Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON Joined: 07.11.2007
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Ok, so you're a clueless 38 year old dino... It's charging... just because he stopped moving his feet does not change that. But the true bottom line here is that regardless of whether YOU believe it was a non penalty, the idea that guys should have free reign to just blow another guy up unnecessarily is moronic.
Just because a player is not in a position to protect himself shouldn't mean it's open season on possibly ending his career. Nobody who is a true fan of the game of hockey is asking for hitting to be taken out of the game nor fighting for that matter. (at least not me)... but a true fan of the game of hockey doesn't want to see reckless unnecessary hits that endanger the safety of these players either... and that my friend seems to be exactly what you're making an argument for. - MnGump
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Kcannon98
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 03.15.2021
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Ok, so you're a clueless 38 year old dino... It's charging... just because he stopped moving his feet does not change that. But the true bottom line here is that regardless of whether YOU believe it was a non penalty, the idea that guys should have free reign to just blow another guy up unnecessarily is moronic.
Just because a player is not in a position to protect himself shouldn't mean it's open season on possibly ending his career. Nobody who is a true fan of the game of hockey is asking for hitting to be taken out of the game nor fighting for that matter. (at least not me)... but a true fan of the game of hockey doesn't want to see reckless unnecessary hits that endanger the safety of these players either... and that my friend seems to be exactly what you're making an argument for. - MnGump
Same thing to you...
So your argument is that the player should have NOT skated into the zone to retrieve the puck and if he does, hitting at any time after entering the zone is off limits?
If that's the case, you've just eliminated hitting from hockey.
Rule 42 was NOT broken. DOPS will say it was but they also fined Wilson $5K for slamming a guys head into the ice twice after pulling out a handful of his hair and ending his season.
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Gerk
St Louis Blues |
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Location: say it aint so TARASENKO, YT Joined: 01.07.2008
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Man...Ek can super size his combo now, with all the clicks this blog is gonna get. - Darksyde
Employees get their combo meals supersized for free.
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Kcannon98
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 03.15.2021
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I mean he obviously trolling...
Or could it be...
he incredibly stupid ?
In both cases not worth the time - Xizord
What rule was broken? |
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Izzo
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 12.20.2018
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Hockey is a dangerous sport. If you want soccer, go watch it. Unnecessary doesn't mean illegal. I've been asking for ONE rule that was broken and nobody has been able to provide one.
Rule 42 - He stopped skating at the top of the circle. He did not leave his feet until after the initial contact was made. Rule 42 is DONE. - Kcannon98
Rule 42 Charging - A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player
who skates, jumps into or charges an opponent in any manner.
Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of
distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A
“charge” may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal
frame or in open ice.
42.5 Game Misconduct Penalty - When a major penalty is imposed under
this rule for a foul resulting in an injury to the face or head of an
opponent, a game misconduct shall be imposed.
It's charging stop trying to pretend otherwise. Skating isn't defined by something that happens only when moving your feet. Leaving your feet is also not a factor as per the actual rule. Rule 42 was clearly broken to anyone with at least a lukewarm IQ level.
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Dirty, vicious hit on Evans? No question about it. However, Schiefele doesn't have a reputation as a dirty player like a Tom Wilson does. I think Schiefele gets two or three games. |
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you are wrong on this one
and if the hit was a fraction of a second earlier
there is no goal
I mean the job is to prevent him from scoring the goal
the league wants it to be a fast pace games and stuff like this is going to happen from time to time
it's not like scheifele has a history of this - homiedclown
Agree 100%. The NHL and its fans are just fine 99.9% of the time with dangerous physical play, but have no stomach for the inevitable outcome that once in a while someone is going to get hurt. What Scheifele did was a charging penalty, but there's nothing particularly vicious about it, and taking the risk of a penalty to prevent a goal is hardly unusual. At the end of the day, Evans took a huge risk by leaving himself so vulnerable, but he saw a chance to put the game away. If Evans gets right up, we're probably talking about how Scheifele plays hard to the final whistle, and is trying to set a physical tone for Game 2.
I'd say the suspension will be 1-2 games, and even that I don't really agree with.
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After reading this blog I'm starting to think that maybe Eklund has a serious head Injury somewhere In his past. |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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so to summarize the MENSA gathering that is this thread:
- Scheifele can take off his skate and cut someone if he wants, because he has never been suspended
- if a player has his head down you can pretty much (frank) his wife in the ass and shoot his dog
- a 190-foot build up of momentum does not constitute charging
- if you don't like seeing players face-down unconscious on the ice, you don't really like hockey and you're a wussy, and you're not tough like the toughest posters on hockeybuzz
did i miss anything? if so feel free to re-post your batpoop stupid take on this incident and i'll add it to the list.
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MnGump
Minnesota Wild |
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Location: Columbus, MN Joined: 06.21.2012
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Same thing to you...
So your argument is that the player should have NOT skated into the zone to retrieve the puck and if he does, hitting at any time after entering the zone is off limits?
If that's the case, you've just eliminated hitting from hockey.
Rule 42 was NOT broken. DOPS will say it was but they also fined Wilson $5K for slamming a guys head into the ice twice after pulling out a handful of his hair and ending his season. - Kcannon98
Well again, there is a tremendous difference between "hitting" in hockey and reckless unnecessary hitting. No one is saying he should have given up on the play, but the glaring truth here is that he was never going to get there in time to stop it which is exactly why he never made a play for the puck. Instead he took out his frustration on Evans at full speed with no one else around them.
As i stated in an earlier post, the lack of equal or fair officiating in these games is what fuels this kind of garbage IMO. |
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RedC21
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 01.18.2013
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So hes just suppose to let him walk the puck in the net while they're only down by 1? - DirtyDan
Didn’t even attempt to play the puck which was already in the net by the point of contact. You might have a case if a goalies in net as well but it was in |
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"Charging". Ahhh, yes.....
The penalty to apply when no other penalty fits the bill.
Kind of like "Interference".
We'll see what Player Safety says, but I don't see anything wrong with the hit.
Explosive, textbook hit with an unfortunate outcome.
Head's up while you're on the ice, kids. Or you're gonna get creamed.
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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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good hit trying to defend the net evans needs to be more aware |
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Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.20.2012
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What RULE did he break? The answer is NONE. He stopped skating at the top of the circle. Primary point of contact was the chest. The time between the puck leaving Evans stick and the initiation of contact was less than .2 seconds. No RULES were broken here. If you don't like it, maybe try TennisBuzz instead of HockeyBuzz because that was a clean hit. - Kcannon98
CHARGING:
Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of
distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A
“charge” may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal
frame or in open ice.
Pretty sure he travelled have the length of the ice to make the hit.
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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"Charging". Ahhh, yes.....
The penalty to apply when no other penalty fits the bill.
Kind of like "Interference".
We'll see what Player Safety says, but I don't see anything wrong with the hit.
Explosive, textbook hit with an unfortunate outcome.
Head's up while you're on the ice, kids. Or you're gonna get creamed. - Nh_kong
exhibit 657 of hockey fans being, by many miles, the absolute stupidest of sports fans.
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Anyone watch the reaction of Mark Scheifele after the hit, he looked like someone on berserk mode. It's time that the NHL drug test the players during the playoff... one thing he did not look like, someone sorry for his action and you can tell from his eye he was on something. |
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disorca
New York Rangers |
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Location: NY Joined: 07.01.2015
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so if the hit would have prevented the goal & jets come back and score is it still a penalty and suspension? clown world, its hockey grow some balls clean hit |
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Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets |
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Location: Montreal, QC Joined: 06.03.2008
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Intention is also factored in if Scheifele is getting a live hearing, the rules can only dictate so much , this is why I think he should get suspended . |
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exhibit 657 of hockey fans being, by many miles, the absolute stupidest of sports fans. - DoubleDown
You got it, Homer....... |
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Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.20.2012
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so if the hit would have prevented the goal & jets come back and score is it still a penalty and suspension? clown world, its hockey grow some balls clean hit - disorca
Of course.
He travelled the length of the ice to make the hit.
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Izzo
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 12.20.2018
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so if the hit would have prevented the goal & jets come back and score is it still a penalty and suspension? clown world, its hockey grow some balls clean hit - disorca
I guess you didn't know this but you can use this thing called a hockey stick. It has a much further reach than your body. If your intent is to stop the puck from going in the net then you use the thing that can stop it before that happens. Not risk the puck going in your net because you would rather take more time to hit the person instead. |
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rrentz
New York Rangers |
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Location: HUNTINGTON, NY Joined: 07.13.2009
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Keep your head up when you are trying to score and be aware of what is around you. |
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I guess you didn't know this but you can use this thing called a hockey stick. It has a much further reach than your body. If your intent is to stop the puck from going in the net then you use the thing that can stop it before that happens. Not risk the puck going in your net because you would rather take more time to hit the person instead. - Izzo
Scheifele's choice to play the puck or the man. He chose to play the man.
Evans' choice to take the shot or wait for his teammates for support. He chose to take the shot and got his clock cleaned.
Sorry, I still don't see a penalty there.
If it had been the other way around, the Habs fans would say it was a good, clean hit.
It's unfortunate Evans got hurt, but he really left himself wide-open. |
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Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON Joined: 07.11.2007
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