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MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:45 PM ET
It’s really nice to see that after Denmark witnessed a teammate collapse on the field and have to be brought back to life with CPR, the remaining teammates have no problem pretending to drop dead to draw free kicks.

This sport is an embarrassment.

- Atomic Wedgie


Very true!
Congrats to theMussel for the win vs the dirty danes
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:48 PM ET
I don’t know how that was a penalty.

I was watching the game when Eriksen went down. That was, personally, the worst thing I’ve seen in a sporting event and I was watching when Peverley collapsed. I didn’t see Travis Roy, the Bertuzzi incident and idk if there is anything else that even comes close.

I’m not a doctor, but they only defib you when you’re gone, no? I know they do to get peoples’ heart back in rhythm if you have afib, but totally different scenario, obviously.

I thought he died and I continued to believe so until I saw that picture of him conscious and placing his hand on his head. I was most certainly hoping for a different outcome, but holy poop. The way the medics were working on him, the reaction of the teammates, everything…you really just expected the worst. What great news to hear he’s at least ok at the moment. I had know words for what I saw.

- RickJames77


Considering everything, he might have been Lucky this problem happened during a match with several medics closeby, AED and ambulance near as well.
If it happens to him at home, might have been even a worse outcome
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 12 @ 3:49 PM ET
Considering everything, he might have been Lucky this problem happened during a match with several medics closeby, AED and ambulance near as well.
If it happens to him at home, might have been even a worse outcome

- MaximusAurelius

I said the same thing to people I was watching with. They said the hospital was 5 minutes from the stadium, which was good as well.

You obviously wish it never had to happen at all, but if anyone had the choice I’m guessing we’d all rather be in the vicinity of experienced medical professionals. It felt like a (frank)ed up thought when I thought it though. It’s just trying to rationalize some thing in some way that on its surface seems irrational - a 29 year old professional athlete going down like that.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 12 @ 3:58 PM ET

- AdamFrench

Accurate.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 12 @ 3:59 PM ET
I don’t know how that was a penalty.

I was watching the game when Eriksen went down. That was, personally, the worst thing I’ve seen in a sporting event and I was watching when Peverley collapsed. I didn’t see Travis Roy, the Bertuzzi incident and idk if there is anything else that even comes close.

I’m not a doctor, but they only defib you when you’re gone, no? I know they do to get peoples’ heart back in rhythm if you have afib, but totally different scenario, obviously.

I thought he died and I continued to believe so until I saw that picture of him conscious and placing his hand on his head. I was most certainly hoping for a different outcome, but holy poop. The way the medics were working on him, the reaction of the teammates, everything…you really just expected the worst. What great news to hear he’s at least ok at the moment. I had know words for what I saw.

- RickJames77

So keep in mind I am not a doctor, but I do have a certain amount of experience as I once performed CPR on a guy at an arena for about 12 minutes until paramedics arrived and brought him back to life, and later served on a national board for improving CPR outcomes:

Sometimes a heart stops dead.

Sometimes a heart goes into a weird mode where it’s misfiring. CPR has about a 10% chance of getting it back into regular rhythm, but it does keep the brain alive until you can get an AED machine going.

AED increases chances to about 50%.

So forgive me for the following:

If you play a sport, or if your child plays a sport, you really need to take CPR/AED training.

After I performed CPR on a guy, and then started drinking like a fish for the next 8 hours (no joke: PTSD), a friend came up to me and said something I will never forget:

“The most terrifying thing was I knew that if somebody didn’t do something, that guy would die. And I didn’t know what to do.”

Imagine “that guy” was your friend, wife, child.

Please take the course.

Edit: AED machines are ridiculously easy. They literally read out the instructions for you. But you need the training, because you need the confidence to perform under a stressful situation.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 12 @ 4:03 PM ET
I said the same thing to people I was watching with. They said the hospital was 5 minutes from the stadium, which was good as well.

You obviously wish it never had to happen at all, but if anyone had the choice I’m guessing we’d all rather be in the vicinity of experienced medical professionals. It felt like a (frank)ed up thought when I thought it though. It’s just trying to rationalize some thing in some way that on its surface seems irrational - a 29 year old professional athlete going down like that.

- RickJames77

And for the record, the example you are looking for is Clint Malarchuk.

Edit: this is in response to your earlier post about most horrific thing in hockey.

Obviously Bill Masterson is worse, but before my time.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 12 @ 4:04 PM ET
Considering everything, he might have been Lucky this problem happened during a match with several medics closeby, AED and ambulance near as well.
If it happens to him at home, might have been even a worse outcome

- MaximusAurelius

Not “might have.”

Definitely.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 12 @ 4:04 PM ET
So keep in mind I am not a doctor, but I do have a certain amount of experience as I once performed CPR on a guy at an arena for about 12 minutes until paramedics arrived and brought him back to life, and later served on a national board for improving CPR outcomes:

Sometimes a heart stops dead.

Sometimes a heart goes into a weird mode where it’s misfiring. CPR has about a 10% chance of getting it back into regular rhythm, but it does keep the brain alive until you can get an AED machine going.

AED increases chances to about 50%.

So forgive me for the following:

If you play a sport, or if your child plays a sport, you really need to take CPR/AED training.

After I performed CPR on a guy, and then started drinking like a fish for the next 8 hours (no joke: PTSD), a friend came up to me and said something I will never forget:

“The most terrifying thing was I knew that if somebody didn’t do something, that guy would die. And I didn’t know what to do.”

Imagine “that guy” was your friend, wife, child.

Please take the course.

Edit: AED machines are ridiculously easy. They literally read out the instructions for you. But you need the training, because you need the confidence to perform under a stressful situation.

- Atomic Wedgie
Jesus Christ, wedge. Glad you were there to step in and save a life

That was another topic broached. That they should teach that in high school or college as a mandatory class.

It actually did happen to a loved one in my house and my sister performed CPR and I still haven’t done it. I should and hopefully I will.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 12 @ 4:04 PM ET
Sorry, its laughable that the leafs would be considered "legit cup contenders" by anyone whos not a leafs fan.

They simply are not
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 12 @ 4:07 PM ET
It’s really nice to see that after Denmark witnessed a teammate collapse on the field and have to be brought back to life with CPR, the remaining teammates have no problem pretending to drop dead to draw free kicks.

This sport is an embarrassment.

- Atomic Wedgie

Are you really surprised by this?

The softest athletes of any sport. No dignity or self respect
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 12 @ 4:07 PM ET
So keep in mind I am not a doctor, but I do have a certain amount of experience as I once performed CPR on a guy at an arena for about 12 minutes until paramedics arrived and brought him back to life, and later served on a national board for improving CPR outcomes:

Sometimes a heart stops dead.

Sometimes a heart goes into a weird mode where it’s misfiring. CPR has about a 10% chance of getting it back into regular rhythm, but it does keep the brain alive until you can get an AED machine going.

AED increases chances to about 50%.

So forgive me for the following:

If you play a sport, or if your child plays a sport, you really need to take CPR/AED training.

After I performed CPR on a guy, and then started drinking like a fish for the next 8 hours (no joke: PTSD), a friend came up to me and said something I will never forget:

“The most terrifying thing was I knew that if somebody didn’t do something, that guy would die. And I didn’t know what to do.”

Imagine “that guy” was your friend, wife, child.

Please take the course.

Edit: AED machines are ridiculously easy. They literally read out the instructions for you. But you need the training, because you need the confidence to perform under a stressful situation.

- Atomic Wedgie

Beautifully stated, Wedgie.

I took the course a couple of years ago but want to keep refreshing as I know the course has begun to fade.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 12 @ 4:09 PM ET
Sorry, its laughable that the leafs would be considered "legit cup contenders" by anyone whos not a leafs fan.

They simply are not

- Fakepartofme

Don’t worry. The Leafs defence is great. We just need to focus cap space on fixing our offence now and we’ll be fine next season.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 12 @ 4:10 PM ET
I don’t know how that was a penalty.

I was watching the game when Eriksen went down. That was, personally, the worst thing I’ve seen in a sporting event and I was watching when Peverley collapsed. I didn’t see Travis Roy, the Bertuzzi incident and idk if there is anything else that even comes close.

I’m not a doctor, but they only defib you when you’re gone, no? I know they do to get peoples’ heart back in rhythm if you have afib, but totally different scenario, obviously.

I thought he died and I continued to believe so until I saw that picture of him conscious and placing his hand on his head. I was most certainly hoping for a different outcome, but holy poop. The way the medics were working on him, the reaction of the teammates, everything…you really just expected the worst. What great news to hear he’s at least ok at the moment. I had know words for what I saw.

- RickJames77

Yup, you saw a dead man on the field. You only administer cpr if the heart isnt beating.
Which means youre dead.
Glad hes doing well.
Gonna take a whilefor those cracked or broken ribs to heal
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 12 @ 4:10 PM ET
Reilly played up to expectations?! Really?!?! Sandman stole his PP spot he was so inept out there. Worst he has played and really was just bad.

They need to move some salary and balance out this team and find some heart and determination.

- Roadrunner75


Rielly was one of the best three of four Leafs playing in that series unless your mind was made up beforehand or you’re trying to make a point now.

I was not happy with his play going into the playoffs but he was good. Everyone on the PP sucked
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 12 @ 4:12 PM ET
Beautifully stated, Wedgie.

I took the course a couple of years ago but want to keep refreshing as I know the course has begun to fade.

- mjones242

Ha ha ha ha ha - it’s offered through my work, but it’s a bit of a pain in the ass to sign up every two years.

So whenever I get the email “Do you really need to do this on (this date)?”

I always get a franking perverse pleasure when I write the reply email.

I have never never been denied the day off for training.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 12 @ 4:13 PM ET
So keep in mind I am not a doctor, but I do have a certain amount of experience as I once performed CPR on a guy at an arena for about 12 minutes until paramedics arrived and brought him back to life, and later served on a national board for improving CPR outcomes:

Sometimes a heart stops dead.

Sometimes a heart goes into a weird mode where it’s misfiring. CPR has about a 10% chance of getting it back into regular rhythm, but it does keep the brain alive until you can get an AED machine going.

AED increases chances to about 50%.

So forgive me for the following:

If you play a sport, or if your child plays a sport, you really need to take CPR/AED training.

After I performed CPR on a guy, and then started drinking like a fish for the next 8 hours (no joke: PTSD), a friend came up to me and said something I will never forget:

“The most terrifying thing was I knew that if somebody didn’t do something, that guy would die. And I didn’t know what to do.”

Imagine “that guy” was your friend, wife, child.

Please take the course.

Edit: AED machines are ridiculously easy. They literally read out the instructions for you. But you need the training, because you need the confidence to perform under a stressful situation.

- Atomic Wedgie

Ive been first aid and aed trained for years.
Its come in handy several times.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 12 @ 4:18 PM ET
Ive been first aid and aed trained for years.
Its come in handy several times.

- Fakepartofme

I use the first aid training all the time.

OK, not all the time, but once a year.

As per my post above, if poop happens, I don’t want to be too scared to act.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 12 @ 4:23 PM ET
I use the first aid training all the time.

OK, not all the time, but once a year.

As per my post above, if poop happens, I don’t want to be too scared to act.

- Atomic Wedgie


That’s pretty cool to know you can keep it together in those situations and not fire the puck over the boards when it matters. Good work
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 12 @ 4:25 PM ET
That’s pretty cool to know you can keep it together in those situations and not fire the puck over the boards when it matters. Good work
- Canada Cup

Wedgie>>>Marner

True Wedgie Story
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 12 @ 4:35 PM ET
Wedgie>>>Marner

True Wedgie Story

- Atomic Wedgie


Taser in one hand and an AED in the other
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 12 @ 4:45 PM ET
12 pm: Wedgie comes back from 2.5 hours of running errands.

Figured I have earned a break. Nope.

Mrs. Wedgie demands I clean out the empties from the backyard bar and return them before she takes the car to the garden centre to get flowers for her new flower boxes.

I return 107 crushed aluminum cans. Buy beer.

2 pm: Mrs. Wedgie goes to garden centre.

Five minutes ago: “garden centre says best thing to line bottom of flower boxes is crushed beer cans - you didn’t return them, did you?”

FML

True Wedgie Story
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 12 @ 4:49 PM ET
Rielly was one of the best three of four Leafs playing in that series unless your mind was made up beforehand or you’re trying to make a point now.

I was not happy with his play going into the playoffs but he was good. Everyone on the PP sucked

- Canada Cup


Agree that Rielly was much better and had to be once Muzzin was eliminated from the series. They were still way too soft, disagree with Fake that the Leafs are not contenders. Montreal have no business being in the playoffs, second season in a row they finished with less points than teams that did not get into the playoffs. Imagine a baseball playoff where the strike zone is different than the regular season (say it has to be at least 6 inches off the plate), or it is legal to drop kick the second baseman in the head before sliding into second.

Its the NHL playoffs so a cross-check in the face is not a penalty but a tap in the pants or shoulders if you retaliate as Ehlers did is an automatic penalty even if Gallagher just smashed your face into the glass and there was no call.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 12 @ 4:49 PM ET
Ha ha ha ha ha - it’s offered through my work, but it’s a bit of a pain in the ass to sign up every two years.

So whenever I get the email “Do you really need to do this on (this date)?”

I always get a franking perverse pleasure when I write the reply email.

I have never never been denied the day off for training.

- Atomic Wedgie

Yup, I took it when offered at work. Looking forward to taking it again when I convince my boss that my skills have surely atrophied.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 12 @ 4:50 PM ET
12 pm: Wedgie comes back from 2.5 hours of running errands.

Figured I have earned a break. Nope.

Mrs. Wedgie demands I clean out the empties from the backyard bar and return them before she takes the car to the garden centre to get flowers for her new flower boxes.

I return 107 crushed aluminum cans. Buy beer.

2 pm: Mrs. Wedgie goes to garden centre.

Five minutes ago: “garden centre says best thing to line bottom of flower boxes is crushed beer cans - you didn’t return them, did you?”

FML

True Wedgie Story

- Atomic Wedgie

winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 12 @ 4:53 PM ET
Taser in one hand and an AED in the other
- Canada Cup


I like the idea of a taser as a coaching tool. Taser Marner in the balls every time he avoids contact. He'll either figure it out or become a eunuch
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