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BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 17 @ 2:33 PM ET
Stan was not the GM in 2010, Tallon was GM and McDonough was president during that time frame and they’re both gone.
- Angotti


That's a good point, i don't understand why they waited so long to file, is it a 10 year statute of limitations?
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jun 17 @ 2:36 PM ET
Vinnie is what he is at this point. He's a hustle player with above average speed, average hands and maybe below average shot. I will disagree in your contention that he is without Hockey IQ. I think if you were to rate it, his hockey IQ is above average.

All that being said, I don't think whether he comes back or not moves the needle too much. Sign him to a $1mil a year contract that can be burried without costing you cap space. You know his level of play and probably what his ceiling is. He will not(should not) block anyone playing better than him and sets the bar for anyone who wants to make the roster.

- TheTrob

I respectfully disagree, any player that turns the puck over at the blue line multiple times a game does not have an above average hockey IQ. He has one good attribute, speed. We also have other options in house, and with flat cap there are probably other options in FA that will bring more to the team on the ice, as well at TDL.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 17 @ 2:40 PM ET
That's a good point, i don't understand why they waited so long to file, is it a 10 year statute of limitations?
- BetweenTheDots


blackhawks filed motion to dismiss because since it is not a child abuse case, the statute of limitations is over.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 17 @ 2:41 PM ET
I respectfully disagree, any player that turns the puck over at the blue line multiple times a game does not have an above average hockey IQ. He has one good attribute, speed. We also have other options in house, and with flat cap there are probably other options in FA that will bring more to the team on the ice, as well at TDL.
- Angotti


You can say that about the whole team.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 17 @ 3:15 PM ET
I was a student overseas a million years ago. Had Eurail passes for Christmas break. Amsterdam red light district was "eye opening."
- rpeters01


I don't think that is what you want to open.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 17 @ 3:25 PM ET
blackhawks filed motion to dismiss because since it is not a child abuse case, the statute of limitations is over.
- LAHawk


It's still wild.

And also gross.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jun 17 @ 3:33 PM ET
You can say that about the whole team.
- LAHawk

Well yeah but we were discussing Vinny, I’m just not a fan, there are much better internal and external options for Hawks.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jun 17 @ 4:01 PM ET
Well yeah but we were discussing Vinny, I’m just not a fan, there are much better internal and external options for Hawks.
- Angotti

You don't know the internals are better options or what options exist externally? We're talking one cheap player with speed and NHL experience. If anyone is blocked it's not because of him.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 17 @ 4:17 PM ET
Stan was not the GM in 2010, Tallon was GM and McDonough was president during that time frame and they’re both gone.
- Angotti

A TSN article implicates Bowman (GM at the time) as being at a meeting in San Jose in May, 2010, along with McDonough and MacIsaac, when Paul Vincent (skills coac) told them about the allegations, and asked them to report it to Chicago police. They refused.

https://www.tsn.ca/chicag...-players-police-1.1656229
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 17 @ 4:36 PM ET
In the rumour mill.... Zadorov is asking for $5.85 million/yr for 5 years. He must certainly mean 5.85 million rubles.
Shady1962
Joined: 02.06.2021

Jun 17 @ 4:37 PM ET
Stan Bowman was Indeed GM when the alleged sexual assault of two Hawks players happened right around the Western Finals against SJ In 2010 Bowman was also In the meeting where It was decided not to let the alleged victims go to the police.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 17 @ 4:37 PM ET
A TSN article implicates Bowman (GM at the time) as being at a meeting in San Jose in May, 2010, along with McDonough and MacIsaac, when Paul Vincent (skills coac) told them about the allegations, and asked them to report it to Chicago police. They refused.

https://www.tsn.ca/chicag...-players-police-1.1656229

- StLBravesFan


Not defending the action, but isn’t Vincent also complicent by not going to the police himself? Or at least to Jay Blunt or Rocky?
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jun 17 @ 4:44 PM ET
You don't know the internals are better options or what options exist externally? We're talking one cheap player with speed and NHL experience. If anyone is blocked it's not because of him.
- rpeters01

You're correct, I don’t know, but how are we going to find out? As far as external options, GM’s don’t know what these free agents will command until late July, we’ll find out then.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jun 17 @ 4:49 PM ET
A TSN article implicates Bowman (GM at the time) as being at a meeting in San Jose in May, 2010, along with McDonough and MacIsaac, when Paul Vincent (skills coac) told them about the allegations, and asked them to report it to Chicago police. They refused.

https://www.tsn.ca/chicag...-players-police-1.1656229

- StLBravesFan

Then I stand corrected.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 17 @ 4:55 PM ET
Rumor any trade for Seth Jones has to include Dach.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jun 17 @ 5:00 PM ET
Rumor any trade for Seth Jones has to include Dach.
- LAHawk

You think he's a bottom 9 winger anyway. You should be all for it.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 17 @ 5:02 PM ET
You think he's a bottom 9 winger anyway. You should be all for it.
- GPHawksfan


I would but don t think the Hawks should go after Jones.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 17 @ 5:06 PM ET
Not defending the action, but isn’t Vincent also complicent by not going to the police himself? Or at least to Jay Blunt or Rocky?
- LAHawk


He absolutely is.

I'm curious who the players involved are, as this is apparently a separate thing from the civil lawsuit that was going on earlier.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jun 17 @ 5:07 PM ET
I would but don t think the Hawks should go after Jones.
- LAHawk

I agree with that . If he were 23...maybe.
gazza53
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 09.15.2017

Jun 17 @ 5:08 PM ET
Stan was not the GM in 2010, Tallon was GM and McDonough was president during that time frame and they’re both gone.
- Angotti


https://en.wikipedia.org/...ackhawks_general_managers

Stan Bowman July 14, 2009 – present

Stan does it again
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 17 @ 5:11 PM ET
In the rumour mill.... Zadorov is asking for $5.85 million/yr for 5 years. He must certainly mean 5.85 million rubles.
- DarthKane


Hahaha hahaha hahaha, 5.85 hahaha, funniest thing i read all day
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 17 @ 5:13 PM ET
I was a student overseas a million years ago. Had Eurail passes for Christmas break. Amsterdam red light district was "eye opening."
- rpeters01


Visited many times, never partook of the goods..........
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:18 PM ET
Rumor any trade for Seth Jones has to include Dach.
- LAHawk



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DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:20 PM ET
A TSN article implicates Bowman (GM at the time) as being at a meeting in San Jose in May, 2010, along with McDonough and MacIsaac, when Paul Vincent (skills coac) told them about the allegations, and asked them to report it to Chicago police. They refused.

https://www.tsn.ca/chicag...-players-police-1.1656229

- StLBravesFan



Although they're denying the claim, I wouldn't be surprised to see this cost somebody their job.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jun 17 @ 5:21 PM ET
Heads up that I'm traveling to visit family in Hawaii (wife's side of the family) yesterday through July 5. My blogs during this time may be shorter but still aiming to write 3 per week or as Blackhawks news come up.

I actually meant to post a blog today but was a tad jet lagged and fell asleep after dinner!

- Theo Fox



Enjoy the vacation, pal!
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