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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 9 @ 1:32 PM ET
Read your situation and pick your spots better. Pro scouting needs to be a focus moving forward.

Paying more because you have to is situational.

- 1970vintage


Ok pro scouting is an issue but as far as we know it is the same pro scouting for next year so that is even more of a reason not to rely on Free Agency.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 9 @ 1:35 PM ET
Ok pro scouting is an issue but as far as we know it is the same pro scouting for next year so that is even more of a reason not to rely on Free Agency.
- VANTEL


Which many people – mainly the Benning naysayers – don't want him to dive in. That is why when he says he's going to be aggressive in FA, we all moan about it.

If they're signing low-cost 1 year deals, that's not a big issue: it's not going to impact their ability to sign better players (hopefully under new management) next year, when the cap actually opens up.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 9 @ 1:40 PM ET
Which many people – mainly the Benning naysayers – don't want him to dive in. That is why when he says he's going to be aggressive in FA, we all moan about it.

If they're signing low-cost 1 year deals, that's not a big issue: it's not going to impact their ability to sign better players (hopefully under new management) next year, when the cap actually opens up.

- NewYorkNuck


This.

I also don't know how you are aggressive in free agency with your two stars still needing contracts and 15 mill to work with.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 9 @ 1:45 PM ET
Which many people – mainly the Benning naysayers – don't want him to dive in. That is why when he says he's going to be aggressive in FA, we all moan about it.

If they're signing low-cost 1 year deals, that's not a big issue: it's not going to impact their ability to sign better players (hopefully under new management) next year, when the cap actually opens up.

- NewYorkNuck


I am certainly not defending Benning but I look at what Treliving did this year with spending in Free Agency and they barely beat out the Canucks.

I know some will say look at the Habs . Habs had 24 wins this year and 32 losses and right now are benefitting by playing in a really crappy division . Leafs losing in the first round is as predictable as Xmas happening on Dec 25 th. We will find out next year when their division is back to normal how they are.

I don't think you can build a cup winner in Free Agency . I might be wrong so we will soon see. You can add a player like Hossa but I don't think you can build your team from mostly FAs .



SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Jun 9 @ 1:46 PM ET
Yes I missed Rassmus Andersson, thought he was a first rounder.
- Pacificgem

that was our 2nd rounder.....
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 9 @ 1:47 PM ET
This.

I also don't know how you are aggressive in free agency with your two stars still needing contracts and 15 mill to work with.

- Codes1087

Maybe he is going to be aggressive in getting good free agents for cheap.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 9 @ 1:49 PM ET
Maybe he is going to be aggressive in getting good free agents for cheap.
- manvanfan


his history in this doesn't give me a ton of faith.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 9 @ 1:51 PM ET
This.

I also don't know how you are aggressive in free agency with your two stars still needing contracts and 15 mill to work with.

- Codes1087


Let's see if Canucks spend more in signings than 15 mil including Hughes and Pettersson. I will predict they spend closer to 24- 25 mil.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 9 @ 1:52 PM ET
Ok pro scouting is an issue but as far as we know it is the same pro scouting for next year so that is even more of a reason not to rely on Free Agency.
- VANTEL


I agree. BUT, I think if they set their plan better and stick to it they could still use free agency to help improve. If they simply hired you as a consultant to tell them “that is a bad decision” they could have saved millions.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 9 @ 1:54 PM ET
Miller for Konecny and P.Myers


Get younger, Konecny is Bo’s cousin and can score and isn’t afraid to mix it up either. Myers could be a decent #4 dman here and we get another Myers

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 9 @ 1:59 PM ET
Miller for Konecny and P.Myers


Get younger, Konecny is Bo’s cousin and can score and isn’t afraid to mix it up either. Myers could be a decent #4 dman here and we get another Myers

- Nucker101



Not bad...
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 9 @ 2:01 PM ET


Not bad...

- LordHumungous


You sure like kissing his butt. Lol
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 9 @ 2:01 PM ET
I agree. BUT, I think if they set their plan better and stick to it they could still use free agency to help improve. If they simply hired you as a consultant to tell them “that is a bad decision” they could have saved millions.
- 1970vintage


Bad decisions is not new to this franchise. Ballard Booth Messier

I would try not to go into free agency too deep and I also do like some free agents so there is always the temptation.






NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 9 @ 2:01 PM ET
You sure like kissing his butt. Lol
- Reubenkincade


Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 9 @ 2:04 PM ET
Bad decisions is not new to this franchise. Ballard Booth Messier

I would try not to go into free agency too deep and I also do like some free agents so there is always the temptation.

- VANTEL


They will have to dip into free agency a bit to get a couple defensemen. Hopefully they look at some guys like Hakanpaa,who should be under 2 million.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 9 @ 2:11 PM ET
They will have to dip into free agency a bit to get a couple defensemen. Hopefully they look at some guys like Hakanpaa,who should be under 2 million.
- Reubenkincade

Nah, Woo & Chatfield can step in. Big year for the prospects.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 9 @ 2:11 PM ET
They will have to dip into free agency a bit to get a couple defensemen. Hopefully they look at some guys like Hakanpaa,who should be under 2 million.
- Reubenkincade


They don't really need to do anything much TBH

They could go with Schmidt OJ Rathbone Myers Hughes Chatfield.

It is not a popular choice but they could. I think they will be more active in trades than FA . Just my opinion.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 9 @ 2:14 PM ET
You sure like kissing his butt. Lol
- Reubenkincade

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 9 @ 2:14 PM ET
They will have to dip into free agency a bit to get a couple defensemen. Hopefully they look at some guys like Hakanpaa,who should be under 2 million.
- Reubenkincade


Hes on of those ones I said we should target. I like gustaffson from Montreal as well.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 9 @ 2:14 PM ET

- NewYorkNuck

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 9 @ 2:16 PM ET
They don't really need to do anything much TBH

They could go with Schmidt OJ Rathbone Myers Hughes Chatfield.

It is not a popular choice but they could. I think they will be more active in trades than FA . Just my opinion.

- VANTEL


Sure they could, but I doubt they want to get blown out on a nightly basis.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 9 @ 2:17 PM ET
Sure they could, but I doubt they want to get blown out on a nightly basis.
- Reubenkincade


Talk about the Avs being soft
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 9 @ 2:17 PM ET
Nah, Woo & Chatfield can step in. Big year for the prospects.
- Marwood


Sure hope they leave Woo in the minors, it would ruin him, being rushed into the league.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 9 @ 2:21 PM ET
Talk about the Avs being soft
- NewYorkNuck


I really don't know what this team is going to look like, next season, we should have a better idea in 6 weeks or so.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 9 @ 2:25 PM ET
Sure they could, but I doubt they want to get blown out on a nightly basis.
- Reubenkincade

The team will be better, last season was filled with facts that shouldn't happen again.

Schmidt will vastly improve, Myers is a good defenceman, and hopefully Harmonic will also greatly stabilize the backend. Hughes will set scoring records and be a Norris candidate. Rathbone looked good, impressed with his development.
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