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Dewey8
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 10.24.2018

Jun 3 @ 1:56 PM ET
I dont like the hit for the simple fact schiefele skated the length of the ice and saw the entire play in front of him happening,and knew what he wanted to do.from the faceoff dot in he still had time to change his mind and poke check and not lay the sort of hit.intent was to hit the entire time and the result was a very borderline play with what could be very detrimental results for Evans.i love hockey and tough physical play in the playoffs,but nobody wants to see that kinda thing happen.players have to stop skating with their heads down and stop taking hits that they wouldnt want put on themselves.i know the game is fast,but anyone that's played knows when they got someone in the trolley tracks and can lay a huge lick on them,and if you can realize that you can realize it's not always necessary to do so.
hunglikeapuck
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Punta Cana
Joined: 07.14.2009

Jun 3 @ 2:00 PM ET
He stopped skating at the top of the circle.
- Kcannon98


Charging is a penalty in ice hockey. Rule 42 of the NHL rulebook dictates that charging "shall mean the actions of a player or goalkeeper who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner

It makes no difference if he stopped skating. He traveled a long, gained a lot of speed and he hit somebody violently. What he did is textbook charging.
aries1976
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Frustration that unites us all. , AB
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 3 @ 2:03 PM ET
That's fine if "you" don't see a penalty. Not everyone can understand the rules or the game well.
- Izzo


What makes you an expert?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 3 @ 2:04 PM ET
If he gets no suspension it will be a dirty series with probably a bench clearing brawl next game. The NHL knows this
- DonCherries

would make for an entertaining series
Doogs
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 3 @ 2:08 PM ET
This overreaction is brought to you by the letters E-k.

The DoPS has set a precedent on hits. If they suspend him it is over the top, if they fine him is isn’t enough and if they ignore it it would criminal.

Fine him $5,000 and move on? Only if you are a Jets fan.
Izzo
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 12.20.2018

Jun 3 @ 2:09 PM ET
What makes you an expert?
- aries1976


Oh? Didn't realize knowing basic rules qualified as being an expert.
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jun 3 @ 2:09 PM ET
The League will suspend Scheifele because of the optics of this hit……(and I didn't watch the game so I wasn't privy to all that led up to it, just the replay of the hit)......and honestly I don't see any rules being broken! The charging rule is arguable...….but, when you see two players racing for the puck to prevent icing, and one player gets there 1st, preventing the icing, he usually takes a pretty good hit from the opposing player! What's the difference? Scheifele definitely stopped skating, and he plays whistle to whistle.

The league needs to work better at finding the fine line between regular season officiating and playoff officiating. Nobody in the Habs fan base minds Weber cross-checking guys in front of the net till they hobble off the ice.
Doogs
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 3 @ 2:09 PM ET
Charging is a penalty in ice hockey. Rule 42 of the NHL rulebook dictates that charging "shall mean the actions of a player or goalkeeper who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner

It makes no difference if he stopped skating. He traveled a long, gained a lot of speed and he hit somebody violently. What he did is textbook charging.

- hunglikeapuck


By this standard every hit Ovechkin throw would be suspendible.
braidan
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: State of Corruption.
Joined: 09.27.2006

Jun 3 @ 2:10 PM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxBL85rr0jI

frame by frame, MS had a chance to pokecheck the puck but chose not to, so stop with the "trying to prevent a goal" BS
aries1976
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Frustration that unites us all. , AB
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 3 @ 2:10 PM ET
would make for an entertaining series
- 2Real


This will be the most intriguing 2nd round match up.
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Jun 3 @ 2:11 PM ET
https://hockeybuzz.com/bl...-Phone-Hearing/266/111835

1. The very definition of charging does not require leaving your feet, it clearly states skates or jump into, both still qualify
2. The fact that he eased off at the circle does not matter, the relevant thing here is distance travelled, not the speed at the moment of impact
3. What he intended to do does not matter: rule 42 does not require intent
4. His clean record isnt a mitigating factor. Having no priors means you won’t get a harsher punishment than what is provided for unless there are aggravating factors. It does not however mean you should be absolved.
5. Saying Evans was looking down and it’s his fault is very much like saying yeah that girl deserved to be raped she dressed like a whore. It is not the victim’s fault
6. The problem is that with what we know about head hits now, there should be clear sentencing guidelines for a rule breaking that results in a brain injury. Right now, it’s at the Commissioner’s discretion, in any court of law be it in administrative, penal or criminal matters, the judge imposed the sentence within the parameters provided by the law. The rulebook needs to provide such parameters.
aries1976
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Frustration that unites us all. , AB
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 3 @ 2:12 PM ET
Oh? Didn't realize knowing basic rules qualified as being an expert.
- Izzo


You're going on that you know more then someone else.
You both have different opinions.
And in this regard you both have accurate points.

xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jun 3 @ 2:13 PM ET
Dirty? yes, dirt bag move? yes, clean hit? Borderline yes.

Didn’t leave his feet, point of contact wasn’t the head (injury came from head hitting the ice and maybe whiplash from being stopped in his tracks). Perhaps you could call it a charge although scheif glided in from fairly far out. I give him a game or two for intent to injury cause at the end of the day it was ridiculously unnecessary

- RedC21


Its a textbook Charging Penalty involving an injury..... Its suspension worthy. Not rest of series worthy though like EK suggests
aries1976
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Frustration that unites us all. , AB
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 3 @ 2:15 PM ET
https://hockeybuzz.com/blog/Karine-Hains/Scheifele-to-Have-a-Phone-Hearing/266/111835

1. The very definition of charging does not require leaving your feet, it clearly states skates or jump into, both still qualify
2. The fact that he eased off at the circle does not matter, the relevant thing here is distance travelled, not the speed at the moment of impact
3. What he intended to do does not matter: rule 42 does not require intent
4. His clean record isnt a mitigating factor. Having no priors means you won’t get a harsher punishment than what is provided for unless there are aggravating factors. It does not however mean you should be absolved.
5. Saying Evans was looking down and it’s his fault is very much like saying yeah that girl deserved to be raped she dressed like a whore. It is not the victim’s fault
6. The problem is that with what we know about head hits now, there should be clear sentencing guidelines for a rule breaking that results in a brain injury. Right now, it’s at the Commissioner’s discretion, in any court of law be it in administrative, penal or criminal matters, the judge imposed the sentence within the parameters provided by the law. The rulebook needs to provide such parameters.

- Karine Hains


Wouldn't every hit in the NHL be a charging penalty then?
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jun 3 @ 2:15 PM ET
Sergachev brings the beer every night. He was banned from the NHL after what he did to Frank Vatrano. Our captain also just texted Scheifele if he'd like to be our ringer once he's banned for life.
- Kooleus



Awesome. Do you have room for 1 more? My buddy Raffi has been looking for some ice time.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Jun 3 @ 2:18 PM ET
Its a textbook Charging Penalty involving an injury..... Its suspension worthy. Not rest of series worthy though like EK suggests
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

this


by definition it's charging, I just think there was some malicious intent as to why he did it, hence one game suspension...
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Jun 3 @ 2:18 PM ET
Wouldn't every hit in the NHL be a charging penalty then?
- aries1976


No it wouldn’t, in most cases the run up is quite short but not in this case and that is the issue
szandor
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Charlotte, NC
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 3 @ 2:19 PM ET
Clean hit. I don’t care about either team so there’s no favoritism.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jun 3 @ 2:20 PM ET
https://hockeybuzz.com/blog/Karine-Hains/Scheifele-to-Have-a-Phone-Hearing/266/111835

1. The very definition of charging does not require leaving your feet, it clearly states skates or jump into, both still qualify
2. The fact that he eased off at the circle does not matter, the relevant thing here is distance travelled, not the speed at the moment of impact
3. What he intended to do does not matter: rule 42 does not require intent
4. His clean record isnt a mitigating factor. Having no priors means you won’t get a harsher punishment than what is provided for unless there are aggravating factors. It does not however mean you should be absolved.
5. Saying Evans was looking down and it’s his fault is very much like saying yeah that girl deserved to be raped she dressed like a whore. It is not the victim’s fault
6. The problem is that with what we know about head hits now, there should be clear sentencing guidelines for a rule breaking that results in a brain injury. Right now, it’s at the Commissioner’s discretion, in any court of law be it in administrative, penal or criminal matters, the judge imposed the sentence within the parameters provided by the law. The rulebook needs to provide such parameters.

- Karine Hains

Number 6 is ridiculous. He wasn’t hit in the head. He hit his head on the ice. It was a charge. But if things were as you say even the smallest cleanest hit could possibly result in guys getting criminal charges and it would end contact hockey.
tylerliechty
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jun 3 @ 2:20 PM ET
I’m not sure what all the fuss is about. It’s playoff hockey. It’s unfortunate Evans got hurt. But it’s a hockey play. Based on the rules I can see an argument for charging. However, I can also see an argument for Scheifele trying to prevent a player from scoring a game ending goal. Since when is it illegal to check someone when they are attempting a shot on goal. There was no malicious intent. Scheifele was aggressively pursuing Evans to get to him before he got a shot off that would end the game as he should have. I can see arguments both ways but this by no means deserves a suspension. This was not malicious and it’s disgusting for everyone to be jumping all over Scheifele as if it was. Very disappointed by the buzz over this. Anyone who thinks this is anything other than a playoff hockey play is dead wrong. Feel bad for Evans getting hurt. But Scheifele didn’t do anything wrong. Maybe a charge. But certainly not a charging major and not suspendible.
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Jun 3 @ 2:22 PM ET
Number 6 is ridiculous. He wasn’t hit in the head. He hit his head on the ice. It was a charge. But if things were as you say even the smallest cleanest hit could possibly result in guys getting criminal charges and it would end contact hockey.
- TurdFergeson


Im not suggesting criminal charges anywhere in this. Barely stating that in any type of justice there are sentencing guidelines and there should be here too.
Kcannon98
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.15.2021

Jun 3 @ 2:22 PM ET
Charging is a penalty in ice hockey. Rule 42 of the NHL rulebook dictates that charging "shall mean the actions of a player or goalkeeper who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner

It makes no difference if he stopped skating. He traveled a long, gained a lot of speed and he hit somebody violently. What he did is textbook charging.

- hunglikeapuck


Tell me the last person who was suspended for "distance traveled" when there was "launching" or head contact.

I'll wait.
braidan
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: State of Corruption.
Joined: 09.27.2006

Jun 3 @ 2:23 PM ET
I’m not sure what all the fuss is about. It’s playoff hockey. It’s unfortunate Evans got hurt. But it’s a hockey play. Based on the rules I can see an argument for charging. However, I can also see an argument for Scheifele trying to prevent a player from scoring a game ending goal. Since when is it illegal to check someone when they are attempting a shot on goal. There was no malicious intent. Scheifele was aggressively pursuing Evans to get to him before he got a shot off that would end the game as he should have. I can see arguments both ways but this by no means deserves a suspension. This was not malicious and it’s disgusting for everyone to be jumping all over Scheifele as if it was. Very disappointed by the buzz over this. Anyone who thinks this is anything other than a playoff hockey play is dead wrong. Feel bad for Evans getting hurt. But Scheifele didn’t do anything wrong. Maybe a charge. But certainly not a charging major and not suspendible.
- tylerliechty

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Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Jun 3 @ 2:23 PM ET
Hey Ek. Now that round 1 is complete, can you publish the standings? I'd like to see how close I am to winning the mask. Your point system was a little complicated but hopefully the Buzztron can tabulate things pretty quickly. Hi kids.
tylerliechty
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jun 3 @ 2:24 PM ET
Eklund: Scheifele Should Get Rest of Series for His Hit on Evans. Weigh in. Buzz@1
- Eklund

Disgusting
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