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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 9 @ 6:00 PM ET
He's doing an excellent job.
- Marwood

"what do you want for lunch Jim"
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 9 @ 6:01 PM ET
AbbyFan on Twitter pointing out the Portland connection between Green Shaw and pointing out Seth Jones connection to Portland and Shaw.
- VANTEL

Vancouver doesn't have a Werenski to carry Jones on a top pairing FFS.

Have they never figured this poop out from Linden Vey and Sven Baertschi?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 9 @ 6:03 PM ET
SN 650 going to have Shaw on at 3.30
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 9 @ 6:03 PM ET
What value do you think Schmidt has? He's a top 4 defender, sure, with a contract about a mil too much.

Reinhart is a 25 year old 1st line player. Don't think you're getting him top a top 4 defender plus some bubble players. That doesn't even take into account the young defender from them (don't know anything about him)

- NewYorkNuck

Sam is a good 2nd line guy who can play 1st line. His production the last 5 season shows as much. 62 practice is his best production, this year was on a 60pt pace. Not exactly great top line production.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 9 @ 6:06 PM ET
Vancouver doesn't have a Werenski to carry Jones on a top pairing FFS.

Have they never figured this poop out from Linden Vey and Sven Baertschi?

- manvanfan

Jones is a top pairing guy away from Werenski. Could be a great partner for OJ or Rathbone to round out top 4 with Ham and Huggy.
We just can't afford it atm, imo.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 9 @ 6:08 PM ET
Jones is a top pairing guy away from Werenski. Could be a great partner for OJ or Rathbone to round out top 4 with Ham and Huggy.
We just can't afford it atm, imo.

- Retinalz


5.4 mil
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jun 9 @ 6:11 PM ET
Personally, I think today's news is a positive step.
- Reubenkincade


Starting post season right with more to come.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 9 @ 6:16 PM ET
Jones is a top pairing guy away from Werenski. Could be a great partner for OJ or Rathbone to round out top 4 with Ham and Huggy.
We just can't afford it atm, imo.

- Retinalz

This is PK Subban all over again.

I can't see rover playing with rover making a good pair. It's pretty much Myers and Hughes playing together vs lower competition and get annihilated.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 9 @ 6:16 PM ET
Sam is a good 2nd line guy who can play 1st line. His production the last 5 season shows as much. 62 practice is his best production, this year was on a 60pt pace. Not exactly great top line production.
- Retinalz


60 pt pace on a bad offensive team. His 40 points this season has him 65th overall in the NHL, so that's lower end top line.

Based on this article (only one I could find, from 6 years ago), 60 points would put him as a top line player: https://www.habseyesonthe...e-nhl-production-analysis
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 9 @ 6:18 PM ET
60 pt pace on a bad offensive team. His 40 points this season has him 65th overall in the NHL, so that's lower end top line.

Based on this article (only one I could find, from 6 years ago), 60 points would put him as a top line player: https://www.habseyesonthe...e-nhl-production-analysis

- NewYorkNuck

I did this 3 years ago. Guys in here wanted 3rd liners to be 50 plus in points.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jun 9 @ 6:18 PM ET
Jones is a top pairing guy away from Werenski. Could be a great partner for OJ or Rathbone to round out top 4 with Ham and Huggy.
We just can't afford it atm, imo.

- Retinalz


If deal revolving around Nate + can be done then go for it. CBJ needs top players locked in. But don't add BB or JTM that some say is okay.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 9 @ 6:19 PM ET
5.4 mil
- VANTEL

I meant assets to acquire.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 9 @ 6:21 PM ET
60 pt pace on a bad offensive team. His 40 points this season has him 65th overall in the NHL, so that's lower end top line.

Based on this article (only one I could find, from 6 years ago), 60 points would put him as a top line player: https://www.habseyesonthe...e-nhl-production-analysis

- NewYorkNuck


They were bad but Eichel Hall Skinner Olofsson should not be a bad offensive team
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 9 @ 6:24 PM ET
I meant assets to acquire.
- Retinalz


I agree Canucks should not waste assets . I do like looking at all scenarios.


Talking to Columbus fans they say the starting conversations would need a center and Miller could start the conversation.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 9 @ 6:24 PM ET
The LarschCast Ice hockey stick and puckAmerican footballRadio
@larschcast
Brad Shaw is known as the "D-man Whisperer".

Ian Clark is well-known as the "Goalie Guru".

Today's a great day in #Canucks nation.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 9 @ 6:26 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Fan2A...02743153652768768/photo/1

That's just
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 9 @ 6:30 PM ET
I did this 3 years ago. Guys in here wanted 3rd liners to be 50 plus in points.
- manvanfan

To me 65+ is 1st if they put up 30ish goals, otherwise second line.
45-64 is 2nd line with lower point totals being your 20g guys
30-44 is 3rd line
And 4th should be 10+
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 9 @ 6:36 PM ET
I agree Canucks should not waste assets . I do like looking at all scenarios.


Talking to Columbus fans they say the starting conversations would need a center and Miller could start the conversation.

- VANTEL

Something around

Miller + Schmidt for Bjorkstrand and Jones extended with other pieces could work.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 9 @ 6:45 PM ET
Go suck nucker`s dick
- A_SteamingLombardi



Awwww...
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 9 @ 6:49 PM ET
SN 650 going to have Shaw on at 3.30
- VANTEL

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 9 @ 6:54 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Fan2Abby/status/1402743153652768768/photo/1

That's just

- manvanfan

lol wow
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 9 @ 6:55 PM ET
To me 65+ is 1st if they put up 30ish goals, otherwise second line.
45-64 is 2nd line with lower point totals being your 20g guys
30-44 is 3rd line
And 4th should be 10+

- Retinalz


Where are you getting these numbers from? Is that for an ideal team, or league wide? Because if you're expecting every first line player to put up 65 points, that'd make for 93 players in the league above 65 points..

in 2019-20 there were 23 forwards 65 points and above.
in 2018-19 there were 59 (Sam Reinhart being one of them!)
in 2017-18 there were 47 forwards.

So, where are you getting your numbers from?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 9 @ 6:59 PM ET
Where are you getting these numbers from? Is that for an ideal team, or league wide? Because if you're expecting every first line player to put up 65 points, that'd make for 93 players in the league above 65 points..

in 2019-20 there were 23 forwards 65 points and above.
in 2018-19 there were 59 (Sam Reinhart being one of them!)
in 2017-18 there were 47 forwards.

So, where are you getting your numbers from?

- NewYorkNuck


Quoting myself, but add to that if you think 2nd line players need to score above a 45 point pace, that'd be 186 players in the league doing that...

in 2019-20 there were 88 forwards
in 2018-19 there were 121 fowards
in 2017-18 there were 127 forwards
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 9 @ 7:07 PM ET
Personally, I think today's news is a positive step.
- Reubenkincade


Agreed.

I;m with most on here.
Glad some new blood is being added to the coaching ranks, and pleased that coach Clark is locked in for Demko's contract.

I wonder if Shaw took the gig thinking ahead to potentially becoming the heir apparent to the HC role?

I noticed that Ray Shero is joining Minny as an advisor to GM Billy Guerin.
I wish we could add someone with that pedigree to help GMJB.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 9 @ 7:12 PM ET
Oilers signed Devon Shore 2 x 850 K

Dhaliwal said on the show the speculation of Hughes and Petey is

Hiughes 6+ mil x 5 yrs
Petey 7+ mil x 3 years
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