Luke 1:37
For nothing will be impossible with God.”
- hello it's me 2050

stop messaging me from your banned account. we aren't friends.

Can someone please outline with a very basic explanation as to why we need Phil Kessel again. If you say to get rid of along term big contract for a short term contact, I understand. Anything else, you’ll probably need to speak slowly for me to understand.

stop messaging me from your banned account. we aren't friends.
- Ftown19125

2 Peter 2:3
And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

Can someone please outline with a very basic explanation as to why we need Phil Kessel again. If you say to get rid of along term big contract for a short term contact, I understand. Anything else, you’ll probably need to speak slowly for me to understand.
- SuperSchennBros

As any one person say they need Phil Kessel? Just a simple yes or no answer will suffice.

As any one person say they need Phil Kessel? Just a simple yes or no answer will suffice.
- hello it's me 2050

you might want to ask the question in a way so that it makes sense, so he can try to answer it. idiot.

you might want to ask the question in a way so that it makes sense, so he can try to answer it. idiot.
- Ftown19125

Timothy 3:13

But evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

Can someone please outline with a very basic explanation as to why we need Phil Kessel again. If you say to get rid of along term big contract for a short term contact, I understand. Anything else, you’ll probably need to speak slowly for me to understand.
- SuperSchennBros

You're like an ex-wife who keeps draggin up old shit just for the sake of being unhappy

https://twitter.com/Flyer...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=


the incest continues.

Clicks my dude, clicks.
- Tomahawk

I been going back and forth with SanFartilipo on Twitter about this lol

I been going back and forth with SanFartilipo on Twitter about this lol
- arichardson22

are you phlthy_rich?

Are you kidding? Jake was one of the worst 200 foot players in the league last year!
- jd250

Not sure I communicated the year
Clearly to you. Not this year. The previous year. He did have a better 200 foot player. Metrics, critics and eye test all agreed on that.

are you phlthy_rich?

- MBFlyerfan

Yup!

Not sure I communicated the year
Clearly to you. Not this year. The previous year. He did have a better 200 foot player. Metrics, critics and eye test all agreed on that.
- peesinwind

Yes, the year before he was better, but you must look at the entire body of work and judge based on that, not a single season. Jake is nothing more than a pass happy, pond hockey, turnover machine. Its more than time the Flyers got out from under him.

Yes, the year before he was better, but you must look at the entire body of work and judge based on that, not a single season. Jake is nothing more than a pass happy, pond hockey, turnover machine. Its more than time the Flyers got out from under him.
- jd250

Not a lot of love on here for Jake. He is a top six NHL hockey play on just about every team with top line and power play abilities. I agree that he has a better pass than a shot. And sometimes those passes end up on the other stick. Many of his passes end up points for the Flyers. He is also tough on the puck in the O zone. Thought AV got some great 200 foot work out of him AV’s first year. Not so much this year.

His contract sucks and made worse by the flat cap. Wouldn’t have been a big issue if the cap was moving up.

With that said I like players like Coots way better than guys like Jake. But you need all kinds to have a good unit.

Can someone please outline with a very basic explanation as to why we need Phil Kessel again. If you say to get rid of along term big contract for a short term contact, I understand. Anything else, you’ll probably need to speak slowly for me to understand.
- SuperSchennBros

Because the only thing keeping this team from being an instant dynasty is Jake Voracek?

2 Timothy 3:7
Always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth.
- hello it's me 2050

You are all over the Bible...Old Testament and New.

Since I'm a hypocrite fake Christian I like to quote the Old testament too....

Leviticus 18:24-25
"Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sins, and the land vomited out its inhabatants."

I love Old Testament God he was tough but love how I can have multiple wives.
Viva Fake Christians!!!

SanFilipio getting awfully defensive

SanFilipio getting awfully defensive
- arichardson22

its quite enjoyable

Can someone please outline with a very basic explanation as to why we need Phil Kessel again. If you say to get rid of along term big contract for a short term contact, I understand. Anything else, you’ll probably need to speak slowly for me to understand.
- SuperSchennBros

I'd rather have a guy with a heart like Blake Coleman in TB. Maybe 2.5-3 million a guy that can play up and down the lineup.
Get Rannta as a backup.
Look for value D man that will be 4 mill range with upside trade NP for him...

Not a lot of love on here for Jake. He is a top six NHL hockey play on just about every team with top line and power play abilities. I agree that he has a better pass than a shot. And sometimes those passes end up on the other stick. Many of his passes end up points for the Flyers. He is also tough on the puck in the O zone. Thought AV got some great 200 foot work out of him AV’s first year. Not so much this year.

His contract sucks and made worse by the flat cap. Wouldn’t have been a big issue if the cap was moving up.

With that said I like players like Coots way better than guys like Jake. But you need all kinds to have a good unit.
- peesinwind

See, there in lies the rub. So many people make the mistake in thinking the Flyers' top players are also top players in the league. Well I don't believe they are. Just compare the Flyers' top paid forwards: Giroux, Hayes, Voracek and JVR to other contending team's top forward group. Right now, would you take these Flyers core players over any of these other groups?

Capitals: Ovechkin, Mantha, Backstrom
Penguins: Crosby, Guentzel, Malkin
Bruins: Marchand, Bergeron, Pastrnak
Lightning: Kucherov, Point, Stamkos
Knights: Stone, Pacioretty, Marchessault
Avalanche: Landeskog, MacKinnon, Rantanen
Jets: Scheifele, Ehlers, Connor
Oilers: Draisaitl, McDavid , well does it really matter?

At one time, sure I would agree Giroux and Jake were top forwards, but they are not any more. JVR and Hayes were always considered next tier down from the top forwards in the league. To me this is as big of a problem for the Flyers as getting a top paring RHS defenseman.

Because the only thing keeping this team from being an instant dynasty is Jake Voracek?

- Tomahawk

We need Kessel to rid ourselves of Jake's contract. We can always waive Kessel or trade him at the deadline when his salary is pro-rated. Other than this reason, I would never want that stiff on this team. Jake is bad enough.

See, there in lies the rub. So many people make the mistake in thinking the Flyers' top players are also top players in the league. Well I don't believe they are. Just compare the Flyers' top paid forwards: Giroux, Hayes, Voracek and JVR to other contending team's top forward group. Right now, would you take these Flyers core players over any of these other groups?

Capitals: Ovechkin, Mantha, Backstrom
Penguins: Crosby, Guentzel, Malkin
Bruins: Marchand, Bergeron, Pastrnak
Lightning: Kucherov, Point, Stamkos
Knights: Stone, Pacioretty, Marchessault
Avalanche: Landeskog, MacKinnon, Rantanen
Jets: Scheifele, Ehlers, Connor
Oilers: Draisaitl, McDavid , well does it really matter?

At one time, sure I would agree Giroux and Jake were top forwards, but they are not any more. JVR and Hayes were always considered next tier down from the top forwards in the league. To me this is as big of a problem for the Flyers as getting a top paring RHS defenseman.
- jd250

I completely agree. Couturier+Giroux+whoever are not in that league. Further, we have no one in the system who is going to be that fast skating great playmaker the modern game favors. Frost apparently projected as a 2C according to his most ardent booster here, even before his injury, .

But, tell me this then. If you believe what you wrote above, and you get whoever as RHD, and by your admission, this does not raise the club to be at par with the clubs you have mentioned, how do you propose to bridge the gap to get to be at the level of those clubs? That RHD will likely drop your drafting position from 13ish to 18-20ish. Your salary cap will be maxed out.

Just keep drafting in that spot and hope someone pans out? How did that hope work out last 10 years?

Once you answer that question, the logic of trading Couturier (which will both get you high drafts directly, and indirectly by improving our own draft position) will not seem quite so "asinine."

Button has the Flyers taking Zachary L’Heureux in his mock draft.

Inevitable comparisons to Brad Marchand. Undersized, hard-nosed/reckless, some two-way ability, good shot.

Button has the Flyers taking Zachary L’Heureux in his mock draft.

Inevitable comparisons to Brad Marchand. Undersized, hard-nosed/reckless, some two-way ability, good shot.
- Tomahawk

oh good so another konecny