A TSN article implicates Bowman (GM at the time) as being at a meeting in San Jose in May, 2010, along with McDonough and MacIsaac, when Paul Vincent (skills coac) told them about the allegations, and asked them to report it to Chicago police. They refused.

https://www.tsn.ca/chicag...-players-police-1.1656229
- StLBravesFan

Story seems so weird. i know Ill probably get blown up for asking, but ya, i'm curious who the players were, and why they didn't just beat the poop out of him???

Although they're denying the claim, I wouldn't be surprised to see this cost somebody their job.
- DarthKane

Maybe it already did...there was never a given reason as to why McD was let go so sudden

Stan Bowman was Indeed GM when the alleged sexual assault of two Hawks players happened right around the Western Finals against SJ In 2010 Bowman was also In the meeting where It was decided not to let the alleged victims go to the police.
- Shady1962

Not let them go to the police? How does that work? Do we need to add kidnapping to the allegations?

Stan Bowman was Indeed GM when the alleged sexual assault of two Hawks players happened right around the Western Finals against SJ In 2010 Bowman was also In the meeting where It was decided not to let the alleged victims go to the police.
- Shady1962

How did they prevent a grown man from going to the police. This wasn't youth hockey.

Although they're denying the claim, I wouldn't be surprised to see this cost somebody their job.
- DarthKane

Maybe it had something to do with McD leaving. He was the highest ranking person in the meeting.

How did they prevent a grown man from going to the police. This wasn't youth hockey.
- mohel

That’s what I’m curious about. Not to condone management’s actions, but why was it left to the team to decide if police should be involved?

Although they're denying the claim, I wouldn't be surprised to see this cost somebody their job.
- DarthKane

I like that their lawyer's defense is simply "Well this happened a long time ago now so nothing we can do about it."

Story seems so weird. i know Ill probably get blown up for asking, but ya, i'm curious who the players were, and why they didn't just beat the poop out of him???
- vabeachbear

I'm with you. How does this even happen? Why they hell would they not go to the police right away if they had text message evidence? This looks pretty bad for upper management.

Maybe it already did...there was never a given reason as to why McD was let go so sudden
- NamedSources

Ten years later was sudden?

How did they prevent a grown man from going to the police. This wasn't youth hockey.
- mohel

But why would a grown man not deal with the assault himself? Some of these players are grown men age wise and physically but are they grown men intellectually and emotionally? Perhaps this/these players in question were targeted because they were vulnerable in an emotional way? We live in a community that billets Oshawa General hockey players and from what I’ve heard for over 30 years, admittedly from second,third and fourth hand stories, many of these players are not very bright, they do poorly in school and are like immature oversized kids.

That’s what I’m curious about. Not to condone management’s actions, but why was it left to the team to decide if police should be involved?
- Ogilthorpe2

fear of repercussion from the team. Odds are good these guys were young players or rookies. Going to the police about somebody on the coaching staff could jeopardize your career.

there were 9 guys that dressed for that team under the age of 24.

Versteeg
Bolland
Barker
Bickell
Smolenak
Hjalmarsson
Skille
Kane
Toews

Not saying it was any of them, but there's a pretty good chance it was a younger guy.

fear of repercussion from the team. Odds are good these guys were young players or rookies. Going to the police about somebody on the coaching staff could jeopardize your career.

there were 9 guys that dressed for that team under the age of 24.

Versteeg
Bolland
Barker
Bickell
Smolenak
Hjalmarsson
Skille
Kane
Toews

Not saying it was any of them, but there's a pretty good chance it was a younger guy.
- BINGO!

Ten years is a long time to wait. As I said above, McD was Stan's boss and was in the alleged meeting. Why is it on Stan?

I like that their lawyer's defense is simply "Well this happened a long time ago now so nothing we can do about it."
- BINGO!

It is an excellent defense.

Ten years later was sudden?
- GPHawksfan

Could be that Rocky was first aware of the situation last year (assuming the lawyer sought a settlement), and didn't like McD's response.

But why would a grown man not deal with the assault himself? Some of these players are grown men age wise and physically but are they grown men intellectually and emotionally? Perhaps this/these players in question were targeted because they were vulnerable in an emotional way? We live in a community that billets Oshawa General hockey players and from what I’ve heard for over 30 years, admittedly from second,third and fourth hand stories, many of these players are not very bright, they do poorly in school and are like immature oversized kids.
- paulr

Could be. Seems odd to me that you could tell the team that could cut you for making waves, but too scared to tell the police.

Ten years is a long time to wait. As I said above, McD was Stan's boss and was in the alleged meeting. Why is it on Stan?
- mohel

McD also came from large corporate America, he's not naive to these kinds of situations.

Could be. Seems odd to me that you could tell the team that could cut you for making waves, but too scared to tell the police.
- mohel

I’m just putting it out there? The whole thing seems strange.

Let’s reserve judgement until we know more facts. So far we only have limited information and mainly one sided.

Let’s reserve judgement until we know more facts. So far we only have limited information and mainly one sided.
- Ztra

Are you new here?

I’m just putting it out there? The whole thing seems strange.
- paulr

Me, too. It is a bit odd, and hard to get a handle on. I think, though, that Stan is likely insulated (at least partially) by the fact, if true, that the President of the company was in the meeting.

Me, too. It is a bit odd, and hard to get a handle on. I think, though, that Stan is likely insulated (at least partially) by the fact, if true, that the President of the company was in the meeting.
- mohel

The player should of gone to Human Resources, and whoever saw or was told about it should of reported it to Human Resources. In California sexual harassment training has been mandatory for years, I do not know the Illinois rules.

The player should of gone to Human Resources, and whoever saw or was told about it should of reported it to Human Resources. In California sexual harassment training has been mandatory for years, I do not know the Illinois rules.
- LAHawk

Well, the President of the company has more power, and responsibility, than HR. Telling McD, if it occurred, is the same or better than HR.

Well, the President of the company has more power, and responsibility, than HR. Telling McD, if it occurred, is the same or better than HR.
- mohel

No it’s not. Human Resources once notified is supposed to do an impartial investigation. McDonough was not impartial, as a matter of fact if what is said is true, he would of been interviewed. Again if what is alleged about who was told is true, McDonough put the organization in serious risk.

Well, the President of the company has more power, and responsibility, than HR. Telling McD, if it occurred, is the same or better than HR.
- mohel

No it’s not. Human Resources once notified is supposed to do an impartial investigation. McDonough was not impartial, as a matter of fact if what is said is true, he would of been interviewed. Again if what is alleged about who was told is true, McDonough put the organization in serious risk.

No it’s not. Human Resources once notified is supposed to do an impartial investigation. McDonough was not impartial, as a matter of fact if what is said is true, he would of been interviewed. Again if what is alleged about who was told is true, McDonough put the organization in serious risk.
- LAHawk

The only thing necessary to bring a lawsuit is to show that the company was aware or should have been aware of the complaint. Telling the President of the company accomplishes this.

An investigation by HR is not impartial in the least - they're employees of the company. Let's pretend McD had HR investigate, and then fired the guy. Does this mean anything legally? Nope. The victim is still free to file a lawsuit. How about if the investigation concludes that nothing happened. Does this mean anything legally? Nope. The person can still file a lawsuit. In either case, a jury will decide the facts and the outcome.

The perpetrator actually left the team a few weeks after the meeting. What would an HR investigation have accomplished differently? Aside from the statute of limitations - which is a serious problem for the plaintiffs - another issue is whether the team had a legal obligation to involve the police. These are not kids (minors) in the care of a school; they are adults.