I don’t think it’s rigged I think there are clear biases for some teams and not others. I also think the refs at times want people to pay attention to them and be the star so they dictate the game. Just like Koharski and Stewart did who actually blogs on here. Those guys were terrible imo. They thought people were coming to see them. Also, wtf is a make up call? Call penalties as you see them. That is it and that solves everything. Until they do that the nhl will always be considered a Bush league sport by most. It’s a joke.
- Cptmjl

I think it's also some players rather than teams. that weak call on Leo with Stamkos was b/c it was Stamkos.. and Leo. I think some guys get a ton of respect and other don't.

second point I 100% agree with ... if one team is committing penalties then call them.. if they end up taking 4 in a row you don't have to call a b.s. one to make it not a lopsided.

I was a little surprised Barry didn't challenge the 3rd goal for goalie interference. Point and Killhorn knocked him over and were in the blue for a while before that went in the net. He had time to get into position but just barely and they actually landed on him right before the shot.

you also had Kilorn do this sht after the goal. https://www.instagram.com...m_source=ig_web_copy_link

The Point call... the Refs usually make that call b/c they don't want it to be free range on the Goalies. They started to make that call back when Kreider took out Price in the playoffs years ago... Could Point have avoided running into Varly? Maybe and maybe not.. he certainly didn't curl up or try to jump out of the way... but regardless they have to make that call or you would see Martin doing the same...."I was just going to the net and the D-man pushed me off my skates" the very next shift. If you go flying into the goalie... you are going to get a penalty.. period.
- niteislander

Maybe he curled up because he didn't want to lose his head. or maybe when you are pushed from behind - as you are already leaning forward - that was a natural reaction.

And to top it off they gave him a cross-checking penalty. LOL. He was cross-checked into the goalie. He had no chance to avoid the collision. Did you watch any of the panelists take on that? Kelly Hrudeys take as a goalie?

The 7-men on ice and the penalty Point got were both brutal. The Refs have been horrible all year long.

Maybe he curled up because he didn't want to lose his head. or maybe when you are pushed from behind - as you are already leaning forward - that was a natural reaction.

And to top it off they gave him a cross-checking penalty. LOL. He was cross-checked into the goalie. He had no chance to avoid the collision. Did you watch any of the panelists take on that? Kelly Hrudeys take as a goalie?

The 7-men on ice and the penalty Point got were both brutal. The Refs have been horrible all year long.
- Nasty_Duck

you missed the point.. not shocking. If you crash into the goalie full speed u are going to get a penalty. No matter what.. they are going to protect the goalie and put u in the box to prevent it constantly happening.

all of that started after this play that hurt Price in the playoffs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D0RX9pcJDo

Here is Kreider taking a bunch of goalie out.. you can argue each one of these plays he was pushed, tripped, or crosschecked into the goalie and it wasn't his fault.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtHdkK46iIk the bottom line is I can skate fast to the net and go down on contact and take him out each time. I can make it look like an Oops each time.. only way to stop it is to make it a penalty each time.

I wonder how many Lightening players received a +1 on that second goal? all 7 players on the ice? 6 and just not the guy near the bench? Or do they just try to assume which guy was supposed to come off the ice at that point?

I wonder how many Lightening players received a +1 on that second goal? all 7 players on the ice? 6 and just not the guy near the bench? Or do they just try to assume which guy was supposed to come off the ice at that point?
- niteislander

That’s actually an interesting question

I wonder how many Lightening players received a +1 on that second goal? all 7 players on the ice? 6 and just not the guy near the bench? Or do they just try to assume which guy was supposed to come off the ice at that point?
- niteislander

Lol

I wonder how many Lightening players received a +1 on that second goal? all 7 players on the ice? 6 and just not the guy near the bench? Or do they just try to assume which guy was supposed to come off the ice at that point?
- niteislander

That might be the best thing that came out of that sh!t game last night. That's pretty damn funny...

Here is Kreider taking a bunch of goalie out.. you can argue each one of these plays he was pushed, tripped, or crosschecked into the goalie and it wasn't his fault.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtHdkK46iIk the bottom line is I can skate fast to the net and go down on contact and take him out each time. I can make it look like an Oops each time.. only way to stop it is to make it a penalty each time.
- niteislander

Haha, I remember when for a solid week I kept making nothing but Kreider memes with him sliding into stuff. Most are gone but:





He'll stop at nothing!

Haha, I remember when for a solid week I kept making nothing but Kreider memes with him sliding into stuff. Most are gone but:





He'll stop at nothing!
- keaner17

The funniest part is every clip you hear Joe Mic saying it wasn't intentional.

That’s actually an interesting question
- Cptmjl

Maybe I will troll the Tampa thread with that question.

This is the third series in a row they got a split on the road to start. They can't lose game 3 at home for the 3rd time in a row.

I wonder how many Lightening players received a +1 on that second goal? all 7 players on the ice? 6 and just not the guy near the bench? Or do they just try to assume which guy was supposed to come off the ice at that point?
- niteislander

Reported stolen from twitter

you missed the point.. not shocking. If you crash into the goalie full speed u are going to get a penalty. No matter what.. they are going to protect the goalie and put u in the box to prevent it constantly happening.

all of that started after this play that hurt Price in the playoffs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D0RX9pcJDo
- niteislander

"I missed the point - not shocking". LOL. It wasn't a franking penalty. EVERYONE seeing the play admits that it should not have been called.

If the D-man puts the forward in the net it's 100% on the D-man. Goalies will not continue to be hurt if the defenders know 1) they will get a penalty and 2) they will not be awarded a PP.

There's a difference between not even trying to avoid the goalie and having no chance to avoid the goalie because of Defenders actions. The refs need to have a discussion on what they saw. Why are there 4 officials on the ice?

Forwards have a right to go to the net and try to score - since that's the only way you win. NHL does not need less goals scored.

Here is Kreider taking a bunch of goalie out.. you can argue each one of these plays he was pushed, tripped, or crosschecked into the goalie and it wasn't his fault.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtHdkK46iIk the bottom line is I can skate fast to the net and go down on contact and take him out each time. I can make it look like an Oops each time.. only way to stop it is to make it a penalty each time.
- niteislander

You know the easiest way to make sure the goalie is not injured? Don't push the attacker into your goalie. It's simple. Stop trying to complicate it.

The D-man had a few options on the Point play :

1) do nothing and Point walks in unopposed on Varly.

2) haul Point down from behind and take a 2-min minor for it.

3) reach-around slash to the stick or hands and risk a 2-min minor for it.

4) shove Point to disrupt his stride/concentration and risk your goalie getting run for it, but also draw a penalty and go on the PP.

Credit the D-man for taking the only option that stops Point from getting a high-danger chance and puts your team on the PP.

I watched the replay several times. I really don't think Point could have avoided it and it's not a Kreider situation. The refs phucked up there. And it's very fortunate that Varly was not hurt.

The too many men goal just can't happen. The commentators got it wrong. Did the 7th man impact the play down ice? No. But, that's not the phucking point. The play should have been blown dead on the spot and a 2-min bench minor assessed. Instead of Isles going on the PP, they are down a goal instead. Unacceptable.

Both blown calls directly resulted in a goal for the opposing team. One could argue that the two cancel each other out. Again, that is not the phucking point. Neither goal would have happened if the officials did their goddamn job.

If I was a gambler, I would never place a bet on an NHL game. As a fan, it's embarassing and perpetually disappointing. Last night could have been a great game, instead it was a poopshow of officiating fails.

The D-man had a few options on the Point play :

1) do nothing and Point walks in unopposed on Varly.

2) haul Point down from behind and take a 2-min minor for it.

3) reach-around slash to the stick or hands and risk a 2-min minor for it.

4) shove Point to disrupt his stride/concentration and risk your goalie getting run for it, but also draw a penalty and go on the PP.

Credit the D-man for taking the only option that stops Point from getting a high-danger chance and puts your team on the PP.

I watched the replay several times. I really don't think Point could have avoided it and it's not a Kreider situation. The refs phucked up there. And it's very fortunate that Varly was not hurt.

The too many men goal just can't happen. The commentators got it wrong. Did the 7th man impact the play down ice? No. But, that's not the phucking point. The play should have been blown dead on the spot and a 2-min bench minor assessed. Instead of Isles going on the PP, they are down a goal instead. Unacceptable.

Both blown calls directly resulted in a goal for the opposing team. One could argue that the two cancel each other out. Again, that is not the phucking point. Neither goal would have happened if the officials did their goddamn job.

If I was a gambler, I would never place a bet on an NHL game. As a fan, it's embarassing and perpetually disappointing. Last night could have been a great game, instead it was a poopshow of officiating fails.
- GalacticStone

Agreed. The Refs have NOT been doing their job. It's comical how bad they are.

No idea why there are 4 officials on the ice. Just have 3 on ice with the fourth in a booth up high who can follow the play.

The D-man had a few options on the Point play :

1) do nothing and Point walks in unopposed on Varly.

2) haul Point down from behind and take a 2-min minor for it.

3) reach-around slash to the stick or hands and risk a 2-min minor for it.

4) shove Point to disrupt his stride/concentration and risk your goalie getting run for it, but also draw a penalty and go on the PP.

Credit the D-man for taking the only option that stops Point from getting a high-danger chance and puts your team on the PP.

I watched the replay several times. I really don't think Point could have avoided it and it's not a Kreider situation. The refs phucked up there. And it's very fortunate that Varly was not hurt.

The too many men goal just can't happen. The commentators got it wrong. Did the 7th man impact the play down ice? No. But, that's not the phucking point. The play should have been blown dead on the spot and a 2-min bench minor assessed. Instead of Isles going on the PP, they are down a goal instead. Unacceptable.

Both blown calls directly resulted in a goal for the opposing team. One could argue that the two cancel each other out. Again, that is not the phucking point. Neither goal would have happened if the officials did their goddamn job.

If I was a gambler, I would never place a bet on an NHL game. As a fan, it's embarassing and perpetually disappointing. Last night could have been a great game, instead it was a poopshow of officiating fails.
- GalacticStone

Fair assesment..

The D-man had a few options on the Point play :

1) do nothing and Point walks in unopposed on Varly.

2) haul Point down from behind and take a 2-min minor for it.

3) reach-around slash to the stick or hands and risk a 2-min minor for it.

4) shove Point to disrupt his stride/concentration and risk your goalie getting run for it, but also draw a penalty and go on the PP.

Credit the D-man for taking the only option that stops Point from getting a high-danger chance and puts your team on the PP.

I watched the replay several times. I really don't think Point could have avoided it and it's not a Kreider situation. The refs phucked up there. And it's very fortunate that Varly was not hurt.

The too many men goal just can't happen. The commentators got it wrong. Did the 7th man impact the play down ice? No. But, that's not the phucking point. The play should have been blown dead on the spot and a 2-min bench minor assessed. Instead of Isles going on the PP, they are down a goal instead. Unacceptable.

Both blown calls directly resulted in a goal for the opposing team. One could argue that the two cancel each other out. Again, that is not the phucking point. Neither goal would have happened if the officials did their goddamn job.

If I was a gambler, I would never place a bet on an NHL game. As a fan, it's embarassing and perpetually disappointing. Last night could have been a great game, instead it was a poopshow of officiating fails.
- GalacticStone

Gamblers make many bets on things that are even more random than NHL officiating

You know the easiest way to make sure the goalie is not injured? Don't push the attacker into your goalie. It's simple. Stop trying to complicate it.
- Nasty_Duck

It sounds like u are still upset about the last round. .. just saying.

Agreed. The Refs have NOT been doing their job. It's comical how bad they are.

No idea why there are 4 officials on the ice. Just have 3 on ice with the fourth in a booth up high who can follow the play.
- Nasty_Duck

In the NFL if a coach can challenge for 12 man on the field then NHL coaches should be able to challenge Too many men. Also to me the BS call on Point and the too many man is a wash in my book. No way any Islander fan should be complaining about the missed call when they were gifted a PP they scored on

Gamblers make many bets on things that are even more random than NHL officiating
- UIF

True that. We should make a betting pool based on the number of bad-calls and non-calls that transpire in a given game.

It sounds like u are still upset about the last round. .. just saying.
- niteislander

No. I understand my team has weaknesses that need addressing. Heck we are still roasting management over the 2015 Draft.

I have no horse in this race. You guys knocked us out, and TB gets a $98M Cap. I don't want either of you to win. And since I'd never, ever cheer for the Habs, it's VEGAS ALL THE WAY!

I've always hated that call. I've seen Carey Price get a little bump and recover, then 15 seconds later a goal is called back because of goalie interference. I get goalies need some protection. At the same time Refs need to use some judgement. And if they didn't fully see what happened, have a franking discussion.

It sounds like u are still upset about the last round. .. just saying.
- niteislander

Oh jesus give it up