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Viscious attack??? Did he use a knife, ax, pitchfork, machette or brass knuckles???
It was a clean check He did not even use his stick. I have seen a lot worse with noting called. Put a dress on that sissy |
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2Real
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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the people that think this hit is bad are the same liberals that are scared of cow farts |
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Kcannon98
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Its a textbook Charging Penalty involving an injury..... Its suspension worthy. Not rest of series worthy though like EK suggests - xShoot4WarAmpsx
If this is a "textbook charging penalty" that's "suspension worthy," why not show us some examples of other "textbook charging penalties" similar to this play that resulted in a suspension. |
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hunglikeapuck
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Punta Cana Joined: 07.14.2009
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By this standard every hit Ovechkin throw would be suspendible. - Doogs
Do players get called for charging?
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Kcannon98
New York Islanders |
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Do players get called for charging?
Have any of those players ever been suspended for charging?
Referees failing to call penalties on Ovechkin is irrelevant. - hunglikeapuck
Charging penalties are obviously called here and there but DOPS doesn't suspend for "distance traveled." They suspend for leaving the ice. All of their video decisions are on their website. |
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Not_Yan
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Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes. Joined: 04.19.2013
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the people that think this hit is bad are the same liberals that are scared of cow farts - 2Real
Cool story bro |
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Kcannon98
New York Islanders |
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CHARGING:
Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of
distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A
“charge” may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal
frame or in open ice.
Pretty sure he travelled have the length of the ice to make the hit. - Nasty_Duck
When was the last player to be suspended for "distance traveled?"
Hint - It's never happened. |
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Izzo
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 12.20.2018
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You're going on that you know more then someone else.
You both have different opinions.
And in this regard you both have accurate points. - aries1976
I get what you are trying to say but it doesn't have an application in this context. The issue is about a real rule about a real event that the people who are the experts have all said was charging. Looking at the rules it's clear that this is true. Telling people who refuse to comprehend that rule because they "just don't want to" that they're wrong isn't two people with different opinions. Just as one person saying 2+2=4 and another 2+2=5 isn't simply two people with different opinions. |
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Kcannon98
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I get what you are trying to say but it doesn't have an application in this context. The issue is about a real rule about a real event that the people who are the experts have all said was charging. Looking at the rules it's clear that this is true. Telling people who refuse to comprehend that rule because they "just don't want to" that they're wrong isn't two people with different opinions. Just as one person saying 2+2=4 and another 2+2=5 isn't simply two people with different opinions. - Izzo
The "experts" (DOPS) have never suspended a player for "distance traveled." EVERY charging suspension had to do with leaving the ice. Every single one of them.
With that said, DOPS is extremely inconsistent and the NHL caves to social media pressure just about as bad as the NFL does so I wouldn't be surprised if they do it here.
No rules were broken. That's obvious. But DOPS has a mind of it's own and is extremely unpredictable.
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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Viscious attack??? Did he use a knife, ax, pitchfork, machette or brass knuckles???
It was a clean check He did not even use his stick. I have seen a lot worse with noting called. Put a dress on that sissy - broncohorvath
another (frank)ing brilliant argument, this one from broncohorvath.
he didn't use his stick, so the hit can't be dirty.
you hear that Todd Bertuzzi? you're off the hook!!
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braidan
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Location: State of Corruption. Joined: 09.27.2006
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The "experts" (DOPS) have never suspended a player for "distance traveled." EVERY charging suspension had to do with leaving the ice. Every single one of them.
With that said, DOPS is extremely inconsistent and the NHL caves to social media pressure just about as bad as the NFL does so I wouldn't be surprised if they do it here.
No rules were broken. That's obvious. But DOPS has a mind of it's own and is extremely unpredictable. - Kcannon98
No rules were broken or no rules that you care to accept were broken?
It has been pointed out to you many times what rules were broken but you refuse to acknowledge the information.
Why is it that people who GET PAID to analyze games ALL seem to agree that it was charging yet you can't see it?
You must know the rulebook better than the guys who:
A have played the game at a professional level
B have been analyzing games for years
C make a nice living educating the rest of us on rules and plays
I can't wait to see you on TV and I can say I knew him when he was just spouting off on HB |
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Wolfpack5
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I mean just my two cents. Could you make an argument for “distance traveled” sure could you also say distance traveled in this case is a result of a player back checking to stop a goal sure. Is it a bit dirty yeah. It’s a textbook hit with a unfortunate result. If Scheffile doesn’t stop moving his feet and reaches out with the stick he might stop the puck. But honestly that’s a lot of what if’s. At the end of the day my only problem is the difference between regular season and playoff hockey officiating. With the major thing being the inconsistency of playoff officiating. By the rulebook it’s probably a minor penalty due to the after effects with a possible fine. I see a 2+ game suspension from DOPS with a successful appeal after 1 game served because the rulebook clearly doesn’t matter in the playoffs. |
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Season Ticket Holder Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON Joined: 07.11.2007
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No rules were broken or no rules that you care to accept were broken?
It has been pointed out to you many times what rules were broken but you refuse to acknowledge the information.
Why is it that people who GET PAID to analyze games ALL seem to agree that it was charging yet you can't see it?
You must know the rulebook better than the guys who:
A have played the game at a professional level
B have been analyzing games for years
C make a nice living educating the rest of us on rules and plays
I can't wait to see you on TV and I can say I knew him when he was just spouting off on HB - braidan
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cutty218
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Glenolden, PA Joined: 01.14.2015
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He didn’t “attack” anyone you dope |
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Kcannon98
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No rules were broken or no rules that you care to accept were broken?
It has been pointed out to you many times what rules were broken but you refuse to acknowledge the information.
Why is it that people who GET PAID to analyze games ALL seem to agree that it was charging yet you can't see it?
You must know the rulebook better than the guys who:
A have played the game at a professional level
B have been analyzing games for years
C make a nice living educating the rest of us on rules and plays
I can't wait to see you on TV and I can say I knew him when he was just spouting off on HB - braidan
Like the guys on Spittin Chicklets? Or Avery? Or Commadore? Or DOPS? DOPS has never suspended a person for "distance traveled." Not saying they won't this time because the NHL caves to social media pressure just like the NBA and the NFL, but it's never happened before. And if it does, say goodbye to every ounce of forechecking in the NHL for this point forward. Literally every play with a check could be "distance traveled." |
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At most Scheifele deserves one game. |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Kcannon98
New York Islanders |
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https://www.nhl.com/video/byron-suspended-three-games/t-277440360/c-64982503
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - eichiefs9
Using YOUR video, skip to 37 seconds and listen. "Launches UP." He was suspended for leaving his feet. He was NOT suspended for "distance traveled." |
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https://www.nhl.com/video/byron-suspended-three-games/t-277440360/c-64982503
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - eichiefs9
Yep. Pretty much there you go.
No charging, should be no suspension.
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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5 games would be fair - DonCherries
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IF Scheifele is not suspended, I'm going be able to hear the Montreal fans crying and whining all the way down here in NH!
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Izzo
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 12.20.2018
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The "experts" (DOPS) have never suspended a player for "distance traveled." - Kcannon98
Wow nice job, you can break apart one part of the rule to fit your position. It's also cute how you left out how the referee's called it charging on the play when trying to portray that the "experts" aren't "experts". But yes you are correct, nobody has been suspended for "distance traveled", but that is one part of charging. Maybe you should think about what you type first, it's very easy to shred your argument. For instance did you know that nobody has received a high sticking penalty for only have their stick in the air? It has to come in contact with a player as well. You see how there's more than one part to these rules? So for charging you travel a large distance and... what else? You have a video there to watch it again. What else happens after Scheifele skates are large distance? I bet you won't answer that, at least not in any serious detail. |
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Kcannon98
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https://www.nhl.com/video/byron-suspended-three-games/t-277440360/c-64982503
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - eichiefs9
Is the argument now that MS left his feet and targetted the head? If so, your video is relevant. If not, your video means nothing because it has nothing to do with the hit on Evans. If anything, your video shows why the MS hit was textbook. Listen to Perros at 1:34 of the video YOU cited.
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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: disguise delimit, QC Joined: 08.28.2009
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IF Scheifele is not suspended, I'm going be able to hear the Montreal fans crying and whining all the way down here in NH! - Nh_kong
meh, we'll still hear all you morons complaining about how life is unfair and hockey is becoming softer than soccer if he does get suspended |
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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: disguise delimit, QC Joined: 08.28.2009
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Is the argument now that MS left his feet and targetted the head? If so, your video is relevant. If not, your video means nothing because it has nothing to do with the hit on Evans. If anything, your video shows why the MS hit was textbook. Listen to Perros at 1:34 of the video YOU cited. - Kcannon98
hello, YOU. YOU are 38 years old? wow, that's awesome for YOU.
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