And don’t let the knuckleheads start running out he’s not been as great as he was… Dude literally had to pitch a shutout to get wins…. That’s how anemic our offense was and is presently….

He lead the league and was top 4 or 5 for 3 yrs just yesterday in GSAa% with a insane #

With the way Leafs can score he might literally never lose.

And I get to watch Willy play with Comtois & bury sweet apples from Z for the next decade on a legit 1st line.
- dozerD10

Gibson Rakell and Terry
for
Marner and Engvall

Or

Gibson and Terry
for
Nylander and Dermott

And don’t let the knuckleheads start running out he’s not been as great as he was… Dude literally had to pitch a shutout to get wins…. That’s how anemic our offense was and is presently….

He lead the league and was top 4 or 5 for 3 yrs just yesterday in GSAa% with a insane #

With the way Leafs can score he might literally never lose.

And I get to watch Willy play with Comtois & bury sweet apples from Z for the next decade on a legit 1st line.
- dozerD10

As much as id love Gibson, they arent trading Nylander. Prospects sure, but not him.

Maybe, I certainly would have never signed a goalie for 10M a season, so I get with Columbus wouldnt have gone that high in the first place.
- Archaic

That’s what I mean, he should have taken a little less and stayed with a team that propped him up and made him look like a $10m goalie.

That’s what I mean, he should have taken a little less and stayed with a team that propped him up and made him look like a $10m goalie.
- Garnie

So many players underestimate the value on sticking with a team where it just... works.

Because it can so easily fall apart.

Fleury
Grubauer
Vasilevskiy
Varlamov
Price

Do you see a trend here?

Build from the crease
- mr.sir

Vasilevskiy
Binnington
Holtby
Murray
Crawford

Those are the last 5 cup winning goalies (Murrary got 2). 2 rookie goalies, 2 past Venza winners, and Crawford who was a good goalie but never really in discussion for top goalie in the NHL, but made they saves when needed.

Both rookie goalies have gotten worse with every year, and neither Venza winner goalie actually won it the year they put up their best numbers.

Based on the past 5 cup winners, you could win the cup with a venza winning goalie, a rookie goalie that other teams haven't figure out yet, or a decent goalie that makes the timely saves.

The one thing all those teams had in common was their top line produced in the playoffs, the leafs didn't.

And don’t let the knuckleheads start running out he’s not been as great as he was… Dude literally had to pitch a shutout to get wins…. That’s how anemic our offense was and is presently….

He lead the league and was top 4 or 5 for 3 yrs just yesterday in GSAa% with a insane #

With the way Leafs can score he might literally never lose.

And I get to watch Willy play with Comtois & bury sweet apples from Z for the next decade on a legit 1st line.
- dozerD10

Maybe but if the Leafs trade Nylander they won't score in the playoffs.

As much as id love Gibson, they are trading Nylander. Prospects sure, but not him.
- Archaic

That’s the problem we can trade D and goalies but not forwards… Terry is one of the few guys that has offensive ability…

Manson and Gibson for Willie and Robertson…

Although Marner is a great player I got no interest in him at that number…

That’s what I mean, he should have taken a little less and stayed with a team that propped him up and made him look like a $10m goalie.
- Garnie

Yeah potentially. Not sure that many wanted to stay there, and now Torts is gone too.

That’s the problem we can trade D and goalies but not forwards… Terry is one of the few guys that has offensive ability…

Manson and Gibson for Willie and Robertson…

Although Marner is a great player I got no interest in him at that number…
- dozerD10

Nah, the Leafs need low cost fowards like Robertsen. Unfortunately there likely is no fit between the teams. I like Gibson alot too.

So many players underestimate the value on sticking with a team where it just... works.

Because it can so easily fall apart.
- Scabeh

He was also thinking about money and lifestyle which matters as well. Florida vs. Columbus

Santo: 'Price is a washed up goalie'.

Santo after Habs win against Leafs - with Price being a big part of that win: 'Yes, he had a few good games, but very unlikely he will be able to repeat vs Jets'.

SANTO clearly has no (frank)ing clue about how good hockey players are...

Vrana is a good player, and better than Mantha for sure.
- MaximusAurelius

Says the guy who wants to trade Matthews and Nylander.

He was also thinking about money and lifestyle which matters as well. Florida vs. Columbus
- Archaic

Think he'll be bought out?

Would be costly as hell but it's better than paying Bob 10M to be a backup to Knight.

So many players underestimate the value on sticking with a team where it just... works.

Because it can so easily fall apart.
- Scabeh

You’d think hockey people could also notice a lot of goalies are propped up with a well coached defensive team and not get sucked in.

Think he'll be bought out?

Would be costly as hell but it's better than paying Bob 10M to be a backup to Knight.
- Scabeh

They can't buy him out

SEASON INITIAL BASE SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT SIGNING BONUS BUYOUT COST POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS SAVINGS CAP HIT (Florida PanthersFLA)
2021-22 $6,000,000 $10,000,000 $6,000,000 $1,800,000 $7,800,000 $4,200,000 $5,800,000
2022-23 $6,000,000 $10,000,000 $6,000,000 $1,800,000 $7,800,000 $4,200,000 $5,800,000
2023-24 $5,000,000 $10,000,000 $5,000,000 $1,800,000 $6,800,000 $3,200,000 $6,800,000
2024-25 $5,000,000 $10,000,000 $1,500,000 $1,800,000 $3,300,000 $3,200,000 $6,800,000
2025-26 $5,000,000 $10,000,000 $1,000,000 $1,800,000 $2,800,000 $3,200,000 $6,800,000
2026-27 $0 $0 $0 $1,800,000 $1,800,000 -$1,800,000 $1,800,000
2027-28 $0 $0 $0 $1,800,000 $1,800,000 -$1,800,000 $1,800,000
2028-29 $0 $0 $0 $1,800,000 $1,800,000 -$1,800,000 $1,800,000
2029-30 $0 $0 $0 $1,800,000 $1,800,000 -$1,800,000 $1,800,000
2030-31 $0 $0 $0 $1,800,000 $1,800,000 -$1,800,000 $1,800,000

Think he'll be bought out?

Would be costly as hell but it's better than paying Bob 10M to be a backup to Knight.
- Scabeh

No chance, not for years with that contract. This would be the buyout details fro the cap hits

2022-23 $5,800,000
2023-24 $6,800,000
2024-25 $6,800,000
2025-26 $6,800,000
2026-27 $1,800,000
2027-28 $1,800,000
2028-29 $1,800,000
2029-30 $1,800,000
2030-31 $1,800,000

Id love for the Leafs to trade for Knight

Maybe but if the Leafs trade Nylander they won't score in the playoffs.
- bobbyisno1

4 5v5 goals in 3 playoffs.

If we’re worried about that we might as well fold.

4 5v5 goals in 3 playoffs.

If we’re worried about that we might as well fold.


- Garnie

What a pass by my boy Cole Caufield yesterday!

What a pass by my boy Cole Caufield yesterday!

- Scabeh

I called him first 🧐

What a pass by my boy Cole Caufield yesterday!

- Scabeh

I doubt many here were watching.....

He was also thinking about money and lifestyle which matters as well. Florida vs. Columbus
- Archaic

For sure, maybe Torts ends up in FLA

What a pass by my boy Cole Caufield yesterday!

- Scabeh

Fu k that lil hobbit.


Now I’m going to start cheering for the Habs, and you know what that means.

My cheers = losers

They can't buy him out

SEASON INITIAL BASE SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT SIGNING BONUS BUYOUT COST POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS SAVINGS CAP HIT (Florida PanthersFLA)
2021-22 $6,000,000 $10,000,000 $6,000,000 $1,800,000 $7,800,000 $4,200,000 $5,800,000
2022-23 $6,000,000 $10,000,000 $6,000,000 $1,800,000 $7,800,000 $4,200,000 $5,800,000
2023-24 $5,000,000 $10,000,000 $5,000,000 $1,800,000 $6,800,000 $3,200,000 $6,800,000
2024-25 $5,000,000 $10,000,000 $1,500,000 $1,800,000 $3,300,000 $3,200,000 $6,800,000
2025-26 $5,000,000 $10,000,000 $1,000,000 $1,800,000 $2,800,000 $3,200,000 $6,800,000
2026-27 $0 $0 $0 $1,800,000 $1,800,000 -$1,800,000 $1,800,000
2027-28 $0 $0 $0 $1,800,000 $1,800,000 -$1,800,000 $1,800,000
2028-29 $0 $0 $0 $1,800,000 $1,800,000 -$1,800,000 $1,800,000
2029-30 $0 $0 $0 $1,800,000 $1,800,000 -$1,800,000 $1,800,000
2030-31 $0 $0 $0 $1,800,000 $1,800,000 -$1,800,000 $1,800,000
- AdamFrench

Gibberish

Fu k that lil hobbit.


Now I’m going to start cheering for the Habs, and you know what that means.

My cheers = losers
- Garnie

It's time to break the curse Garnie.

Jump into the #optobus! There's room in the back!

4 5v5 goals in 3 playoffs.

If we’re worried about that we might as well fold.


- Garnie

Oh... Didn't realize only 5 on 5 goals counted.

I doubt many here were watching.....
- Archaic

You only watch Leafs games? Plenty of good hockey still being played.

That Colorado/Vegas series is especially crazy.