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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 15 @ 9:09 AM ET
If that's the comp it's hard to argue against the pick. Pietrangelo was the 3rd d-man taken in 2008, 4th overall. Just a quick note, Sabres took Tyler Myers 12th and Erik Karlsson was taken 15th.
- Michael Pachla

Tyler Myers downfall was he was not Chara.

The coaching staff and this fanbase wanted him to be Chara.

Big rugged tough D-man who would punch a guy because he was tall.
They wanted him to be a defensive D-man which he was not.

He could have been a Karlsson clone with his offense but he got ruined by Ruff and co.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 15 @ 9:09 AM ET
Pronman's final prospect rankings.



https://theathletic.com/2...y-pronmans-final-top-151/

- TheSabresTaco



Every description I hear of Power reminds me of how Pilut was described. "His best asset is the first pass".
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 15 @ 9:16 AM ET
Tyler Myers downfall was he was not Chara.

The coaching staff and this fanbase wanted him to be Chara.

Big rugged tough D-man who would punch a guy because he was tall.
They wanted him to be a defensive D-man which he was not.

He could have been a Karlsson clone with his offense but he got ruined by Ruff and co.

- ImThatGuy

I don't know about all that. But the consensus is that his development was ruined when tallider left
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 15 @ 9:18 AM ET
Every description I hear of Power reminds me of how Pilut was described. "His best asset is the first pass".
- Slump Buster

oh my. That's a new one. Not dismissing it, just saying it's a new take
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 15 @ 9:20 AM ET
Tyler Myers downfall was he was not Chara.

The coaching staff and this fanbase wanted him to be Chara.

Big rugged tough D-man who would punch a guy because he was tall.
They wanted him to be a defensive D-man which he was not.

He could have been a Karlsson clone with his offense but he got ruined by Ruff and co.

- ImThatGuy


Myers problem was that he was never the same D after his first year or two. I don't recall anyone claiming he wasn't physical enough. I do recall him becoming a train wreck in his own zone. Some say it was Tallinder leaving, others say that Lindy tried to get him to think too much rather than relying on his instincts.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 15 @ 9:20 AM ET
Power 1...

but...

Skating: Average

Puck Skills: Below-average
Hockey Sense: Above-average
Compete: Average

- Michael Pachla


People should take note of that. Some rankings severely overrate his skating. It takes him a few steps to get rumbling
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 15 @ 9:24 AM ET
People should take note of that. Some rankings severely overrate his skating. It takes him a few steps to get rumbling
- Hank Balling

Great point. It's a tough draft at the top and Pronman mentions this draft being below average up there.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:25 AM ET
Power 1...

but...

Skating: Average
Puck Skills: Below-average
Hockey Sense: Above-average
Compete: Average

- Michael Pachla


Attributes are graded on a scale using the terms poor (lowest), below average, average, above average, high end, and elite (highest). Average is meant as a compliment, not as a criticism. Saying an attribute is average means it projects as NHL average. Shots are only graded if they are notably good or poor.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 15 @ 9:26 AM ET
People should take note of that. Some rankings severely overrate his skating. It takes him a few steps to get rumbling
- Hank Balling


Looks like a my report card from back in the day :

"D,", " 2C's" and a "B"

Is the skating in comparison to his size or other players?

Ouch
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:27 AM ET
Every description I hear of Power reminds me of how Pilut was described. "His best asset is the first pass".
- Slump Buster


Power at 18 is a better prospect than Pilut at 22.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 15 @ 9:27 AM ET
Attributes are graded on a scale using the terms poor (lowest), below average, average, above average, high end, and elite (highest). Average is meant as a compliment, not as a criticism. Saying an attribute is average means it projects as NHL average. Shots are only graded if they are notably good or poor.
- TheSabresTaco



That makes sense ☝️
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:27 AM ET
I don't know about all that. But the consensus is that his development was ruined when tallider left
- Michael Pachla


Tyler Myers is not a good defensman.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 15 @ 9:27 AM ET
http://moranalytics.com/mike-harrington/
Not bad, a long listen, and some stuff on here some on this board aren't gonna want to hear about the injury to Jack and what possibly could happen. Like I have been saying people need to open there eyes to what could happen if Eichel is traded.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 15 @ 9:29 AM ET
Looks like a my report card from back in the day :

"D,", " 2C's" and a "B"

Is the skating in comparison to his size or other players?

Ouch

- Boss34


A lot of times you'll hear that Power "skates well for a big man." Make of that what you will
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 15 @ 9:29 AM ET
Slow to act? He can't even talk to all of the people he wants to talk to yet.
- Slump Buster



Since the beginning of his tenure, he has been slow to make any moves. It seems that he is just an observer and reporter for Terry and Kim, every 90 days he reports back and gives his input but they have the final say.

Slow to act:

- in firing a terrible coach (burned a few bridges delaying that move)
- slow to communicate with reporters during one of the worst losing streaks in organizational history
- slow to make trades (specifically Hall)
- slow to find management help
- slow this entire offseason as he has done nothing but learn while other organizations have defined directions and made moves
- slow to provide information regarding a serious injury with the franchise player, creating a bigger wedge vs a bridge to open discussion
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 15 @ 9:29 AM ET
Attributes are graded on a scale using the terms poor (lowest), below average, average, above average, high end, and elite (highest). Average is meant as a compliment, not as a criticism. Saying an attribute is average means it projects as NHL average. Shots are only graded if they are notably good or poor.
- TheSabresTaco

2. Dylan Guenther
Skating: Average
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Above-average
Shot: Above-average

3. Eklund
Skating: High-end
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Above-average
Compete: Above-average
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:29 AM ET
http://moranalytics.com/mike-harrington/
Not bad, a long listen, and some stuff on here some on this board aren't gonna want to hear about the injury to Jack and what possibly could happen. Like I have been saying people need to open there eyes to what could happen if Eichel is traded.

- Buff36


For those of us who don't have a lot of time for Hike Marrington?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 15 @ 9:30 AM ET
Myers problem was that he was never the same D after his first year or two. I don't recall anyone claiming he wasn't physical enough. I do recall him becoming a train wreck in his own zone. Some say it was Tallinder leaving, others say that Lindy tried to get him to think too much rather than relying on his instincts.
- Slump Buster


I remember it very well.

Myers was one of my favorite Sabres players. Last jersey i bought.

I argued with people for many months about this.

People wanted him to add size and hit and fight.

The Purse carrying jokes pretty much originated with Myers.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 15 @ 9:30 AM ET
2. Dylan Guenther
Skating: Average
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Above-average
Shot: Above-average

3. Eklund
Skating: High-end
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Above-average
Compete: Above-average

- Michael Pachla

Take either one of these guys. Love me some Eklund though.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:30 AM ET
2. Dylan Guenther
Skating: Average
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Above-average
Shot: Above-average

3. Eklund
Skating: High-end
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Above-average
Compete: Above-average

- Michael Pachla


The descriptions of the players are much more informative than the ranking of assets.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 15 @ 9:32 AM ET
Attributes are graded on a scale using the terms poor (lowest), below average, average, above average, high end, and elite (highest). Average is meant as a compliment, not as a criticism. Saying an attribute is average means it projects as NHL average. Shots are only graded if they are notably good or poor.
- TheSabresTaco


This doesn't scream 1st overall pick to me. Even using a curve for this draft class
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 15 @ 9:33 AM ET
Since the beginning of his tenure, he has been slow to make any moves. It seems that he is just an observer and reporter for Terry and Kim, every 90 days he reports back and gives his input but they have the final say.

Slow to act:

- in firing a terrible coach (burned a few bridges delaying that move)
- slow to communicate with reporters during one of the worst losing streaks in organizational history
- slow to make trades (specifically Hall)
- slow to find management help
- slow this entire offseason as he has done nothing but learn while other organizations have defined directions and made moves
- slow to provide information regarding a serious injury with the franchise player, creating a bigger wedge vs a bridge to open discussion

- washedup20


He is not doing his job if he doesnt interview at least 100 coaches. Apparently other GMs are idiots for identifying coaches right away and getting their direction set and are starting their off-season's.

Its not like they had months to identify top candidates and go after one.

I assume they are going to hire a Barry Trotz clone from the Islanders and defense defense defense.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 15 @ 9:34 AM ET
Lazy no. He reminds me of Erik Johnson, when Johnson was still playing in college
- Mentalorgasm5


I think people forgot how great johnson was then that injury destroyed his Career and became half the person who is supposed to be..

Just saying
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 15 @ 9:35 AM ET
Take either one of these guys. Love me some Eklund though.
- Buff36

From the limited exposure I've had to his tape, am surprised he considers Eklunds shot unworthy of a grade. I think it's at least high-end
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 15 @ 9:35 AM ET
Power at 18 is a better prospect than Pilut at 22.
- TheSabresTaco


Well, sure. My point is that it is another reminder that if this is considered to be his the first thing that people say about him then he probably does have a low ceiling when compared to other 1OAs. I am sure he will be a fine D. I am glad that I don't have to make the pick.
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