the Sabres would have to give permission.
And just as many saying the wouldn't be surprised to see him in a Sabres uniform this year.
You said very few, didn't disagree, only said there is more if the Sabres are willing to take a contract back.
Right know everything is speculation, nobody has heard anything, for all we now the rehab is starting to work and no surgery will be necessary.
But the Sabres have leverage, it's just in what way do they want to go.
- Buff36

- Just because nothing is imminent doesn't mean he won't be traded

- I never said he would absolutely be traded, so I won't be surprised if he's in a Sabres sweater next season

- You did disagree. You literally said "that's not true" to "basically the whole thing" that I wrote

- I'm still not seeing you post any evidence of a particularly large amount of leverage that the Sabres have, should they decide to move on from him

And just so we're clear, saying the Sabres don't have a lot of leverage doesn't mean they wouldn't get a good haul for him in a trade. It just means that they probably won't get fair-market value for a player of Eichel's caliber

why do people need to make up roomers? just wait till it happens, if it happens.

Friedman writes in 31 Thoughts #SJSharks' Kurtis Gabriel has been given permission to talk to other teams.

Isn't this the type of player the Rangers would be in the market for? Also he gets major props for his girlfriend Mikayla Demaiter

- Just because nothing is imminent doesn't mean he won't be traded

- I never said he would absolutely be traded, so I won't be surprised if he's in a Sabres sweater next season

- You did disagree. You literally said "that's not true" to "basically the whole thing" that I wrote

- I'm still not seeing you post any evidence of a particularly large amount of leverage that the Sabres have, should they decide to move on from him

And just so we're clear, saying the Sabres don't have a lot of leverage doesn't mean they wouldn't get a good haul for him in a trade. It just means that they probably won't get fair-market value for a player of Eichel's caliber
- eichiefs9

Cause they have leverage, they can trade him or keep him. It's not like he has 1 yr left on his contract. And if they do trade him everyone knows your not getting back the same caliber player, you just hope the sum of such deal makes you a better overall team. And no one can say if there in a no win situation, because nothing has happened.

Cause they have leverage, they can trade him or keep him. It's not like he has 1 yr left on his contract. And if they do trade him everyone knows your not getting back the same caliber player, you just hope the sum of such deal makes you a better overall team. And no one can say if there in a no win situation, because nothing has happened.
- Buff36

christ. I mean they don't have a lot of leverage in negotiating with another team for a trade.

Of course they can keep him, but their options are to play a player who pretty obviously does not want to be there...or trade him. That's kind of a no-win situation to me. They stink with or without him, they may as well get the most they can and try to hustle through a rebuild as quickly as possible.

This is horrible news. Keep Sam and get rid of crybaby Jack who has caused the team to lose for all these years. He is a prima donna and the rest of the players detest him.

This is depressing.

This is horrible news. Keep Sam and get rid of crybaby Jack who has caused the team to lose for all these years. He is a prima donna and the rest of the players detest him.
- FireRuff

it's not news, it's an E8

To BUF: Andrew Copp

To WPG: Sam Reinhardt

Thoughts?

christ. I mean they don't have a lot of leverage in negotiating with another team for a trade.

Of course they can keep him, but their options are to play a player who pretty obviously does not want to be there...or trade him. That's kind of a no-win situation to me. They stink with or without him, they may as well get the most they can and try to hustle through a rebuild as quickly as possible.
- eichiefs9

I don't care if he's traded or not. But you said in one of your post that if they do trade him they would still get a haul, so if they have no leverage why would they get a haul. Don't blame him for being mad about losing, think everyone is and should be. But be the Captain and be part of the solution, and lead this team.

it's not news, it's an E8
- Eklblad

You lose Sam after next year anyways because the team has abused him with bridge deals - get what you can for him today, which should be significant. He has value because he has reasonable term and price and he is coming off a very good season playing on the top line while Eichel sat out.

Lighten up Francis
- Mathwil3

To BUF: Andrew Copp

To WPG: Sam Reinhardt

Thoughts?
- TheUltimateJet

The title of the blog has the word Seriously in all caps.

To BUF: Andrew Copp

To WPG: Sam Reinhardt

Thoughts?
- TheUltimateJet

elden ring looks great

To BUF: Andrew Copp

To WPG: Sam Reinhardt

Thoughts?
- TheUltimateJet

dat #2 pick tho

Nothing wrong with SAm Reinhart but this doesn't come close to getting you the second overall pick.
- prock

Same Reinhart was a second overall pick.

That's about as close as you can get, really.

IMO, with the weak draft at the top as everyone has been saying, moving the #2 pick for Reinhart in some kind of trade/sign package is a better move than creaming over your first ever draft pick.

The Vegas model changed things. Expansion teams can be successful NOW and not have to worry about a decade of suck before being competitive.

I would trade Reinhart and Ristolainen for pick #2, then Seattle can flip Ristolainen to move back into the 1st round and select a guy in the mid-to-late round who probably has just as much upside as anyone not named Power at this point.

Alternatively, we can trade them Reinhart and the #1 overall for the #2 pick+ depending on what they can come up with, and if they take Skinner.

Same Reinhart was a second overall pick.

That's about as close as you can get, really.

IMO, with the weak draft at the top as everyone has been saying, moving the #2 pick for Reinhart in some kind of trade/sign package is a better move than creaming over your first ever draft pick.

The Vegas model changed things. Expansion teams can be successful NOW and not have to worry about a decade of suck before being competitive.

I would trade Reinhart and Ristolainen for pick #2, then Seattle can flip Ristolainen to move back into the 1st round and select a guy in the mid-to-late round who probably has just as much upside as anyone not named Power at this point.

Alternatively, we can trade them Reinhart and the #1 overall for the #2 pick+ depending on what they can come up with, and if they take Skinner.
- BeadyEyedDouche

The fact that Reinhart was a second overall pick is irrelevant as soon as he's drafted. He doesn't maintain that status for his career and that doesn't determine his trade value. Would you take Nolan Patrick for Reinhart? They were both 2nd overall picks.

If the end goal is to make Jack happy then you better get players back who are ready to compete and be in the top 6.

Find another team with a disgruntled player.

Any step back towards rebuilding and Jack is as good as gone by making enough of a stink to be shipped out by forcing the Sabers hand. At the end of the day you bring in players to win now or you ship Jack out.

Same Reinhart was a second overall pick.

That's about as close as you can get, really.

IMO, with the weak draft at the top as everyone has been saying, moving the #2 pick for Reinhart in some kind of trade/sign package is a better move than creaming over your first ever draft pick.

The Vegas model changed things. Expansion teams can be successful NOW and not have to worry about a decade of suck before being competitive.

I would trade Reinhart and Ristolainen for pick #2, then Seattle can flip Ristolainen to move back into the 1st round and select a guy in the mid-to-late round who probably has just as much upside as anyone not named Power at this point.

Alternatively, we can trade them Reinhart and the #1 overall for the #2 pick+ depending on what they can come up with, and if they take Skinner.
- BeadyEyedDouche

It doesn't work like that. Every GM in the league takes the current number 2 pick who comes with years of salary and player control, and signficantly higher potential over the 55 to 60 point number 2 pick that is 25 years old, not under contract, and on his last RFA years.

It would take another significant piece. An A prospect? I doubt the second round pick even comes close.

PS Vegas loaded up on draft picks with trades in their first draft. They weren't trading them away for middling players.

The fact that Reinhart was a second overall pick is irrelevant as soon as he's drafted. He doesn't maintain that status for his career and that doesn't determine his trade value. Would you take Nolan Patrick for Reinhart? They were both 2nd overall picks.
- flyer4ever75

Nolan Patrick (frank)ing sucks.

Sam Reinhart doesn't.

Pretty simple.

Just entering his prime, is a 25-goal, 50-70 point guy, very consistent, doesn't take dumb penalties, is one of the best front-of-net players in the NHL and is defensively responsible.

That determines his trade value.