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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 7 @ 5:09 PM ET
what does a "good hockey man" even mean. What makes him a good hockey man. This saying is stupid.
- Codes1087


You’re a good poster
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 7 @ 5:10 PM ET
How do you know he is?

Most media who deal with him face to face say that Jim's a good hockey man and a good person

- Nucker101


Answer a question with a question? Tell me how you know Benning isn't a liar?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 7 @ 5:10 PM ET
what does a "good hockey man" even mean. What makes him a good hockey man. This saying is stupid.
- Codes1087


He has years of experience as a player, scout and in management. He's been involved with hockey during his entire life and understands what it takes to win on and off the ice. He's well respected in the hockey community and is well connected.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 7 @ 5:10 PM ET
Answer a question with a question? Tell me how you know Benning isn't a liar?
- VanHockeyGuy


I have no evidence that tell me that he is a lair. So why would I assume that he is?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 7 @ 5:12 PM ET
He has years of experience as a player, scout and in management. He's been involved with hockey during his entire life and understands what it takes to win on and off the ice. He's well respected in the hockey community and is well connected.
- Nucker101


so we are basing this label on years served rather than accomplishments? has he understood what it takes to win while GM of the Canucks, cause if so, hes a bad hockey man
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 7 @ 5:12 PM ET
He has years of experience as a player, scout and in management. He's been involved with hockey during his entire life and understands what it takes to win on and off the ice. He's well respected in the hockey community and is well connected.
- Nucker101


Including lying.

There have been two times (David Booth and Pearson) where JB has stated to the media "we've contacted their agents" about getting them resigned, and both agents (and Booth in an interview recently) came out and said, "No, he has not."
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jun 7 @ 5:13 PM ET


You’re right, the CHL is no place for anyone who’s been drafted by an NHL team.

- 1970vintage


hmm is the learning disability kicking in or did you lose sight that the call was made to expose them to a higher level? They needed the AHL.

Too bad the Canucks didn't have a relationship with a Euro team. They did do so with OJ later. But the Salo/Finn connection was unique. Just like those tweeners not ready for NHL but beyond jr learning.

Seems since JB scouting favors more college and Euro picks to avoid this jr block to AHL development problem.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 7 @ 5:14 PM ET
so we are basing this label on years served rather than accomplishments? has he understood what it takes to win while GM of the Canucks, cause if so, hes a bad hockey man
- Codes1087


Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 7 @ 5:15 PM ET
hmm is the learning disability kicking in or did you lose sight that the call was made to expose them to a higher level? They needed the AHL.

Too bad the Canucks didn't have a relationship with a Euro team. They did do so with OJ later. But the Salo/Finn connection was unique. Just like those tweeners not ready for NHL but beyond jr learning.

Seems since JB scouting favors more college and Euro picks to avoid this jr block to AHL development problem.

- NuckUp


why are you so confrontational? people can have different opinions without you talking down to people.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 7 @ 5:16 PM ET

- Nucker101



you never answered my questions about his tenure as Canucks GM and still being a "good hockey man"

and..

Beagle has a cup, he must be a good hockey player
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 7 @ 5:16 PM ET
Including lying.

There have been two times (David Booth and Pearson) where JB has stated to the media "we've contacted their agents" about getting them resigned, and both agents (and Booth in an interview recently) came out and said, "No, he has not."

- NewYorkNuck


Communications methods aren't 100% reliable sometimes, who knows if maybe the agent just failed to receive Jim's attempted communication? The Pearson deal did get worked out after all.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 7 @ 5:16 PM ET
why are you so confrontational? people can have different opinions without you talking down to people.
- Codes1087


(He's projecting)
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 7 @ 5:16 PM ET
Beagle has a cup, he must be a good hockey player
- Codes1087


I thought he played well this year when he was healthy
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 7 @ 5:18 PM ET
I thought he played well this year when he was healthy
- Nucker101


that 1 goal, 5 points in 30 games is totally worth 3 million.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 7 @ 5:20 PM ET
Communications methods aren't 100% reliable sometimes, who knows if maybe the agent just failed to receive Jim's attempted communication? The Pearson deal did get worked out after all.
- Nucker101


That's true. I mean, what is reality? If we're living in a post-truth world, does lying even exist? Every fact is an alternative fact, therefore no facts are facts and communication methods are open to interpretation. If you view time in a non-linear fashion, JB told the truth from the past into the future, and the rebuild is already complete because in the future (which is an unyielding constant) is already there.

Man, you and JB are just so philosophical.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jun 7 @ 5:22 PM ET
Going back to junior after your draft or draft +1 year does not have any correlation with picking up "bad habits" from playing lesser competition. They set a draft eligible age for a reason, and the same goes with the CHL age group. Saying otherwise is silly.
- Codes1087


Like thinking all development is the same? Guess reason of CHL greed/protectionist measures to keep star players with them and not AHL club controlled development is cool for you.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 7 @ 5:23 PM ET
hmm is the learning disability kicking in or did you lose sight that the call was made to expose them to a higher level? They needed the AHL.

Too bad the Canucks didn't have a relationship with a Euro team. They did do so with OJ later. But the Salo/Finn connection was unique. Just like those tweeners not ready for NHL but beyond jr learning.

Seems since JB scouting favors more college and Euro picks to avoid this jr block to AHL development problem.

- NuckUp


Sorry, I’m too stupid to understand your typing word making. I humbly bow to your superior intellect, you are so smart.

In the immortal words of Mel Blanc

What a maroon.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 7 @ 5:27 PM ET
that 1 goal, 5 points in 30 games is totally worth 3 million.
- Codes1087


Good on the PK, good at face-offs, sound defensively, decent on the forecheck, one of Green's top Pk'ers. Leader in the locker room according to management/coaches.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 7 @ 5:28 PM ET
Like thinking all development is the same? Guess reason of CHL greed/protectionist measures to keep star players with them and not AHL club controlled development is cool for you.
- NuckUp


CHL Greed????

this isn't about greed, this is about development, this is about safety for the kids. These are still kids. Throwing a kid to the wolves and playing him in the AHL immediately out of his draft eligible year has nothing to do with Greed, it has everything to do with safety and development. Its the same reason it goes Initiation, Novice, Atom, Pee Wee, Bantom, Midget.... Its to keep kids developing within their age groups. The CHL is capped at 18/19 for a reason. If a kid goes back, its not a slight at him at all, very few kids make the NHL right out of being drafted. It has nothing to do with Greed....
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jun 7 @ 5:29 PM ET
why are you so confrontational? people can have different opinions without you talking down to people.
- Codes1087


you must have missed the initial 'learn to read' infraction. But great job picking up the retaliation retort. I guess my angle required a talking down.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 7 @ 5:30 PM ET
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jun 7 @ 5:33 PM ET
(He's projecting)
- NewYorkNuck


you're deflecting from your own shortcomings?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 7 @ 5:35 PM ET
you must have missed the initial 'learn to read' infraction. But great job picking up the retaliation retort. I guess my angle required a talking down.
- NuckUp


i just read the post that you posted that on. He didn't say that?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:37 PM ET
I have no evidence that tell me that he is a lair. So why would I assume that he is?
- Nucker101

Well you had no evidence with Schmidt but that didn't stop you....
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 7 @ 5:40 PM ET
i just read the post that you posted that on. He didn't say that?
- Codes1087


I said learn to read. I suppose I should have said learn to interpret.
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