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neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 8 @ 7:57 PM ET
If he trades a 1st for dumba or cernak, that would be something people would be upset about, and it would be justified. Neither of those players are worth a 1st round pick.
- Codes1087

This is the least accurate thing youve said in a long time
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 8 @ 8:00 PM ET
If he trades a 1st for dumba or cernak, that would be something people would be upset about, and it would be justified. Neither of those players are worth a 1st round pick.
- Codes1087

What about:
To Van:
Dumba

To Min:
Tor 2021 1st
B prospect

To CBJ
9OA
LE
Roussell
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 8 @ 8:01 PM ET
This is the least accurate thing youve said in a long time
- neem55


Draft and develop. Don't try and expedite this. When we get good and competitive, trade 1sts to complete a roster for a cup run.

Look at tampa, Washington, Islanders, Boston. They were all playoff teams when they traded 1st round picks for coleman, goodrow, mantha, pageau, palmeiri, and hall (albeit two 2nds).

Draft and develop, do it right, then make those trades when we just need to round out the roster for a run. Expediting this is the reason we are out of the playoffs in year 8. We are close, the core is there, the roster is getting better, don't mortgage our future just to get this team to make the playoffs.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 8 @ 8:02 PM ET
People using a bunch of words incorrectly.

Why, technically, shouldn't they have a team there?

- NewYorkNuck


All businesses strives for contraction, it’s Business 101 Yorksey. I know you’re an art guy and all, but this is pretty simple business man stuff. Just stay in your lane and you’ll be ok.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 8 @ 8:04 PM ET
What about:
To Van:
Dumba

To Min:
Tor 2021 1st
B prospect

To CBJ
9OA
LE
Roussell

- Retinalz


Sorry, why is CBJ giving up anything in this scenario? They take on two horrible contracts and move up a few spots in the draft?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 8 @ 8:05 PM ET
Draft and develop. Don't try and expedite this. When we get good and competitive, trade 1sts to complete a roster for a cup run.

Look at tampa, Washington, Islanders, Boston. They were all playoff teams when they traded 1st round picks for coleman, goodrow, mantha, pageau, palmeiri, and hall (albeit two 2nds).

Draft and develop, do it right, then make those trades when we just need to round out the roster for a run. Expediting this is the reason we are out of the playoffs in year 8. We are close, the core is there, the roster is getting better, don't mortgage our future just to get this team to make the playoffs.

- Codes1087

I completely agree, just didnt agree on that valuation of Dumba.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 8 @ 8:07 PM ET
What about:
To Van:
Dumba

To Min:
Tor 2021 1st
B prospect

To CBJ
9OA
LE
Roussell

- Retinalz


Toronto doesn't haven't a 2021 first I dont think.
And I still wouldn't so it. Le and roussel will be gone next year, wait one more year to go all in when some of the pylons are gone. We also didn't have a 1st or 2nd rounder last year, we can't continue to trade high picks just to cross the playoff line, which I'm not convinced dumba would even do if we acquired him.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 8 @ 8:08 PM ET
I completely agree, just didnt agree on that valuation of Dumba.
- neem55


Hes maybe worth a 1st to some teams, he's just not worth it for me and the canucks, right now with the state the team is in.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 8 @ 8:09 PM ET
Toronto doesn't haven't a 2021 first I dont think.
And I still wouldn't so it. Le and roussel will be gone next year, wait one more year to go all in when some of the pylons are gone. We also didn't have a 1st or 2nd rounder last year, we can't continue to trade high picks just to cross the playoff line, which I'm not convinced dumba would even do if we acquired him.

- Codes1087


The Tor pick is owned by Columbus. Also, Vancouver doesn’t have an B prospects left, unless you are throwing in Podkolzin…
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jun 8 @ 8:11 PM ET


I got a kick out of yesterday's comments about Cassidy complaining, but nary a word about Trott complaining about Bergeron being to good on the faceoffs, he is cheating.
The Canuck fans are unreal.

- Reubenkincade

It has been a good and feisty series so far. I like the gamesmanship. It just adds to the emotion between the teams. The best part, 3-2 Isles.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 8 @ 8:12 PM ET
Hes maybe worth a 1st to some teams, he's just not worth it for me and the canucks, right now with the state the team is in.
- Codes1087

I dont hate the idea myself, but i do agree drafting is key
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 8 @ 8:16 PM ET
I dont hate the idea myself, but i do agree drafting is key
- neem55


Say rathbone podkolzin juolevi hoglander and lockwood all make the team next year.

Very very quickly, the cupboard starts to look thin as these prospects start to make their first impacts on the team. (Like vintsy said above)

I just don't think the canucks can afford to mortgage the future after just placing 24th overall in the league with much of the team coming back next year.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 8 @ 8:18 PM ET
Which player means more to their team?

Pettersson to Vancouver
Kucherov to Tampa
Price to Canadiens

- Codes1087

Bergeron to Boston
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 8 @ 8:20 PM ET
Bergeron to Boston
- Nighthawk

Correct
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 8 @ 8:20 PM ET
When the bad contracts expire, this team has the capability of turning things around, and quickly. Beagle, sutter, LE, roussel all gone will help this club in more ways than just cap relief.
- Codes1087

👍
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 8 @ 8:23 PM ET
Bergeron to Boston
- Nighthawk


I chose those 3 players for a reason. They all missed a significant portion of their seasons.

If I wanted to bring up the best, I'd bring up mcdavid, kucherov and matthews lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 8 @ 8:24 PM ET
I hope Vegas win this year but think it is TBL to lose. If Vegas win it this year they will tie the Oilers for quickest team to win since expansion of a 6 team league.
- VANTEL

Interesting but the Oil were not an expansion team.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jun 8 @ 8:25 PM ET
I chose those 3 players for a reason. They all missed a significant portion of their seasons.

If I wanted to bring up the best, I'd bring up mcdavid, kucherov and matthews lol

- Codes1087


Price to Canadiens
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 8 @ 8:32 PM ET
This. Even if he trades a 1st and gets a guy like Cernak or Dumba that’s hardly something to be down about
- Nucker101

I’m 300% down w trading our first: not a great draft and I want to make the playoffs.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 8 @ 8:33 PM ET
He’s tied his own hands. Next offseason could be dangerous.
- CubanBuffet

For sure. Next off season he has a scary amount of cap space. Don’t worry the Sedins will curb his spending
bloatedhefty
Location: Fat Like a Goalie
Joined: 04.19.2017

Jun 8 @ 8:34 PM ET
What the (frank) are you whiners concerned about? He literally has $25,000 in cap space? I mean I guess he could trade our next 5 first round picks for cap space but that seems unlikely
- CanuckDon


Settle down Don. All you have to worry about is finding that perfect yachting outfit for your trip to Croatia.

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 8 @ 8:35 PM ET
Settle down Don. All you have to worry about is finding that perfect yachting outfit for your trip to Croatia.


- bloatedhefty

All I need is a speedo and tanning grease
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 8 @ 8:35 PM ET
For sure. Next off season he has a scary amount of cap space. Don’t worry the Sedins will curb his spending
- CanuckDon


I think you over estimate. There could be space, we’ll see…
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 8 @ 8:36 PM ET
All I need is a speedo and tanning grease
- CanuckDon

Interesting.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 8 @ 8:40 PM ET
Price to Canadiens
- Load Management


My point was. So much was made yesterday about pettersson missing the amount of games he did being a main contributor to the way the season went. Kucherov and price missed more games than petey did. Many teams have their best players go down for significant periods of time and still make it, it's what separates the good teams from the bad teams.

People think I'm anti benning, I'm not. I dissect each trade, each signing, each transaction separately and not as a whole. What am I is anti-excuse.
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