True. Didn't hayes say as much?

Let me know when the Flyers sign a elite level free agent. My bad JVR and Hayes fit the bill. Take a walk.
- hello it's me 2050

nah. hayes actually denied saying that.

back to back seasons signing top UFAs (JVR, Hayes) yet no one wants to play here

I know Hayes was traded for but he opted to not test free agency and sign with us
- arichardson22

Hayes signed here because Flyers grossly overpaid...Noone was coming close to that offer . You want to grossly overpay you can get most free agents

nah. hayes actually denied saying that.
- Ftown19125

link?

1. very true, the sample size is not even close to large enough
2. good players that play the "system" well get you into the top 4, that is all you ask for if you want a chance to win. See Montreal and the Islanders for examples.
3. Outside opinions mean nothing now, since these players are demonstrating at a professional level they are top prospects.
- jd250

I disagree with this. If that was the case, all top 4 teams would receive same odds from bookies as historically, each would have the same chance.

I disagree with this too: what makes them "top" prospects? They are, at this time, viable ones. No more.

Hayes signed here because Flyers grossly overpaid...Noone was coming close to that offer . You want to grossly overpay you can get most free agents
- hfc355

lol at grossly. they overpaid, but not by as much as you're pretending they did.

Hayes signed here because Flyers grossly overpaid...Noone was coming close to that offer . You want to grossly overpay you can get most free agents
- hfc355

Nah the flyers are a premier landing spot.

link?
- hello it's me 2050

you can google it. or go back and listen to spittin chiclets episodes, it was addressed on there as well.

doesn't mean he didn't say it either. but after it came out, he denied saying it.

Don't be so defensive. Just b/c I called you a moron doesn't mean I am upset in the slightest.

Here is the original post, accompanied by appropriate crotch shot. I am not interested in MJL's motivation, just yours.



Tell me then, if not me, who has ever said what you are gently but sarcastically putting down?
- PT21

Please explain "appropriate crotch shot"? What was appropriate about it?

lol at grossly. they overpaid, but not by as much as you're pretending they did.
- Ftown19125

Whats the value of a 45 pt player who goes missing for weeks on end...7.125M per is GROSSLY over that value

Whats the value of a 45 pt player who goes missing for weeks on end...7.125M per is GROSSLY over that value
- hfc355

around the same time, jeff skinner signed a deal for 9M per. some posters here actually wanted him too. that's grossly overpaying.

Hayes signed here because Flyers grossly overpaid...Noone was coming close to that offer . You want to grossly overpay you can get most free agents
- hfc355

Winnipeg paid a decent price (1st, Lemieux conditional 4th) for Hayes and every single free agent article pegged Hayes as a top target. I don't get why people say this false idea he was "grossly" overpaid. Fletcher must have known other teams would chase him if we stepped up to get his rights IMO. Literally any deal can be called an overpayment.

Winnipeg paid a decent price (1st, Lemieux conditional 4th) for Hayes and every single free agent article pegged Hayes as a top target. I don't get why people say this false idea he was "grossly" overpaid. Fletcher must have known other teams would chase him if we stepped up to get his rights IMO. Literally any deal can be called an overpayment.
- arichardson22

the NMC was horrible, but i wouldn't call his deal a gross overpayment.

Whats the value of a 45 pt player who goes missing for weeks on end...7.125M per is GROSSLY over that value
- hfc355

Hayes was rumoured to be getting 6.5 mill in Free Agency. Flyers overpaid by 600k

the NMC was horrible, but i wouldn't call his deal a gross overpayment.
- Ftown19125

Yeah not thrilled about it but from a players negotiating stand point, I get it. He probably didn't want to go to Seattle though. He doesn't seem like a guy who would wear his welcome out and refuse a trade in my opinion. He sounded pretty honest on Spittin Chiclets saying he saw Philly as a home and chance to win with how our roster was built, too.

Nah the flyers are a premier landing spot.
- hello it's me 2050

lol i didn't say this. but you keep pushing that "the flyers aren't a destination" narrative, weirdo. everything is terrible, worst it could possibly be. no one is signing here. our own free agents aren't even going to sign here. WE GET IT.

AN ELEMENTARY, EXTEMPORANEOUS, UNSOLICITED EXPOSITION ON THE METHODOLOGY OF REFUTATION OF PROBABILITY/CHANCE BASED ARGUMENTS IN ANY HOCKEY DISCUSSION

By

PT21, exasperated insufferable schmuck

ABSTRACT: FU

Any time someone uses the term likely/'odds are'/probably/'chances are' etc. in putting form a pov, there are two, and only two ways of refuting it.

1. Look at the past, and find a sufficiently high fraction of times the proposition failed.
2. Look at the hypothesis, and find a way to question the fact that it is in fact a random event governed by the laws of chance.

The following is an example of refutation not of argument but of the basic mental sanity of failed refuter:

"Xyz, which fails your proposition, occurred in abc times throughout history."

This concludes this exposition.

Please explain "appropriate crotch shot"? What was appropriate about it?
- mickel25

It befitted the company of the worth of your post.

AN ELEMENTARY, EXTEMPORANEOUS, UNSOLICITED EXPOSITION ON THE METHODOLOGY OF REFUTATION OF PROBABILITY/CHANCE BASED ARGUMENTS IN ANY HOCKEY DISCUSSION

By

PT21, exasperated insufferable schmuck

ABSTRACT: FU

Any time someone uses the term likely/'odds are'/probably/'chances are' etc. in putting form a pov, there are two, and only two ways of refuting it.

1. Look at the past, and find a sufficiently high fraction of times the proposition failed.
2. Look at the hypothesis, and find a way to question the fact that it is in fact a random event governed by the laws of chance.

The following is an example of refutation not of argument but of the basic mental sanity of failed refuter:

"Xyz, which fails your proposition, occurred in abc times throughout history."

This concludes this exposition.





- PT21

So you got mad at me and basically called me gay. Now you are taking your toys and going home?

Classic PT21.

Can't wait for your follow up post after you "concluded this exposition".

So you got mad at me and basically called me gay. Now you are taking your toys and going home?

Classic PT21.

Can't wait for your follow up post after you "concluded this exposition".
- mickel25

Huh?

Anyone pay attention to baseball?

As the Phillies, I would offer Shohei Ohtani $300m/6 years.

Imagine a backup goalie who plays 1st line center in his off days.

It's incredible.

Huh?
- PT21

Ok re-read it. Not about me. My bad.

However, if you are going to call some one a richard shouldn't you do it directly?

Ok re-read it. Not about me. My bad.

However, if you are going to call some one a richard shouldn't you do it directly?
- mickel25

Wtf are you going on and on about? That was the ad running when I took the screenshot on my browser. I did not cut it out because I thought it was funny.

"Xyz, which fails your proposition, occurred in abc times throughout history."







- PT21

See Oilers, Sabres, Coyotes, Panthers, etc.

It befitted the company of the worth of your post.
- PT21

So what does this mean?

See Oilers, Sabres, Coyotes, Panthers, etc.
- mickel25

Ok lets play this silly game, since you at least have a sense of humor.

The last one ... keep your powder dry. Ekblad was out. They need to spend more.

But collectively, how many less cups than the Flyers last 25 years?