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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 8 @ 11:28 AM ET
Now that I am done work and have time... On the GWG last night:

1/ I don't know how he does it, because it is not size, but Suzuki always comes out of those puck battles with the puck on his or a teammate's stick. That kid has tenacity.

2/ People talk about CC needing to shoot more, but the kid has crazy vision and slick passing skills.

3/ When is Toffoli not in the right place on the ice?

Seems fitting that line scored the goal last night, and they will be fun to watch in the next few years.

Also, have we ever seen anyone more excited than CC after the win?

- Mashadar



I know a lot of people here might not like him that much but Bergevin was pretty excited after that win, I thought it was really nice to see a GM so happy about his team loll
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 8 @ 11:28 AM ET
There were reports of a specific offer and term that was turned down but it's been denied by Phil's camp so who knows but I think the report was either $5 or $5.5 x 6. I think. Honestly forget at this point despite all the debate about it
- Takemedrunkimhome




debate, what debate?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 8 @ 11:29 AM ET
I know a lot of people here might not like him that much but Bergevin was pretty excited after that win, I thought it was really nice to see a GM so happy about his team loll
- Pat1993


Bergevin is a good guy. I truly think he cares about his team and his players.

Just remember when he talked about Gallagher, guy was almost tearing up ffs.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 8 @ 11:30 AM ET
Well some reports said he refused a 5M for 6 years contract before the season started.

He had a "meh" regular season but is bouncing back pretty damn high in the playoffs.

So who knows anymore.

- Scabeh

I might do 3 x 7m but yeah with the flat cap things are weird too.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 8 @ 11:31 AM ET
I understand how small sample sizes work and have you seen Detroit’s roster? I will take all the legit top 6 help I can get.
- Feds91Stammer

I'm good at math and I do too.

Career Playoffs

Tatar: 40 gp, 6 goals, 6 assists
Danault: 27 gp, 1 goal, 7 assists

Danault at least brings dominant defense. Tatar is a scorer (Habs regular season leading point producer since arriving) who produces at a sub 3rd line clip in the playoffs. Samples aren't too small to start to analyze the numbers when you consider the small opportunities the playoffs provide
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 8 @ 11:32 AM ET
agreed, we know he can score goals, he just needs to get rid of that playoff monkey off his back, his offensive contribution could turn out to be very useful
- Pat1993

Well what I don’t get is he’s extremely effective even when not scoring but there’s no narrative to support that so if he’s not producing he’s seen as negatively impacting the team.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 8 @ 11:32 AM ET
Bergevin is a good guy. I truly think he cares about his team and his players.

Just remember when he talked about Gallagher, guy was almost tearing up ffs.

- Scabeh



Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 8 @ 11:34 AM ET
I'm good at math and I do too.

Career Playoffs

Tatar: 40 gp, 6 goals, 6 assists
Danault: 27 gp, 1 goal, 7 assists

Danault at least brings dominant defense. Tatar is a scorer (Habs regular season leading point producer since arriving) who produces at a sub 3rd line clip in the playoffs. Samples aren't too small to start to analyze the numbers when you consider the small opportunities the playoffs provide

- Takemedrunkimhome

Case in point lol. Also not too worried about the playoffs. Tatar also was the playoff MVP in the AHL.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 8 @ 11:37 AM ET
Case in point lol. Also not too worried about the playoffs. Tatar also was the playoff MVP in the AHL.
- Feds91Stammer

And I was the spelling bee champ in elementary school. Tatar is 30. NHL accomplishments are all that matters now
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 8 @ 11:38 AM ET
And I was the spelling bee champ in elementary school. Tatar is 30. NHL accomplishments are all that matters now
- Takemedrunkimhome



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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 8 @ 11:39 AM ET
And I was the spelling bee champ in elementary school. Tatar is 30. NHL accomplishments are all that matters now
- Takemedrunkimhome


Well you never know, Tatar might bounce back in the playoffs with the right setting.

It just hasn't happened yet.

Just like I'm not completely writing off Matthews or Marner having a great series one day. These are talented players, they can still score.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Jun 8 @ 11:44 AM ET
Well you never know, Tatar might bounce back in the playoffs with the right setting.

It just hasn't happened yet.

Just like I'm not completely writing off Matthews or Marner having a great series one day. These are talented players, they can still score.

- Scabeh


They're done.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 8 @ 11:46 AM ET
Well you never know, Tatar might bounce back in the playoffs with the right setting.

It just hasn't happened yet.

Just like I'm not completely writing off Matthews or Marner having a great series one day. These are talented players, they can still score.

- Scabeh

Tatar is 30, turns 31 in 2021. Comparing him to Matthews and Marner isn't apples to apples. His last two teams both made Tatar a healthy scratch on their way to a deep playoff run, that says a lot. There's also a long history of players scoring less after the age of 27, let alone 30, not a long history of players scoring more after 30. Impossible? no. Likely? no. The math currently says if a team with Tatar on it plays the max 28 games in the playoffs and he isn't scratched he'll contribute about 4 goals and 4 assists. Pay for that whatever you want...and I like Tatar
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 8 @ 11:48 AM ET
Tatar is 30, turns 31 in 2021. Comparing him to Matthews and Marner isn't apples to apples. His last two teams both made Tatar a healthy scratch on their way to a deep playoff run, that says a lot. There's also a long history of players scoring less after the age of 27, let alone 30, not a long history of players scoring more after 30. Impossible? no. Likely? no. The math currently says if a team with Tatar on it plays the max 28 games in the playoffs and he isn't scratched he'll contribute about 4 goals and 4 assists. Pay for that whatever you want...and I like Tatar
- Takemedrunkimhome


Oh I'm not saying your wrong.

But I'm a fan of believing in a player, even when the odds are against him.

After all... I did tell you about Lehkonen and his goals right?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 8 @ 11:53 AM ET
Tatar is 30, turns 31 in 2021. Comparing him to Matthews and Marner isn't apples to apples. His last two teams both made Tatar a healthy scratch on their way to a deep playoff run, that says a lot. There's also a long history of players scoring less after the age of 27, let alone 30, not a long history of players scoring more after 30. Impossible? no. Likely? no. The math currently says if a team with Tatar on it plays the max 28 games in the playoffs and he isn't scratched he'll contribute about 4 goals and 4 assists. Pay for that whatever you want...and I like Tatar
- Takemedrunkimhome

No team has ever won a cup by scratching Tatar. Pay for that whatever you want.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 8 @ 11:55 AM ET
No team has ever won a cup by scratching Tatar. Pay for that whatever you want.
- Feds91Stammer



Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 8 @ 11:55 AM ET
Oh I'm not saying your wrong.

But I'm a fan of believing in a player, even when the odds are against him.

After all... I did tell you about Lehkonen and his goals right?

- Scabeh

I'll give you Lehkonen. Nobody has kept that faith like you have. Doubt he ever gets back to his rookie season scoring but he's been huge since being back in the lineup
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 8 @ 11:57 AM ET
No team has ever won a cup by scratching Tatar. Pay for that whatever you want.
- Feds91Stammer

If we're doing this kind of logic, no player has ever won the Cup with their stick shoved directly up their ass either. Doesn't make it a good idea to try it, regardless of sample size
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jun 8 @ 11:58 AM ET
If we're doing this kind of logic, no player has ever won the Cup with their stick shoved directly up their ass either. Doesn't make it a good idea to try it, regardless of sample size
- Takemedrunkimhome

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 8 @ 12:01 PM ET
If we're doing this kind of logic, no player has ever won the Cup with their stick shoved directly up their ass either. Doesn't make it a good idea to try it, regardless of sample size
- Takemedrunkimhome

Claude Lemieux won multiple cups so you’re wrong.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 8 @ 12:04 PM ET
Claude Lemieux won multiple cups so you’re wrong.
- Feds91Stammer

yeah but sample size, right?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 8 @ 12:04 PM ET
I'll give you Lehkonen. Nobody has kept that faith like you have. Doubt he ever gets back to his rookie season scoring but he's been huge since being back in the lineup
- Takemedrunkimhome






Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 8 @ 12:04 PM ET
yeah but sample size, right?
- Takemedrunkimhome

Is that what your wife calls it?
Réal_Ruelle
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3333 pommes, NT
Joined: 01.13.2021

Jun 8 @ 12:07 PM ET
optobus-WPG-destroyed


- Pat1993


HB all of famers, for that and the peanut salad one. Can someone make à best of album?
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 8 @ 12:08 PM ET

- Scabeh



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