I like the 5.8 and 7.1 mill ideas...but....Letang is probably worth more than Geno right now....hard to say....Geno looked machino for a nice while after he got his conditioning back before getting injured. Hoped to see him getting a proper offseason and training camp in this summer but that's out the window...
- MattStrat

Geno has also made like $45M more than Letang already.

Needed a new GM more than anything
- Feds91Stammer

hahah yeah one of those wouldnt of went astray 2018 to 2020 for the Pens...arguably even 2017...

Geno has also made like $45M more than Letang already.
- Feds91Stammer

Solid point

Zucker won't be there in September... and I'm not really feeling the Kunitz comparison...
- MattStrat

Zucker is no Kunitz. Then few players are.

Of all our wings, I see Zucker as the most physical with good hands and has a bit of a mean streak. All the attributes I liked in Kunitz. No wing we have comes close to playing the game the way Kunitz did. Zucker is the only wing with any type of mean streak, the rest are just pretty boys.

Tanev is nuts, he's in a category all his own.

Crosby must rub off on him... incredibly mature for him to basically say "this contract is what I was worth at that point in time" and not have any kind of regret at all when he talks about it. Not to mention, it sends a pretty strong message to Landeskog and Makar that you can make really good money without burying the team like McDavid and the Toronto guys have done.

I love Mackinnon... I'd be pretty happy if the Avs won the cup this year.

For the Pens this is something Letang and Malkin need to come to grips with. For sure they could get contracts matching their current cap hit in free agency.... are they willing to take a 20% haircut on that? That can be the difference between being able to bring in a game changer vs a depth forward.

I think Crosby might play until he is 40... I could totally see him doing something crazy like signing for $1M per year when this contract is up if they still have a chance at winning. That would be the ultimate Crosby thing to do.
- MacPatty

McKinnon is prob my favorite to watch outside the Pens, a good o'le fellow east coast boy...but I think the Knights might have something to say about him hoisting this season. The Knights have made the Avs look like a junior team the past two games. What a tilt that will be this eve.

Remember Tanner from the Yotes blog?


https://editorinleaf.com/...le-leafs-acceptable-loss/

Geno should get an extension and both retire together as Penguins.
- Barnaby36

Even if he wants 10+? Really want to pay a guy over 35 who is banged up all the time?

I'm pretty sure everyone here grasps this...my issue with it this postseason, up until a few games ago anyway, is the Isles weren't playing that way most of the games this postseason but still winning more than not. They weren't playing that well, and the usual Isles way, down the stretch of the regular season and it carried into the playoffs vs the Pens. They are getting better as the games go on it seems though.
- MattStrat

Total agree, I don't think the Isles played their best vs. the Pens at all. I've seen them play stifling hockey and that wasn't it this post season vs. Pens.

Even if he wants 10+? Really want to pay a guy over 35 who is banged up all the time?
- sammy87

Geno gets the business side. While I don't expect him to take a massive discount, I don't think he's going to put the Pens in position where they can't afford to try and build a team to win.

Geno gets the business side. While I don't expect him to take a massive discount, I don't think he's going to put the Pens in position where they can't afford to try and build a team to win.
- Rinosaur

You dont know that. He's won everything here. This will be his last contract. The last 5 seasons he's missed 42%, 21%, 18%, 5%, and 25% of the season. With a weak supporting cast, it just puts that much more pressure on a 34 yr old Crosby to carry the load. If he takes a cut, great! But he should max out while he can.

Remember Tanner from the Yotes blog?


https://editorinleaf.com/...le-leafs-acceptable-loss/
- MattStrat

The racist dude that wrote about the leafs in the coyotes blog you mean?

You dont know that. He's won everything here. This will be his last contract. The last 5 seasons he's missed 42%, 21%, 18%, 5%, and 25% of the season. With a weak supporting cast, it just puts that much more pressure on a 34 yr old Crosby to carry the load. If he takes a cut, great! But he should max out while he can.
- sammy87

You don’t know that.

The racist dude that wrote about the leafs in the coyotes blog you mean?
- Feds91Stammer

Yeah, the one that was morally superior to everyone then used the term Uncle Toms and got the boot hahaha

You dont know that. He's won everything here. This will be his last contract. The last 5 seasons he's missed 42%, 21%, 18%, 5%, and 25% of the season. With a weak supporting cast, it just puts that much more pressure on a 34 yr old Crosby to carry the load. If he takes a cut, great! But he should max out while he can.
- sammy87

By that logic Geno can make way more playing in Russia, so why doesn't he just go back there? They'll pay him all the money in the world and it's widely known he wants to go back to Russia at some point.

By that logic Geno can make way more playing in Russia, so why doesn't he just go back there? They'll pay him all the money in the world and it's widely known he wants to go back to Russia at some point.
- Rinosaur

You’re legitimately engaging with that donkey? You’re better than that.

You’re legitimately engaging with that donkey? You’re better than that.
- Feds91Stammer

I'm just waiting on j.boyd to post the clown gif lol

I like the 5.8 and 7.1 mill ideas...but....Letang is probably worth more than Geno right now....hard to say....Geno looked machino for a nice while after he got his conditioning back before getting injured. Hoped to see him getting a proper offseason and training camp in this summer but that's out the window...
- MattStrat

Oh for sure. I just think they'll amount to at least $16M in our cap situation tbh. Team first mentality!

Even if he wants 10+? Really want to pay a guy over 35 who is banged up all the time?
- sammy87

Not happening lol I could see him asking for his current $9.5M salary though. We should offer $8M max.

You dont know that. He's won everything here. This will be his last contract. The last 5 seasons he's missed 42%, 21%, 18%, 5%, and 25% of the season. With a weak supporting cast, it just puts that much more pressure on a 34 yr old Crosby to carry the load. If he takes a cut, great! But he should max out while he can.
- sammy87

So looking at FA goalies. I'm not sure which ones the Pens should take a look at or what they may cost.

-Drieger: Possible late bloomer. 27 years old with a very small sample size. How much did he inflate his value this year? IMO the biggest gamble.

-Mrazek: Wildly inconsistent, but when he's on he's awesome. He's an upgrade over Jarry, but is he THAT much of an upgrade? I don't know I'd go more than $2.5M for one year. No idea what he will command. Mrazek seems like the safest gamble, but does he really move the needle?

-Ullmark: A diamond in the rough? His numbers are impressive relative to playing in Buffalo. Never played a full season, so is he worth gambling on as a starter? I'd think he comes in at $2M or less for a one year deal.

-Smith: Definitely the second biggest gamble to Drieger given his age, but it's hard to ignore what he did behind a poop defense in EDM.

-Rask: I can't imagine Boston lets him go and even if they did, I still think teams will overpay for him

-Andresen: No thank you

-Raanta: Meh

Looking at trades:

-MAF: Does Vegas move on from him regardless of what happens? Can the Pens get him with Vegas retaining half?

-Lehner: Does Vegas move on from him and stay with MAF? What would he cost the Pens.

-Quick: Does he have anything left if he played behind a better team? LA would obviously have to eat half.

-Kuemper: A Jarry/Kuemper swap? I like him the most I think out of any option that makes sense financially along with what he may cost the Pens in trade.

Total agree, I don't think the Isles played their best vs. the Pens at all. I've seen them play stifling hockey and that wasn't it this post season vs. Pens.
- j.boyd919

Yeah Sorokin and Jarry carried them over us and now the skaters are beating the Bruins. You can't get lucky if you aren't good, so I'm definitely open to the idea that they're legit. But the Islanders looking legit now doesn't change the fact that we should have beat them if Jarry didn't fall on his face.

So looking at FA goalies. I'm not sure which ones the Pens should take a look at or what they may cost.

-Drieger: Possible late bloomer. 27 years old with a very small sample size. How much did he inflate his value this year? IMO the biggest gamble.

-Mrazek: Wildly inconsistent, but when he's on he's awesome. He's an upgrade over Jarry, but is he THAT much of an upgrade? I don't know I'd go more than $2.5M for one year. No idea what he will command. Mrazek seems like the safest gamble, but does he really move the needle?

-Ullmark: A diamond in the rough? His numbers are impressive relative to playing in Buffalo. Never played a full season, so is he worth gambling on as a starter? I'd think he comes in at $2M or less for a one year deal.

-Smith: Definitely the second biggest gamble to Drieger given his age, but it's hard to ignore what he did behind a poop defense in EDM.

-Rask: I can't imagine Boston lets him go and even if they did, I still think teams will overpay for him

-Andresen: No thank you

-Raanta: Meh

Looking at trades:

-MAF: Does Vegas move on from him regardless of what happens? Can the Pens get him with Vegas retaining half?

-Lehner: Does Vegas move on from him and stay with MAF? What would he cost the Pens.

-Quick: Does he have anything left if he played behind a better team? LA would obviously have to eat half.

-Kuemper: A Jarry/Kuemper swap? I like him the most I think out of any option that makes sense financially along with what he may cost the Pens in trade.
- Rinosaur

Mrazek is the easy answer IMO.

You dont know that. He's won everything here. This will be his last contract. The last 5 seasons he's missed 42%, 21%, 18%, 5%, and 25% of the season. With a weak supporting cast, it just puts that much more pressure on a 34 yr old Crosby to carry the load. If he takes a cut, great! But he should max out while he can.
- sammy87

You also don't know he'll demand a raise. You've been beating this anti-Malkin drum since I joined like a decade ago and he's done nothing but prove you wrong. At this point, the more adamant you are he's gonna demand $10 mil, the more positive I am he'll sign for the vet minimum because you're always absurdly wrong about him.

So looking at FA goalies. I'm not sure which ones the Pens should take a look at or what they may cost.

-Drieger: Possible late bloomer. 27 years old with a very small sample size. How much did he inflate his value this year? IMO the biggest gamble.

-Mrazek: Wildly inconsistent, but when he's on he's awesome. He's an upgrade over Jarry, but is he THAT much of an upgrade? I don't know I'd go more than $2.5M for one year. No idea what he will command. Mrazek seems like the safest gamble, but does he really move the needle?

-Ullmark: A diamond in the rough? His numbers are impressive relative to playing in Buffalo. Never played a full season, so is he worth gambling on as a starter? I'd think he comes in at $2M or less for a one year deal.

-Smith: Definitely the second biggest gamble to Drieger given his age, but it's hard to ignore what he did behind a poop defense in EDM.

-Rask: I can't imagine Boston lets him go and even if they did, I still think teams will overpay for him

-Andresen: No thank you

-Raanta: Meh

Looking at trades:

-MAF: Does Vegas move on from him regardless of what happens? Can the Pens get him with Vegas retaining half?

-Lehner: Does Vegas move on from him and stay with MAF? What would he cost the Pens.

-Quick: Does he have anything left if he played behind a better team? LA would obviously have to eat half.

-Kuemper: A Jarry/Kuemper swap? I like him the most I think out of any option that makes sense financially along with what he may cost the Pens in trade.
- Rinosaur

I see no point in spending the money or assets upgrading from Jarry unless it’s someone potentially elite.

So I think you have Rask as a UFA option though he tends to choke in big games.

You have Varlamov if someone can broker a 3 team deal for you.

You have Bishop if you want to go high risk.

So looking at FA goalies. I'm not sure which ones the Pens should take a look at or what they may cost.

-Drieger: Possible late bloomer. 27 years old with a very small sample size. How much did he inflate his value this year? IMO the biggest gamble.

-Mrazek: Wildly inconsistent, but when he's on he's awesome. He's an upgrade over Jarry, but is he THAT much of an upgrade? I don't know I'd go more than $2.5M for one year. No idea what he will command. Mrazek seems like the safest gamble, but does he really move the needle?

-Ullmark: A diamond in the rough? His numbers are impressive relative to playing in Buffalo. Never played a full season, so is he worth gambling on as a starter? I'd think he comes in at $2M or less for a one year deal.

-Smith: Definitely the second biggest gamble to Drieger given his age, but it's hard to ignore what he did behind a poop defense in EDM.

-Rask: I can't imagine Boston lets him go and even if they did, I still think teams will overpay for him

-Andresen: No thank you

-Raanta: Meh

Looking at trades:

-MAF: Does Vegas move on from him regardless of what happens? Can the Pens get him with Vegas retaining half?

-Lehner: Does Vegas move on from him and stay with MAF? What would he cost the Pens.

-Quick: Does he have anything left if he played behind a better team? LA would obviously have to eat half.

-Kuemper: A Jarry/Kuemper swap? I like him the most I think out of any option that makes sense financially along with what he may cost the Pens in trade.
- Rinosaur

If the Pens has chose to pay Fluery and keep him I wonder what impact it would have had to this years roster.