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broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Jun 3 @ 2:25 PM ET
Viscious attack??? Did he use a knife, ax, pitchfork, machette or brass knuckles???
It was a clean check He did not even use his stick. I have seen a lot worse with noting called. Put a dress on that sissy
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 3 @ 2:27 PM ET
the people that think this hit is bad are the same liberals that are scared of cow farts
Kcannon98
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.15.2021

Jun 3 @ 2:27 PM ET
Its a textbook Charging Penalty involving an injury..... Its suspension worthy. Not rest of series worthy though like EK suggests
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


If this is a "textbook charging penalty" that's "suspension worthy," why not show us some examples of other "textbook charging penalties" similar to this play that resulted in a suspension.
hunglikeapuck
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Punta Cana
Joined: 07.14.2009

Jun 3 @ 2:27 PM ET
By this standard every hit Ovechkin throw would be suspendible.
- Doogs


Do players get called for charging?

Referees failing to call penalties on Ovechkin is irrelevant.
Kcannon98
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.15.2021

Jun 3 @ 2:33 PM ET
Do players get called for charging?
Have any of those players ever been suspended for charging?

Referees failing to call penalties on Ovechkin is irrelevant.

- hunglikeapuck



Charging penalties are obviously called here and there but DOPS doesn't suspend for "distance traveled." They suspend for leaving the ice. All of their video decisions are on their website.
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jun 3 @ 2:34 PM ET
the people that think this hit is bad are the same liberals that are scared of cow farts
- 2Real


Cool story bro
Kcannon98
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.15.2021

Jun 3 @ 2:36 PM ET
CHARGING:
Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of
distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A
“charge” may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal
frame or in open ice.

Pretty sure he travelled have the length of the ice to make the hit.

- Nasty_Duck


When was the last player to be suspended for "distance traveled?"

Hint - It's never happened.
Izzo
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 12.20.2018

Jun 3 @ 2:37 PM ET
You're going on that you know more then someone else.
You both have different opinions.
And in this regard you both have accurate points.

- aries1976


I get what you are trying to say but it doesn't have an application in this context. The issue is about a real rule about a real event that the people who are the experts have all said was charging. Looking at the rules it's clear that this is true. Telling people who refuse to comprehend that rule because they "just don't want to" that they're wrong isn't two people with different opinions. Just as one person saying 2+2=4 and another 2+2=5 isn't simply two people with different opinions.
Kcannon98
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.15.2021

Jun 3 @ 2:40 PM ET
I get what you are trying to say but it doesn't have an application in this context. The issue is about a real rule about a real event that the people who are the experts have all said was charging. Looking at the rules it's clear that this is true. Telling people who refuse to comprehend that rule because they "just don't want to" that they're wrong isn't two people with different opinions. Just as one person saying 2+2=4 and another 2+2=5 isn't simply two people with different opinions.
- Izzo


The "experts" (DOPS) have never suspended a player for "distance traveled." EVERY charging suspension had to do with leaving the ice. Every single one of them.

With that said, DOPS is extremely inconsistent and the NHL caves to social media pressure just about as bad as the NFL does so I wouldn't be surprised if they do it here.

No rules were broken. That's obvious. But DOPS has a mind of it's own and is extremely unpredictable.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 3 @ 2:43 PM ET
Viscious attack??? Did he use a knife, ax, pitchfork, machette or brass knuckles???
It was a clean check He did not even use his stick. I have seen a lot worse with noting called. Put a dress on that sissy

- broncohorvath


another (frank)ing brilliant argument, this one from broncohorvath.

he didn't use his stick, so the hit can't be dirty.

you hear that Todd Bertuzzi? you're off the hook!!
braidan
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: State of Corruption.
Joined: 09.27.2006

Jun 3 @ 2:45 PM ET
The "experts" (DOPS) have never suspended a player for "distance traveled." EVERY charging suspension had to do with leaving the ice. Every single one of them.

With that said, DOPS is extremely inconsistent and the NHL caves to social media pressure just about as bad as the NFL does so I wouldn't be surprised if they do it here.

No rules were broken. That's obvious. But DOPS has a mind of it's own and is extremely unpredictable.

- Kcannon98

No rules were broken or no rules that you care to accept were broken?
It has been pointed out to you many times what rules were broken but you refuse to acknowledge the information.
Why is it that people who GET PAID to analyze games ALL seem to agree that it was charging yet you can't see it?
You must know the rulebook better than the guys who:
A have played the game at a professional level
B have been analyzing games for years
C make a nice living educating the rest of us on rules and plays

I can't wait to see you on TV and I can say I knew him when he was just spouting off on HB
Wolfpack5
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Burlington, NC
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 3 @ 2:47 PM ET
I mean just my two cents. Could you make an argument for “distance traveled” sure could you also say distance traveled in this case is a result of a player back checking to stop a goal sure. Is it a bit dirty yeah. It’s a textbook hit with a unfortunate result. If Scheffile doesn’t stop moving his feet and reaches out with the stick he might stop the puck. But honestly that’s a lot of what if’s. At the end of the day my only problem is the difference between regular season and playoff hockey officiating. With the major thing being the inconsistency of playoff officiating. By the rulebook it’s probably a minor penalty due to the after effects with a possible fine. I see a 2+ game suspension from DOPS with a successful appeal after 1 game served because the rulebook clearly doesn’t matter in the playoffs.
Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON
Joined: 07.11.2007

Jun 3 @ 2:47 PM ET
No rules were broken or no rules that you care to accept were broken?
It has been pointed out to you many times what rules were broken but you refuse to acknowledge the information.
Why is it that people who GET PAID to analyze games ALL seem to agree that it was charging yet you can't see it?
You must know the rulebook better than the guys who:
A have played the game at a professional level
B have been analyzing games for years
C make a nice living educating the rest of us on rules and plays

I can't wait to see you on TV and I can say I knew him when he was just spouting off on HB

- braidan

cutty218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Glenolden, PA
Joined: 01.14.2015

Jun 3 @ 2:50 PM ET
He didn’t “attack” anyone you dope
Kcannon98
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.15.2021

Jun 3 @ 2:50 PM ET
No rules were broken or no rules that you care to accept were broken?
It has been pointed out to you many times what rules were broken but you refuse to acknowledge the information.
Why is it that people who GET PAID to analyze games ALL seem to agree that it was charging yet you can't see it?
You must know the rulebook better than the guys who:
A have played the game at a professional level
B have been analyzing games for years
C make a nice living educating the rest of us on rules and plays

I can't wait to see you on TV and I can say I knew him when he was just spouting off on HB

- braidan


Like the guys on Spittin Chicklets? Or Avery? Or Commadore? Or DOPS? DOPS has never suspended a person for "distance traveled." Not saying they won't this time because the NHL caves to social media pressure just like the NBA and the NFL, but it's never happened before. And if it does, say goodbye to every ounce of forechecking in the NHL for this point forward. Literally every play with a check could be "distance traveled."
islansjet
Joined: 03.13.2017

Jun 3 @ 2:50 PM ET
At most Scheifele deserves one game.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 3 @ 2:50 PM ET
Charging penalties are obviously called here and there but DOPS doesn't suspend for "distance traveled." They suspend for leaving the ice. All of their video decisions are on their website.
- Kcannon98

https://www.nhl.com/video...es/t-277440360/c-64982503

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Kcannon98
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.15.2021

Jun 3 @ 2:54 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/video/byron-suspended-three-games/t-277440360/c-64982503

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

- eichiefs9


Using YOUR video, skip to 37 seconds and listen. "Launches UP." He was suspended for leaving his feet. He was NOT suspended for "distance traveled."
Nh_kong
Joined: 09.21.2020

Jun 3 @ 2:54 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/video/byron-suspended-three-games/t-277440360/c-64982503

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

- eichiefs9



Yep. Pretty much there you go.

No charging, should be no suspension.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 3 @ 2:55 PM ET
5 games would be fair
- DonCherries

lol
Nh_kong
Joined: 09.21.2020

Jun 3 @ 2:56 PM ET
IF Scheifele is not suspended, I'm going be able to hear the Montreal fans crying and whining all the way down here in NH!


Izzo
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 12.20.2018

Jun 3 @ 2:56 PM ET
The "experts" (DOPS) have never suspended a player for "distance traveled."
- Kcannon98


Wow nice job, you can break apart one part of the rule to fit your position. It's also cute how you left out how the referee's called it charging on the play when trying to portray that the "experts" aren't "experts". But yes you are correct, nobody has been suspended for "distance traveled", but that is one part of charging. Maybe you should think about what you type first, it's very easy to shred your argument. For instance did you know that nobody has received a high sticking penalty for only have their stick in the air? It has to come in contact with a player as well. You see how there's more than one part to these rules? So for charging you travel a large distance and... what else? You have a video there to watch it again. What else happens after Scheifele skates are large distance? I bet you won't answer that, at least not in any serious detail.
Kcannon98
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.15.2021

Jun 3 @ 2:56 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/video/byron-suspended-three-games/t-277440360/c-64982503

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

- eichiefs9


Is the argument now that MS left his feet and targetted the head? If so, your video is relevant. If not, your video means nothing because it has nothing to do with the hit on Evans. If anything, your video shows why the MS hit was textbook. Listen to Perros at 1:34 of the video YOU cited.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 3 @ 2:57 PM ET
IF Scheifele is not suspended, I'm going be able to hear the Montreal fans crying and whining all the way down here in NH!
- Nh_kong


meh, we'll still hear all you morons complaining about how life is unfair and hockey is becoming softer than soccer if he does get suspended
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 3 @ 2:59 PM ET
Is the argument now that MS left his feet and targetted the head? If so, your video is relevant. If not, your video means nothing because it has nothing to do with the hit on Evans. If anything, your video shows why the MS hit was textbook. Listen to Perros at 1:34 of the video YOU cited.
- Kcannon98


hello, YOU. YOU are 38 years old? wow, that's awesome for YOU.
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