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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 8 @ 2:23 PM ET
Well the NHL lets Tampa dictate their own salary cap and we all know the league has a hard-on for all things Boston..

So, we're screwed..

- PatC80


Yet Bruce Cassidy has the AUDACITY to whine about the refs.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Jun 8 @ 2:24 PM ET
Well the NHL lets Tampa dictate their own salary cap and we all know the league has a hard-on for all things Boston..

So, we're screwed..

- PatC80


Anyone catch the Bruins coach whining about penalties after the game and then getting a 25K fine today?

I laughed hard at both.........Boston & their fans don't like "being Boston'd" apparently?

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 8 @ 2:25 PM ET
Anyone catch the Bruins coach whining about penalties after the game and then getting a 25K fine today?

I laughed hard at both.........Boston & their fans don't like "being Boston'd" apparently?


- Cush29


It was glorious.

Reminded me of the good old:




Isles
Location: Sweet Lou NY
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 8 @ 2:25 PM ET


Where is Roger?
Isles
Location: Sweet Lou NY
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 8 @ 2:27 PM ET
Anyone catch the Bruins coach whining about penalties after the game and then getting a 25K fine today?

I laughed hard at both.........Boston & their fans don't like "being Boston'd" apparently?


- Cush29


Then an hour later Ritchie gets a $5,000 fine for his cheap elbow
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Jun 8 @ 2:27 PM ET
Yet Bruce Cassidy has the AUDACITY to whine about the refs.
- Scabeh


I watched that game last night, the fans in the stands going ape poop over a Bruin being legally knocked off the puck in the 3rd period was hilarious.

I'm starting to think the years of the Bruins getting preferential treatment from the officials in the playoffs has made some in that fan base not know what is an actual penalty anymore.

Plus the big, bad cross checking machine with a get out of jail free card got traded to Washington so apparently he took his officiating good will with him.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 8 @ 2:27 PM ET
Yet Bruce Cassidy has the AUDACITY to whine about the refs.
- Scabeh

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 8 @ 2:27 PM ET
Anyone catch the Bruins coach whining about penalties after the game and then getting a 25K fine today?

I laughed hard at both.........Boston & their fans don't like "being Boston'd" apparently?


- Cush29



Bruins fans don't like when the rules are called fair
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 8 @ 2:30 PM ET
Well the NHL lets Tampa dictate their own salary cap and we all know the league has a hard-on for all things Boston..

So, we're screwed..

- PatC80

(frank)ing no state tax bullsiht.

Remember that guy who wrote an article (last year?) claiming that no state tax being an advantage was actually a myth? Good times.
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 8 @ 2:30 PM ET
Well the NHL lets Tampa dictate their own salary cap and we all know the league has a hard-on for all things Boston..

So, we're screwed..

- PatC80


Yeah, all those Cups we've won in the past 10 years...
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 8 @ 2:31 PM ET
You're totally correct. I should have referred to the Core 4 as mammoth in totality.

Nylander has one of the best value contracts in the league which I think the Leafs would be insane to trade at this point. Is he a super attractive (double-entendre intended) player for other teams? Yup. But he has precisely the type of contract the Leafs need more of.

- mjones242

Actually no he doesnt have one the best value contracts in the league.
He's good offensively and a 6.9 cap hit is about where he should be.
Defensively and away from the puck....meh, not the greatest.

Pasta, Bergeron, Marchand, Mckinnon, Huberdeau, Scheifele, Barkov, Drysaddle all have one the best value contracts in the league.
willie is not in this category.
Sorry.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Jun 8 @ 2:32 PM ET
Then an hour later Ritchie gets a $5,000 fine for his cheap elbow

- Isles


Should have been more than a $5K fine in my opinion but it was deserved for sure, hard to argue anything other than intent to injure there & if the league really means what they say about removing dangerous head shots.....oh wait never mind they only mean it sometimes, not all the time and you find out when they mean it when they decide to tell you & you will take it and like it.
Isles
Location: Sweet Lou NY
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 8 @ 2:34 PM ET
Should have been more than a $5K fine in my opinion but it was deserved for sure, hard to argue anything other than intent to injure there & if the league really means what they say about removing dangerous head shots.....oh wait never mind they only mean it sometimes, not all the time and you find out when they mean it when they decide to tell you & you will take it and like it.
- Cush29


Absolutely
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jun 8 @ 2:34 PM ET
Yet Bruce Cassidy has the AUDACITY to whine about the refs.
- Scabeh


that "whine" by Cassidy gave me about a 2 minute solid "chuckle" and "head shake"...

talk about tone-deaf or complete lack of self awareness.

you'd almost get the idea that Cassidy has been watching/listening to Jack Edwards.... but seriously, its a case of the Bruins haven become so accustomed to preferential treatment, or getting the benefit of the doubt for so long... that they simply can't grasp when things don't go completely in their favor.

I found the thing about Bergeron in the face off circle particularly entertaining.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 8 @ 2:34 PM ET
im fine giving it another go as is, the same core 4.
but im not confident they win a round.

this was the lay up easy route for them.. if they were ever going to slay the dragon.
up 3-1...this was it.

iv lost all confidence in this team as it is.

waste another year..thats fine

- senstroll


I like to bet on talent.

Success isn’t linear, I don’t want to make this team worse because peoples feelings are hurt.

Unless Echiel is coming back for Marner then Marner is coming back.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 8 @ 2:35 PM ET
Bruins fans don't like when the rules are called fair
- PatC80

The vulgarity of it.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 8 @ 2:37 PM ET
Wait a second ... you've lost "all confidence in the team as is" ... but you're willing to "give it another go"?

- Nasty_Duck

"Willing".....more like "has no choice" right now.
r8edr
Joined: 07.06.2012

Jun 8 @ 2:38 PM ET
It's an interesting point. Why are the Bruins and Tampa ahead of the Leafs both in terms of regular season AND post-season success at this point?

What do the Leafs lack that those teams do not?

- mjones242


Their top players actually perform in the playoffs. They have better goaltending and defense. But seriously take a look at their top players through 10 games, and then look at the leafs through 7 games. You aren't winning playoff series when your top line plays 23+ minutes a game, and all 3 guys combine for 2 goals.

As far a regular seasons success. I believe that Tampa and Boston are just better overall teams. Boston is starting to age out, but then Florida is improving, so the leafs might jump Boston, but Florida might leap frog both.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 8 @ 2:38 PM ET
Actually no he doesnt have one the best value contracts in the league.
He good offensively and a 6.9 cap hit is about where he should be.
Defensively and away from the puck....meh, not the greatest.

Pasta, Bergeron, Marchand, Mckinnon, Huberdeau, Scheifele, Barkov, Drysaddle all have one the best value contracts in the league.
willie is not in this category.
Sorry.

- Fakepartofme

That's 8 names. Keep going...
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 8 @ 2:39 PM ET
Their top players actually perform in the playoffs. They have better goaltending and defense. But seriously take a look at their top players through 10 games, and then look at the leafs through 7 games. You aren't winning playoff series when your top line plays 23+ minutes a game, and all 3 guys combine for 2 goals.

As far a regular seasons success. I believe that Tampa and Boston are just better overall teams. Boston is starting to age out, but then Florida is improving, so the leafs might jump Boston, but Florida might leap frog both.

- r8edr

Nailed it.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 8 @ 2:39 PM ET
How confident are you they make the playoffs next year, if they are back to the regular eastern conference? I'm not convinced they would finish ahead of Tampa, Boston or Florida.
- r8edr


anything is possible with this team


Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Jun 8 @ 2:39 PM ET
(frank)ing no state tax bullsiht.

Remember that guy who wrote an article (last year?) claiming that no state tax being an advantage was actually a myth? Good times.

- mjones242


Imagine if the league actually put salary cap rules in place that addressed things like state/provincial tax as part of a salary equation? You have to wonder how much things might change - maybe not at all but maybe, just maybe...... players might not look at going to Edmonton or Winnipeg or Calgary as negatively and even look past the insanity that is the media in Toronto and Montreal or the pressures of playing in any Canadian market (ya ok Vancouver too I guess?). Then some of the Canadian teams may actually be able to land some players that they just haven't been able to in the past.

Look at poor Edmonton when they try to sign big name UFA's.

Hi Player X we will offer you X more years at X more $.

Flordia team swoops in we will offer you a few less years at less $ but your take home pay is the same or better than what Edmonton offered plus you get to live in FLA & deal with being the 4th (at best) most popular sport with very little press coverage.

Hard choice for players I'm sure.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 8 @ 2:40 PM ET
Their top players actually perform in the playoffs. They have better goaltending and defense. But seriously take a look at their top players through 10 games, and then look at the leafs through 7 games. You aren't winning playoff series when your top line plays 23+ minutes a game, and all 3 guys combine for 2 goals.

As far a regular seasons success. I believe that Tampa and Boston are just better overall teams. Boston is starting to age out, but then Florida is improving, so the leafs might jump Boston, but Florida might leap frog both.

- r8edr


So what happens when your top players do score but still lose the series? And also have a lengthy 1st round elimination streak?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 8 @ 2:41 PM ET
It's an interesting point. Why are the Bruins and Tampa ahead of the Leafs both in terms of regular season AND post-season success at this point?

What do the Leafs lack that those teams do not?

- mjones242

Heart
Determination
They understand what playoff hockey is

Dont have $40m tied up in 4 forwards.

Just some quick notes from watching other playoff series
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 8 @ 2:42 PM ET
I like to bet on talent.

Success isn’t linear, I don’t want to make this team worse because peoples feelings are hurt.

Unless Echiel is coming back for Marner then Marner is coming back.

- Santo_44


i wouldnt make a deal just to get him out...only if they got a good return. hockey trade of value for a 90pt regular season dipseydoodledangle
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