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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 8 @ 8:52 PM ET
CN Tower is lit up in Habs colours tonight so that’s pretty funny
Da_Cashman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.18.2011

Jun 8 @ 9:02 PM ET
CN Tower is lit up in Habs colours tonight so that’s pretty funny
- Pegullaville



You guys get a house yet? Saw some right beside white oaks mall for $500k. Crazy town
Da_Cashman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.18.2011

Jun 8 @ 9:03 PM ET
CN Tower is lit up in Habs colours tonight so that’s pretty funny
- Pegullaville



You guys get a house yet? Saw some right beside white oaks mall for $500k. Crazy town
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 8 @ 9:04 PM ET
Yikes you could have ended up in London, and that might be the only place in Ontario worse than Hamilton due to Pegulaville's presence no doubt.
- BeadyEyedDouche


We took the Canada route there and back. Northern Southern Ontario, Parry Sound, North Bay, Orrville, Sudbury is gorgeous, the route through to Detroit, not so much.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 8 @ 9:06 PM ET
CN Tower is lit up in Habs colours tonight so that’s pretty funny
- Pegullaville


Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 8 @ 9:07 PM ET
So happy we won't be seeing that stupid Carolina storm surge the rest of the playoffs
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 8 @ 9:12 PM ET
So happy we won't be seeing that stupid Carolina storm surge the rest of the playoffs
- Michael Pachla


Me too...for a different reason.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 8 @ 9:14 PM ET
You guys get a house yet? Saw some right beside white oaks mall for $500k. Crazy town
- Da_Cashman


We are holding serve right now and waiting to see what the next 4-6 months holds for the housing market.

She doesn’t want to wait any more longer then that so if we don’t get a dip I’ll have to bite the bullet.

Happy wife, happy life I guess right.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 8 @ 9:15 PM ET
Alright!
Got that done.

Now, let's go MacKinnon! Lead the boys forward!
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 8 @ 9:21 PM ET
Know it's time to see what happens to the Bod.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 8 @ 9:23 PM ET
Real Estate has doubled for the most part so there are several that disagree with your sentiment.
- Pegullaville


This last part here is one of the biggest fallacies pushed by neo-liberals - People are just trying to settle down and they've been priced out of places like New York, Toronto, Vancouver, Chicago...

Don't kid yourself.

Just like everyone back home - All I have heard the past 5 years is "Buffalo is a city on the up" and holy hell it really is not. A few dinky developments on Transit Rd., Niagara Falls Boulevard is still a pile of dog crap, Orchard Park is still Orchard Park...

There is development EVERYWHERE in Columbus right now. Pitssburgh, too. I was just there last weekend. Now, I'm not huge on rapid, cheap, exploitative development, nor do I think it's the one smoking gun sign of a booming city, however, you can't deny what you see and I live in the hottest housing market in the USA right now, that's actually a recently published fact.

I know people personally and meet people constantly that have been priced out of Columbus city limits - A house is on and off the market in a week down here right now. They've had to settle for the suburbs.

After the children of the boomers made an exodus out of the cities to raise children in the suburbs, their children raced back to the cities and rapidly gentrified them, causing price-gouging and modern red-lining. This in turn has forced those same millennials back to the suburbs and satellite cities - even to new metropolitan areas completely.

Maybe London, Ontario is on the up, maybe people do desire it - but I can guarantee you that a vast majority would prefer to be in Toronto, Mississauga, etc... And be able to maintain their lifestyle in those places but real-estate is gouging everywhere.

Places like Reno, Nevada, all over Idaho, Ohio, Texas... That's where Americans are moving to and it's precisely because they've been priced out of the bigger cities. Population is actually decreasing in America, so it's not from a lack of space or a need for new developments necessarily.

Right now, the current boon is an "If you build it, they will come." philosophy but you need the mass appeal in the first place. That's why Buffalo keeps failing - The Tesla plant, the proposed cell phone (Samsung?) plant they want to put in the Alabama swamps, all the new developments that went absolutely nowhere... All the while the answer was right in the faces of the city's leaders. Just make what's there look nice and invest in your already existing infrastructure instead of needlessly building "luxury" apartments in the name of vanity and profit - Most of these new developments, most of the new homes I've seen in those mass-produced "communities" like the ones on Campbell Boulevard in the Pendelton/Amherst area - They're all cheap ass particleboard and 2x4's with little to no insulation in certain spots. The utilities are extremely high, the foundation of the house is made as cheap as possible and I swear if I look at them and get mad enough they might start on fire.

All in the name of vanity and hot real estate.

Sodom and Gomorrah.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jun 8 @ 9:32 PM ET
Know it's time to see what happens to the Bod.
- Buff36



YUPPPPPPPP throw 5 mill a year at him and tell him eichel is staying.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 8 @ 9:33 PM ET
This last part here is one of the biggest fallacies pushed by neo-liberals - People are just trying to settle down and they've been priced out of places like New York, Toronto, Vancouver, Chicago...

Don't kid yourself.

Just like everyone back home - All I have heard the past 5 years is "Buffalo is a city on the up" and holy hell it really is not. A few dinky developments on Transit Rd., Niagara Falls Boulevard is still a pile of dog crap, Orchard Park is still Orchard Park...

There is development EVERYWHERE in Columbus right now. Pitssburgh, too. I was just there last weekend. Now, I'm not huge on rapid, cheap, exploitative development, nor do I think it's the one smoking gun sign of a booming city, however, you can't deny what you see and I live in the hottest housing market in the USA right now, that's actually a recently published fact.

I know people personally and meet people constantly that have been priced out of Columbus city limits - A house is on and off the market in a week down here right now. They've had to settle for the suburbs.

After the children of the boomers made an exodus out of the cities to raise children in the suburbs, their children raced back to the cities and rapidly gentrified them, causing price-gouging and modern red-lining. This in turn has forced those same millennials back to the suburbs and satellite cities - even to new metropolitan areas completely.

Maybe London, Ontario is on the up, maybe people do desire it - but I can guarantee you that a vast majority would prefer to be in Toronto, Mississauga, etc... And be able to maintain their lifestyle in those places but real-estate is gouging everywhere.

Places like Reno, Nevada, all over Idaho, Ohio, Texas... That's where Americans are moving to and it's precisely because they've been priced out of the bigger cities. Population is actually decreasing in America, so it's not from a lack of space or a need for new developments necessarily.

Right now, the current boon is an "If you build it, they will come." philosophy but you need the mass appeal in the first place. That's why Buffalo keeps failing - The Tesla plant, the proposed cell phone (Samsung?) plant they want to put in the Alabama swamps, all the new developments that went absolutely nowhere... All the while the answer was right in the faces of the city's leaders. Just make what's there look nice and invest in your already existing infrastructure instead of needlessly building "luxury" apartments in the name of vanity and profit - Most of these new developments, most of the new homes I've seen in those mass-produced "communities" like the ones on Campbell Boulevard in the Pendelton/Amherst area - They're all cheap ass particleboard and 2x4's with little to no insulation in certain spots. The utilities are extremely high, the foundation of the house is made as cheap as possible and I swear if I look at them and get mad enough they might start on fire.

All in the name of vanity and hot real estate.

Sodom and Gomorrah.

- BeadyEyedDouche


Utilities are too damn high!



Also, please elaborate on your thoughts regarding Orchard Park
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 8 @ 9:33 PM ET
This last part here is one of the biggest fallacies pushed by neo-liberals - People are just trying to settle down and they've been priced out of places like New York, Toronto, Vancouver, Chicago...

Don't kid yourself.

Just like everyone back home - All I have heard the past 5 years is "Buffalo is a city on the up" and holy hell it really is not. A few dinky developments on Transit Rd., Niagara Falls Boulevard is still a pile of dog crap, Orchard Park is still Orchard Park...

There is development EVERYWHERE in Columbus right now. Pitssburgh, too. I was just there last weekend. Now, I'm not huge on rapid, cheap, exploitative development, nor do I think it's the one smoking gun sign of a booming city, however, you can't deny what you see and I live in the hottest housing market in the USA right now, that's actually a recently published fact.

I know people personally and meet people constantly that have been priced out of Columbus city limits - A house is on and off the market in a week down here right now. They've had to settle for the suburbs.

After the children of the boomers made an exodus out of the cities to raise children in the suburbs, their children raced back to the cities and rapidly gentrified them, causing price-gouging and modern red-lining. This in turn has forced those same millennials back to the suburbs and satellite cities - even to new metropolitan areas completely.

Maybe London, Ontario is on the up, maybe people do desire it - but I can guarantee you that a vast majority would prefer to be in Toronto, Mississauga, etc... And be able to maintain their lifestyle in those places but real-estate is gouging everywhere.

Places like Reno, Nevada, all over Idaho, Ohio, Texas... That's where Americans are moving to and it's precisely because they've been priced out of the bigger cities. Population is actually decreasing in America, so it's not from a lack of space or a need for new developments necessarily.

Right now, the current boon is an "If you build it, they will come." philosophy but you need the mass appeal in the first place. That's why Buffalo keeps failing - The Tesla plant, the proposed cell phone (Samsung?) plant they want to put in the Alabama swamps, all the new developments that went absolutely nowhere... All the while the answer was right in the faces of the city's leaders. Just make what's there look nice and invest in your already existing infrastructure instead of needlessly building "luxury" apartments in the name of vanity and profit - Most of these new developments, most of the new homes I've seen in those mass-produced "communities" like the ones on Campbell Boulevard in the Pendelton/Amherst area - They're all cheap ass particleboard and 2x4's with little to no insulation in certain spots. The utilities are extremely high, the foundation of the house is made as cheap as possible and I swear if I look at them and get mad enough they might start on fire.

All in the name of vanity and hot real estate.

Sodom and Gomorrah.

- BeadyEyedDouche


Yawn
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 8 @ 9:56 PM ET
This last part here is one of the biggest fallacies pushed by neo-liberals - People are just trying to settle down and they've been priced out of places like New York, Toronto, Vancouver, Chicago...

Don't kid yourself.

Just like everyone back home - All I have heard the past 5 years is "Buffalo is a city on the up" and holy hell it really is not. A few dinky developments on Transit Rd., Niagara Falls Boulevard is still a pile of dog crap, Orchard Park is still Orchard Park...

There is development EVERYWHERE in Columbus right now. Pitssburgh, too. I was just there last weekend. Now, I'm not huge on rapid, cheap, exploitative development, nor do I think it's the one smoking gun sign of a booming city, however, you can't deny what you see and I live in the hottest housing market in the USA right now, that's actually a recently published fact.

I know people personally and meet people constantly that have been priced out of Columbus city limits - A house is on and off the market in a week down here right now. They've had to settle for the suburbs.

After the children of the boomers made an exodus out of the cities to raise children in the suburbs, their children raced back to the cities and rapidly gentrified them, causing price-gouging and modern red-lining. This in turn has forced those same millennials back to the suburbs and satellite cities - even to new metropolitan areas completely.

Maybe London, Ontario is on the up, maybe people do desire it - but I can guarantee you that a vast majority would prefer to be in Toronto, Mississauga, etc... And be able to maintain their lifestyle in those places but real-estate is gouging everywhere.

Places like Reno, Nevada, all over Idaho, Ohio, Texas... That's where Americans are moving to and it's precisely because they've been priced out of the bigger cities. Population is actually decreasing in America, so it's not from a lack of space or a need for new developments necessarily.

Right now, the current boon is an "If you build it, they will come." philosophy but you need the mass appeal in the first place. That's why Buffalo keeps failing - The Tesla plant, the proposed cell phone (Samsung?) plant they want to put in the Alabama swamps, all the new developments that went absolutely nowhere... All the while the answer was right in the faces of the city's leaders. Just make what's there look nice and invest in your already existing infrastructure instead of needlessly building "luxury" apartments in the name of vanity and profit - Most of these new developments, most of the new homes I've seen in those mass-produced "communities" like the ones on Campbell Boulevard in the Pendelton/Amherst area - They're all cheap ass particleboard and 2x4's with little to no insulation in certain spots. The utilities are extremely high, the foundation of the house is made as cheap as possible and I swear if I look at them and get mad enough they might start on fire.

All in the name of vanity and hot real estate.

Sodom and Gomorrah.

- BeadyEyedDouche


I can’t really disagree with much of what you have said here for the most part actually 🤝

I currently live in Milton (border of Mississauga and Oakville). Obviously being in Milton I’m a quick drive to Toronto so the location aspect is definitely a plus.

What I do find though is in a city like Milton all they are doing are building housing that’s pretty much on top of each other, and due to paying for the accessibility to the 401/QEW and the location to the GTA, there is so much traffic within the city it is unbelievable. There is also no entertainment value unless you are commuting to Toronto or Mississauga every weekend for the most part. Most of the new builds every where in close proximity to myself have a backyard big enough to fit a shed. No spending on anything to actually do though within Milton at all. It has the same entertainment venues the city had when it had 1/3rd the population.

I can either get an apartment/condo for $500-600K or spend the same amount and get a 3 bedroom house in London, in some instances a 4 bedroom.

I believe many people are moving from the GTA to out to Western Ontario due to remote working capabilities and the ability to double their property sizes and still put a few hundred thousand in the bank account. I know my parents would have themselves if it weren’t for my father working in the service industry and having to be within driving distance to Pearson airport area in Toronto.

With interest rates this low, it’s causing rampant speculation everywhere.

Canada’s housing market is much, much hotter than quite possibly anywhere else and it’s due to constant foreign investment (mostly money laundering )
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 8 @ 10:05 PM ET
Utilities are too damn high!



Also, please elaborate on your thoughts regarding Orchard Park

- Hank Balling


Well, Orchard Park has always been part of the trio of hard suburb red lining in Buffalo for decades now, with it's white, working-class ghetto Hamburg not too far behind - And that's not even a knock on Hamburg because that's exactly what it is. And it's yuppie safe-haven East Aurora on the opposite side, and again, not a knock - I (frank)ing love East Aurora and if I had stayed in the area or eventually move back, that's the only place I'd consider. Just always loved it there.

But once all of the Athletes, specifically the Bills players, started moving to the Orchard Park area in the 80's (from what everyone tells me they still used to live pretty much right in the city's nicer neighborhoods in the 1970's) it pretty much guaranteed there wouldn't be too many ambitious developments, especially housing developments. If it isn't a strip mall, a machine shop or very small production facility or a big mansion, it isn't going in Orchard Park. That's "land" land. It's like a hybrid of land.

And that is not a bad thing. There's a decent amount of jobs in Orchard Park, there are some really nice properties and affordable homes in the surrounding area, and you have all the facilities you need right there and it's not all crammed on top of itself like Amherst. there's still nature, there's always nice streams and parks and trails in the South towns, and the traffic isn't that bad unless it's a Bills game, especially when compared to Transit Rd and the Boulevard.

I didn't go down there a ton during the last few years before I left, but Orchard Park has always been Orchard Park to me, I don't know. It's always kind of had this slow development, obviously the Stadium still being there plays a huge role in everything but aside from a lot of middle-class douche-bros, never had an issue with Orchard Park. I think it's a well managed municipality.


IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 8 @ 10:08 PM ET
This last part here is one of the biggest fallacies pushed by neo-liberals - People are just trying to settle down and they've been priced out of places like New York, Toronto, Vancouver, Chicago...

Don't kid yourself.

Just like everyone back home - All I have heard the past 5 years is "Buffalo is a city on the up" and holy hell it really is not. A few dinky developments on Transit Rd., Niagara Falls Boulevard is still a pile of dog crap, Orchard Park is still Orchard Park...

There is development EVERYWHERE in Columbus right now. Pitssburgh, too. I was just there last weekend. Now, I'm not huge on rapid, cheap, exploitative development, nor do I think it's the one smoking gun sign of a booming city, however, you can't deny what you see and I live in the hottest housing market in the USA right now, that's actually a recently published fact.

I know people personally and meet people constantly that have been priced out of Columbus city limits - A house is on and off the market in a week down here right now. They've had to settle for the suburbs.

After the children of the boomers made an exodus out of the cities to raise children in the suburbs, their children raced back to the cities and rapidly gentrified them, causing price-gouging and modern red-lining. This in turn has forced those same millennials back to the suburbs and satellite cities - even to new metropolitan areas completely.

Maybe London, Ontario is on the up, maybe people do desire it - but I can guarantee you that a vast majority would prefer to be in Toronto, Mississauga, etc... And be able to maintain their lifestyle in those places but real-estate is gouging everywhere.

Places like Reno, Nevada, all over Idaho, Ohio, Texas... That's where Americans are moving to and it's precisely because they've been priced out of the bigger cities. Population is actually decreasing in America, so it's not from a lack of space or a need for new developments necessarily.

Right now, the current boon is an "If you build it, they will come." philosophy but you need the mass appeal in the first place. That's why Buffalo keeps failing - The Tesla plant, the proposed cell phone (Samsung?) plant they want to put in the Alabama swamps, all the new developments that went absolutely nowhere... All the while the answer was right in the faces of the city's leaders. Just make what's there look nice and invest in your already existing infrastructure instead of needlessly building "luxury" apartments in the name of vanity and profit - Most of these new developments, most of the new homes I've seen in those mass-produced "communities" like the ones on Campbell Boulevard in the Pendelton/Amherst area - They're all cheap ass particleboard and 2x4's with little to no insulation in certain spots. The utilities are extremely high, the foundation of the house is made as cheap as possible and I swear if I look at them and get mad enough they might start on fire.

All in the name of vanity and hot real estate.

Sodom and Gomorrah.

- BeadyEyedDouche


Welp, Sarasota / Bradenton Fl might contest that. $M homes are being bought sight unseen in 2 friggin' days. There is literally no used home inventory, new builds are out 12 - 15 months...they can't build them fast enough, literally. Homes that were built for $400k 3 years ago are now selling for $600k - $650k.

A good friend of mine owns a Real Estage Brokerage company with 300 Agents in it...he is saying the market is driven by a lot of business owners in the north blue states selling their northern homes to relocate to FL. I sell to residential home owners an echo that thought...a ton of people moving out...have had it with taxes and political climate...as well as the weather to be sure.

I hear RE all over is busting at the seams though...but the cities are dying as nobody wants to live in congested areas hence values are down there.

So glad I moved years ago!
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 8 @ 10:16 PM ET
Well, Orchard Park has always been part of the trio of hard suburb red lining in Buffalo for decades now, with it's white, working-class ghetto Hamburg not too far behind - And that's not even a knock on Hamburg because that's exactly what it is. And it's yuppie safe-haven East Aurora on the opposite side, and again, not a knock - I (frank)ing love East Aurora and if I had stayed in the area or eventually move back, that's the only place I'd consider. Just always loved it there.

But once all of the Athletes, specifically the Bills players, started moving to the Orchard Park area in the 80's (from what everyone tells me they still used to live pretty much right in the city's nicer neighborhoods in the 1970's) it pretty much guaranteed there wouldn't be too many ambitious developments, especially housing developments. If it isn't a strip mall, a machine shop or very small production facility or a big mansion, it isn't going in Orchard Park. That's "land" land. It's like a hybrid of land.

And that is not a bad thing. There's a decent amount of jobs in Orchard Park, there are some really nice properties and affordable homes in the surrounding area, and you have all the facilities you need right there and it's not all crammed on top of itself like Amherst. there's still nature, there's always nice streams and parks and trails in the South towns, and the traffic isn't that bad unless it's a Bills game, especially when compared to Transit Rd and the Boulevard.

I didn't go down there a ton during the last few years before I left, but Orchard Park has always been Orchard Park to me, I don't know. It's always kind of had this slow development, obviously the Stadium still being there plays a huge role in everything but aside from a lot of middle-class douche-bros, never had an issue with Orchard Park. I think it's a well managed municipality.

- BeadyEyedDouche


You can buy a brand new Marrano home in a new sub division down the street from me for the low, low price of $500k

Also, solid rant work
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 8 @ 10:17 PM ET
I can’t really disagree with much of what you have said here for the most part actually 🤝

I currently live in Milton (border of Mississauga and Oakville). Obviously being in Milton I’m a quick drive to Toronto so the location aspect is definitely a plus.

What I do find though is in a city like Milton all they are doing are building housing that’s pretty much on top of each other, and due to paying for the accessibility to the 401/QEW and the location to the GTA, there is so much traffic within the city it is unbelievable. There is also no entertainment value unless you are commuting to Toronto or Mississauga every weekend for the most part. Most of the new builds every where in close proximity to myself have a backyard big enough to fit a shed. No spending on anything to actually do though within Milton at all. It has the same entertainment venues the city had when it had 1/3rd the population.

I can either get an apartment/condo for $500-600K or spend the same amount and get a 3 bedroom house in London, in some instances a 4 bedroom.

I believe many people are moving from the GTA to out West due to remote working capabilities and the ability to double their property sizes and still put a few hundred thousand in the bank account. I know my parents would have themselves if it weren’t for my father working in the service industry and having to be within driving distance to Pearson airport area in Toronto.

With interest rates this low, it’s causing rampant speculation everywhere.

Canada’s housing market is much, much hotter than quite possibly anywhere else and it’s due to constant foreign investment (mostly money laundering )

- Pegullaville


The bolded and underlined part is exactly it. And a lot of times, the effects of having to make this kind of decision aren't felt until you have children - School districts, access to recreational activities, crime index and safety, a lot of stuff comes much later after you've made your decision and no amount of planning or foresight can see certain forces that are out of our control.

And Canada is the highest quality of life on the planet right now, for a lot of reasons, but a low population, Northern climate and vast amounts of Natural Gas, Oil, rare Earth minerals, timber... Canada is a rich-ass country on top of everything. I legitimately looked into immigrating there about 10 or 15 years ago, but in doing so pretty much discovered that immigrating is a middle-class thing at the very least, and Canada is actually pretty expensive, even for an American.

I talk a lot of crap, but it's not a dig at Canada or people or places specifically as much as it is a loathing of our crumbling infrastructures and incredible wealth-disparity, as well as corrupt governments and municipalities that don't do anything to plan for a city long-term and it's been a 65 year trend in pretty much all of the developed world.

After World War II there was a generational boom, aka baby boomers, and a period of rapid growth and development followed by a longer period of neglect and poor city planning. You would think we'd have learned from all of the past 50 or 60 years but even with a housing crash still in our rear-view mirror, we're headed full-steam ahead to a brick wall again and as strong as Capitalism is right now, if and when the bubble bursts, it's going to send pandemic-shadowing implications across the entire world economy.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 8 @ 10:19 PM ET
Welp, Sarasota / Bradenton Fl might contest that. $M homes are being bought sight unseen in 2 friggin' days. There is literally no used home inventory, new builds are out 12 - 15 months...they can't build them fast enough, literally. Homes that were built for $400k 3 years ago are now selling for $600k - $650k.

A good friend of mine owns a Real Estage Brokerage company with 300 Agents in it...he is saying the market is driven by a lot of business owners in the north blue states selling their northern homes to relocate to FL. I sell to residential home owners an echo that thought...a ton of people moving out...have had it with taxes and political climate...as well as the weather to be sure.

I hear RE all over is busting at the seams though...but the cities are dying as nobody wants to live in congested areas hence values are down there.

So glad I moved years ago!

- IonSabres


https://www.columbusunder...s-according-to-zillow-we1

Regardless, it's happening in a lot of places and I for one am not at all comfortable with the social-instability rampant everywhere right now.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 8 @ 10:22 PM ET
You can buy a brand new Marrano home in a new sub division down the street from me for the low, low price of $500k

Also, solid rant work

- Hank Balling

Ugh, I know, East Aurora is such an elitist homestead but it's one of the few truly quaint towns in the Western New York area in my opinion and it's just gorgeous over there. Always loved Emery Park, too. Probably my favorite park back home. It's always so chill and there's never anyone there except for people playing disk golf, which honestly kind of ruined it for me a little.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 8 @ 10:27 PM ET
Ugh, I know, East Aurora is such an elitist homestead but it's one of the few truly quaint towns in the Western New York area in my opinion and it's just gorgeous over there. Always loved Emery Park, too. Probably my favorite park back home. It's always so chill and there's never anyone there except for people playing disk golf, which honestly kind of ruined it for me a little.
- BeadyEyedDouche


I like it here in EA. I loved living on the west side too though

We bought an extremely dated fixer upper a year and a half ago before the market truly went bonkers batpoop crazy. Couldn't find anything reasonable on the west side in the city
Da_Cashman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.18.2011

Jun 8 @ 10:33 PM ET
I can’t really disagree with much of what you have said here for the most part actually 🤝

I currently live in Milton (border of Mississauga and Oakville). Obviously being in Milton I’m a quick drive to Toronto so the location aspect is definitely a plus.

What I do find though is in a city like Milton all they are doing are building housing that’s pretty much on top of each other, and due to paying for the accessibility to the 401/QEW and the location to the GTA, there is so much traffic within the city it is unbelievable. There is also no entertainment value unless you are commuting to Toronto or Mississauga every weekend for the most part. Most of the new builds every where in close proximity to myself have a backyard big enough to fit a shed. No spending on anything to actually do though within Milton at all. It has the same entertainment venues the city had when it had 1/3rd the population.

I can either get an apartment/condo for $500-600K or spend the same amount and get a 3 bedroom house in London, in some instances a 4 bedroom.

I believe many people are moving from the GTA to out to Western Ontario due to remote working capabilities and the ability to double their property sizes and still put a few hundred thousand in the bank account. I know my parents would have themselves if it weren’t for my father working in the service industry and having to be within driving distance to Pearson airport area in Toronto.

With interest rates this low, it’s causing rampant speculation everywhere.

Canada’s housing market is much, much hotter than quite possibly anywhere else and it’s due to constant foreign investment (mostly money laundering )

- Pegullaville


Also, they never built/build enough houses. a friend of mine is an economist at Western and he discusses this all the time on Twitter. dr mike moffat you d you want to look into it.

I could not live anywhere near Toronto. Too much traffic and too small of properties. Gross.
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Also, they never built/build enough houses. a friend of mine is an economist at Western and he discusses this all the time on Twitter. dr mike moffat you d you want to look into it.

I could not live anywhere near Toronto. Too much traffic and too small of properties. Gross.

- Da_Cashman


What I wonder is what is going to happen when things reopen, will people start to gravitate back from Western Ontario back to the GTA because they have to go back into the office ?

Will people commute ? Is working from home going to be a permanent solution for most people working remotely at the moment ?

The housing bubble is going to pop at some point, when is anyone’s guess however. Could be anywhere between a few months to a couple of years dependant on reopenings and fiscal policies.
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