I dont really care if you cant comprehend what im saying. Ive said it clear enough where most can grasp where i cam coming from. To me its plenty good reason to label him a miss, you disagree. Good for you.
- bradster

You're misguided to think that I don't grasp what your saying or can't comprehend what you're saying. I simply don't think you are correct.

You must really have a hard time with all the thousands of sites that rate drafts the minute they are complete . How do you deal with that? Before anyone has played a pro game, and the drafts are rated.
- bradster

Can you show me a site that rates a player drafted as a miss the minute the draft is complete? Again, that's the context. Not that a draft pundit may not like a pick or think that there was a better player available, etc. If you know of one, I would stop looking at it.

It's simple. Bringing up a player later can add value due to he doesn't reach a higher level of salary and cap hit until later. He might reach UFA status giving him contract leverage at 27 instead of at 26.
- MJL

Super simple, bringing in a player younger, you have more years with that player in your lineup until he is a free agent and more team control. Player can be a FA once they hit 27. Id much rather draft a player to play sooner than later.

Can you show me a site that rates a player drafted as a miss the minute the draft is complete? Again, that's the context. Not that a draft pundit may not like a pick or think that there was a better player available, etc. If you know of one, I would stop looking at it.
- MJL

No, i dont play that petty game where you need proof of stuff and need the links, this is a conversation. Not a court room. IF you dont understand my point, thats on you

Incorrect. I have posted a zillion times that I would never support a team tanking.



Why on earth would I need to explain that? To satisfy your need? It's a simple comment that gave an obvious implication. You have now made a simple comment of go Sixers into this! It's embarrassing. The comment of Ali has him on the ropes, makes all the sense in the world. It's now become all the more obvious.


This has long since been over.
- MJL

Ah, this is HOF stuff. You would not support a team tanking. But after it has finished tanking, you will support it then? Becase that is what it looks like in your support for the Sixers.

Again, MJL. Ali's strategy was to put himself on the ropes, not the other guy. You put that statement in quotes, then claimed it was from Cosell. Then deleted it.

Who made that statement, MJL?

Super simple, bringing in a player younger, you have more years with that player in your lineup until he is a free agent and more team control. Player can be a FA once they hit 27. Id much rather draft a player to play sooner than later.
- bradster

No, a player can be a free agent with 7 Accrued seasons or 27 years of age. Which means when you bring in a player earlier, he can become a free agent earlier. You don't get any more years before becoming a free agent by bringing him in earlier. As an example, Jack Hughes will reach free agent status when he is 25, not 27.

No, i dont play that petty game where you need proof of stuff and need the links, this is a conversation. Not a court room. IF you dont understand my point, thats on you
- bradster

You know full well that there is no website or draft pundit who labels a draft pick as a miss as soon as it is made.

Ah, this is HOF stuff. You would not support a team tanking. But after it has finished tanking, you will support it then? Becase that is what it looks like in your support for the Sixers.

Again, MJL. Ali's strategy was to put himself on the ropes, not the other guy. You put that statement in quotes, then claimed it was from Cosell. Then deleted it.

Who made that statement, MJL?
- PT21

Nah, that's simply your incorrect take on it. It's simple and easy language to understand. When I state that I would not support the Flyers tanking, what I'm not supportive of is the action of tanking. I never discussed Ali's boxing strategy. The simple sports idiom I posted was extremely on target and becomes more and more true with each post you make.

You know full well that there is no website or draft pundit who labels a draft pick as a miss as soon as it is made.
- MJL

didnt think thats what i said, but i know how you like to change my words

No, a player can be a free agent with 7 Accrued seasons or 27 years of age. Which means when you bring in a player earlier, he can become a free agent earlier. You don't get any more years before becoming a free agent by bringing him in earlier. As an example, Jack Hughes will reach free agent status when he is 25, not 27.
- MJL

I will explain, because you need everything spelled out. As we discussed, players are usually cheaper when younger, like sanheim and TK, if sanheim is a FA when 27, he will be at least 5 million. Im done arguing semantics with you, you simply want to constantly fight or not bright enough to grasp it. You find it impossible to just let it be and have a different opinion and want to think yours is the only correct opinion. Sorry bought your luck

didnt think thats what i said, but i know how you like to change my words
- bradster

I didn't change any of your words nor did I imply that you said that. In the context of our conversation which was about draft picks that are misses, you offered up websites that rate drafts as soon as they are finished. My comment was in rebuttal to that and how it does not support your position in any manner.

I didn't change any of your words nor did I imply that you said that. In the context of our conversation which was about draft picks that are misses, you offered up websites that rate drafts as soon as they are finished. My comment was in rebuttal to that and how it does not support your position in any manner.
- MJL

I made an example that people rate picks right after they drafted, i didnt say anything about me believing or anything, just said thats what people do because you say its too early to say someone drafted years ago is a miss

I will explain, because you need everything spelled out. As we discussed, players are usually cheaper when younger, like sanheim and TK, if sanheim is a FA when 27, he will be at least 5 million. Im done arguing semantics with you, you simply want to constantly fight or not bright enough to grasp it. You find it impossible to just let it be and have a different opinion and want to think yours is the only correct opinion. Sorry bought your luck
- bradster

There is no semantics. You were not fully aware of the free agency rule. You incorrectly posted that by bringing up a player earlier, you have him longer before he becomes a free agent. You are incorrect on that because as I stated, the rule is 7 Accrued seasons or 27 years of age. Whichever comes first. You want to make these strawman arguments and claim that I'm not bright enough every time I point out the facts that refute your statements. Players are cheaper when they're younger but if they excel, they reach a higher salary sooner. If they're brought up later, you can have more control and have them at a lower salary, deeper into their prime.

I made an example that people rate picks right after they drafted, i didnt say anything about me believing or anything, just said thats what people do because you say its too early to say someone drafted years ago is a miss
- bradster

They do rate picks right after their drafted but do they anoint players as misses right after they're drafted? No they don't. Credible NHL analysts do not label a player as a miss at 21 years of age.

There is no semantics. You were not fully aware of the free agency rule. You incorrectly posted that by bringing up a player earlier, you have him longer before he becomes a free agent. You are incorrect on that because as I stated, the rule is 7 Accrued seasons or 27 years of age. Whichever comes first. You want to make these strawman arguments and claim that I'm not bright enough every time I point out the facts that refute your statements. Players are cheaper when they're younger but if they excel, they reach a higher salary sooner. If they're brought up later, you can have more control and have them at a lower salary, deeper into their prime.
- MJL

whatever ,,,,yaaaawwwnn

They do rate picks right after their drafted but do they anoint players as misses right after they're drafted? No they don't. Credible NHL analysts do not label a player as a miss at 21 years of age.
- MJL

dont have to label him a miss, but ranking him out of the top 10 does it all on its own, keep trying though lol

They do rate picks right after their drafted but do they anoint players as misses right after they're drafted? No they don't. Credible NHL analysts do not label a player as a miss at 21 years of age.
- MJL

ok, i know what will make you feel better, i wont label him a miss, its just we have a 1st round pick thats not ranked inside our top 10 lol, by a very credible analyst. Feel better? i asked this earlier, and you avoided because thats what you do, but at what point can someone according to you label him a miss? then you wont be upset over a difference of opinion

dont have to label him a miss, but ranking him out of the top 10 does it all on its own, keep trying though lol
- bradster

Out of context. Again, one writers ranking is not relevant.

Who is a better prospect in your opinion? Brink or Foerster?

ok, i know what will make you feel better, i wont label him a miss, its just we have a 1st round pick thats not ranked inside our top 10 lol, by a very credible analyst. Feel better? i asked this earlier, and you avoided because thats what you do, but at what point can someone according to you label him a miss? then you wont be upset over a difference of opinion
- bradster

That's incorrect. I did not avoid it at all. I answered the question.

Out of context. Again, one writers ranking is not relevant.

Who is a better prospect in your opinion? Brink or Foerster?
- MJL

Foerester, and why isnt it relevant, he is reputable and works for one of the largest sports website, but you dismiss that because you dont agree ? or Why?
OK, who has JOB ranked in the top 10 of flyers prospects? BEsides you

That's incorrect. I did not avoid it at all. I answered the question.
- MJL

ok, maybe i missed it, I'll ask again though, what was the answer, when can someone be labeled a miss?

Foerester, and why isnt it relevant, he is reputable and works for one of the largest sports website, but you dismiss that because you dont agree ? or Why?
OK, who has JOB ranked in the top 10 of flyers prospects? BEsides you
- bradster

It's not relevant because it's simply his opinion. Nothing more. It has zero bearing on whether O'Brien will be a miss or not. Zero

Here are two writers who rank Brink ahead of Foerster

https://www.inquirer.com/...am-york-nhl-20210131.html

https://www.nhl.com/news/...rospect-watch/c-319748892

You're making another misstatement here. I have not offered an opinion on where O'Brien ranks.

ok, maybe i missed it, I'll ask again though, what was the answer, when can someone be labeled a miss?
- bradster

The answer is we'll know he's a miss when he becomes a miss and certainly not at 21.

It's not relevant because it's simply his opinion. Nothing more. It has zero bearing on whether O'Brien will be a miss or not. Zero

Here are two writers who rank Brink ahead of Foerster

https://www.inquirer.com/...am-york-nhl-20210131.html

https://www.nhl.com/news/...rospect-watch/c-319748892

You're making another misstatement here. I have not offered an opinion on where O'Brien ranks.
- MJL

check the date on those articles lol, nice try
And carchidi is hardly and analyst of prospects HAHAHAHA, your points are laughable

check the date on those articles lol, nice try
And carchidi is hardly and analyst of prospects HAHAHAHA, your points are laughable
- bradster

You made my point for me, thank you. My point is that any prospect article you want to read doesn't mean squat!