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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 3 @ 11:56 AM ET
I’ll chime in,
Shiefele should absolutely be suspended, 100%. But the league and social media is a poop hole.

Just a few games ago Ryan Graves (Colorado) made an equally horrible hit to Vegas’s Janmark. Janmark had to be helped off the ice as he was knocked out, Graves didn’t have the speed Shiefele had going into the hit, but the hit was made far later after the play. Meathead Reeves took actions into his own hands and attacked Graves and put his knee over Graves neck, which rightfully got Reeves suspended. But In doing so, everyone then felt bad for Graves, turned their attention to Reeves and Graves received no suspension for his hit that started the whole thing.

How messed up is that??

The sad, very sad reality is these plays happen a lot more than you think if you are only watching the Jets and if the player on the receiving end doesn’t get hurt, they more often than not do not get any attention. A dirty hit is a dirty hit and until they are all called equally no matter the outcome or value and talent of guilty player, nothing will change

- Ross77



well said.
Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON
Joined: 07.11.2007

Jun 3 @ 11:57 AM ET
I’ll chime in,
Shiefele should absolutely be suspended, 100%. But the league and social media is a poop hole.

Just a few games ago Ryan Graves (Colorado) made an equally horrible hit to Vegas’s Janmark. Janmark had to be helped off the ice as he was knocked out, Graves didn’t have the speed Shiefele had going into the hit, but the hit was made far later after the play. Meathead Reeves took actions into his own hands and attacked Graves and put his knee over Graves neck, which rightfully got Reeves suspended. But In doing so, everyone then felt bad for Graves, turned their attention to Reeves and Graves received no suspension for his hit that started the whole thing.

How messed up is that??

The sad, very sad reality is these plays happen a lot more than you think if you are only watching the Jets and if the player on the receiving end doesn’t get hurt, they more often than not do not get any attention. A dirty hit is a dirty hit and until they are all called equally no matter the outcome or value and talent of guilty player, nothing will change

- Ross77

DOPS has been a complete poop-show all year. There needs to be a change, and consistency across the board.
jaygeeforty
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Clearwater, FL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jun 3 @ 11:58 AM ET
When are these prix gonna be held accountable for skating with their heads down and not watching their surroundings????
Kcannon98
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.15.2021

Jun 3 @ 11:58 AM ET
I'm so (frank)ing tired of hearing this bullpoop. MS knew he wasn't going to stop the goal, didn't even try to stop the puck. So his butthurt ass decided that he was just going to bury this kid who DARED put the game out of reach. No other Habs in sight, so when he came flying down the ice, Evans was the only target. This wasn't a clean play by any means. Like with goaltender interference, MS made NO MOVE to slow down to avoid contact with a player in a vulnerable position. Hell, if he made a half-assed attempt to block the puck I might buy it. But as soon as he gave up on stopping the goal, it wasn't about anything more than hurting Evans, about making him pay. And that's the part that deserves the suspension more than anything.
- Darksyde


So you CANNOT point to a rule that was broken. OK! Go watch soccer.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 3 @ 11:58 AM ET
I like what Ehlers was doing to protect Evans as he was flat on the ice.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 3 @ 11:59 AM ET
So you CANNOT point to a rule that was broken. OK! Go watch soccer.
- Kcannon98



rabble rabble rabble
Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON
Joined: 07.11.2007

Jun 3 @ 12:00 PM ET
So you CANNOT point to a rule that was broken. OK! Go watch soccer.
- Kcannon98

It was actually spelled out for you on the first page. Thanks, though!
Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON
Joined: 07.11.2007

Jun 3 @ 12:01 PM ET
I like what Ehlers was doing to protect Evans as he was flat on the ice.
- dmnted

Same. Class act all the way.
Kcannon98
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.15.2021

Jun 3 @ 12:01 PM ET
It was actually spelled out for you on the first page. Thanks, though!
- Darksyde


Can't point to a rule. All EMOTIONS from a Habs fan.
Kcannon98
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.15.2021

Jun 3 @ 12:02 PM ET
rabble rabble rabble
- Pat1993


More Habs fan emotion. You know a rule wasn't broken but you also know that you have the NHL in your pocket more than Crosby does so they'll probably end up charging Schiefele with ag assault.
Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON
Joined: 07.11.2007

Jun 3 @ 12:02 PM ET
Can't point to a rule. All EMOTIONS from a Habs fan.
- Kcannon98

So charging is no longer a rule? Wow. Glad we have the expert here to teach us the ways of hockey!
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 3 @ 12:03 PM ET
I’ll chime in,
Shiefele should absolutely be suspended, 100%. But the league and social media is a poop hole.

Just a few games ago Ryan Graves (Colorado) made an equally horrible hit to Vegas’s Janmark. Janmark had to be helped off the ice as he was knocked out, Graves didn’t have the speed Shiefele had going into the hit, but the hit was made far later after the play. Meathead Reeves took actions into his own hands and attacked Graves and put his knee over Graves neck, which rightfully got Reeves suspended. But In doing so, everyone then felt bad for Graves, turned their attention to Reeves and Graves received no suspension for his hit that started the whole thing.

How messed up is that??

The sad, very sad reality is these plays happen a lot more than you think if you are only watching the Jets and if the player on the receiving end doesn’t get hurt, they more often than not do not get any attention. A dirty hit is a dirty hit and until they are all called equally no matter the outcome or value and talent of guilty player, nothing will change

- Ross77


Good take.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 3 @ 12:03 PM ET
More Habs fan emotion. You know a rule wasn't broken but you also know that you have the NHL in your pocket more than Crosby does so they'll probably end up charging Schiefele with ag assault.
- Kcannon98


Kcannon, the K stands for Ketamine, right? being high AF I understand you might be lost, it's ok.
Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON
Joined: 07.11.2007

Jun 3 @ 12:05 PM ET
More Habs fan emotion. You know a rule wasn't broken but you also know that you have the NHL in your pocket more than Crosby does so they'll probably end up charging Schiefele with ag assault.
- Kcannon98

Actually, the Habs have yet to actually have ANY favourable encounters with DOPS. We've been called for infractions, and rightfully so. But have YET to see any high hits on our players called. But you're of course well versed in all things, so you know this already.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 3 @ 12:06 PM ET
you actually don't know what charging is but you are good a throwing the dumb frenchman comment.

Has NOTHING to do with him leaving his feet for the hit or not, it's about distance travelled to make the hit.

Charging is a penalty in ice hockey. Rule 42 of the NHL rulebook dictates that charging "shall mean the actions of a player or goalkeeper who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A 'charge' may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal frame or in open ice."

- Symba007[1] The infraction may warrant any severity of penalty or combination of penalties as the officials deem fit, including a major plus a game misconduct, or suspension if the infraction results in injury to the opposing player.


thats nice and vague...forwards target the puck player with the puck from 50 feet or greater every game and finish their checks...often quite heavy and hard. never called. If they did there would 10 pens in the 1st period of every game...

unfortunate bang/bang play...55's hit occurs just microseconds after evans nets the goal for all you whining about he didn't try to play puck. How many checks and hits happen in a game where the player has NO intention of playing the puck or the puck is gone...10-15-20 per game? Charging is never called. BTW its one of the least called pens: the majority calls are slashing, hooking, tripping.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 3 @ 12:07 PM ET
Maybe you should read the rule book?


"Charging is a penalty in ice hockey. Rule 42 of the NHL rulebook dictates that charging "shall mean the actions of a player or goalkeeper who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner."

- DraftandDestroy


Okay so he should be assessed a 2 minute minor, No intent to injure. completely clean hit. He even glides in for him.

Or maybe just not even try and just let him score next time. Maybe try and score for him.

Soft babies
Isles
Location: Sweet Lou NY
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 3 @ 12:07 PM ET
Dirty? yes, dirt bag move? yes, clean hit? Borderline yes.

Didn’t leave his feet, point of contact wasn’t the head (injury came from head hitting the ice and maybe whiplash from being stopped in his tracks). Perhaps you could call it a charge although scheif glided in from fairly far out. I give him a game or two for intent to injury cause at the end of the day it was ridiculously unnecessary

- RedC21


This
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 3 @ 12:08 PM ET
Okay so he should be assessed a 2 minute minor, No intent to injure. completely clean hit. He even glides in for him.

Or maybe just not even try and just let him score next time. Maybe try and score for him.

Soft babies

- DirtyDan


Dirty dan...


Thornton22
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 09.23.2011

Jun 3 @ 12:08 PM ET
Just because there weren't any other options does not make it legal...just reckless instead of dirty.
- jugkope


As I said it was unnecessary to level him.
Since Evans was in offensive zone and Shieflie was in neutral zone how is he supposed to make a play without skating?

Fir the record I didn't like the hit.
Cloutov
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Terrebonne, QC
Joined: 07.24.2006

Jun 3 @ 12:10 PM ET
Wow reading all the comments is amazing.
1. Scheifele doesn’t try to prevent the goal. He had plenty of time to play the puck with is stick but he does not. Instead he slows down to time himself properly, get the shoulder down and hit to the head.
2. Scheifele was already frustrated all game, already had a 2 minutes for roughing Ben Chariot no helmet and vulnerable. It shows he got dominated by emotion.
Anyone saying he did that to prevent a goal should stop watching hockey. Go see the replay it s undeniable he goes for Evans head.
YKhali99
Colorado Avalanche
Location: NWT
Joined: 09.26.2018

Jun 3 @ 12:13 PM ET
keep your head up, never looked once, coasted in from the hashmarks, shoulder down. The result is what everyone is complaining about, if got up and celebrated the goal, everyone would be like oh my god what a hit. If shefiele dove for the puck he most likely would of gotten hurt sliding into the boards. It was a big hit and a bad result, players have to be aware and protect themselves. 1 game max
Leafs24seven
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:13 PM ET
As usual, I think EK has this one way wrong. We are talking .1 seconds of time between when the goal goes in and the hit happens. The one thing I don't like about it is that he didn't seem to attempt to stick check before the hit, which may have had a better shot at stopping the goal.
Kid has his head down. If this was Kronwall a few years back, the announcers would be yelling "He got Kronwall'd!" like it was the best thing ever. Looked really bad, but the kid should have just took the safe route there instead of putting himself right in the line of fire. This is the playoffs, and Evans had the puck in a one-goal game. Was he actually thinking they wouldn't be coming for him?
If MS gets more than a game or two I'll be surprised.

- dramado



This is the NHL, by now players across the league should know to first protect themselves because the league isn’t. 2. Any player with the puck or just getting rid of the puck should be on alert of a pending hit no matter the time in the game, unless of course you are playing against my beloved Leafs, then no need to worry. 3 Dispite what you think another player may or may not do, never go behind and around the net with you head down Ever! Evans did not deserve the outcome because his head was down but players should by now know that they have to protect themselves.

Everyone using still frames to justify their arguments are clueless. This is a fast game, a beautiful game. Things happen quickly all over the ice. MS was pissed off at losing, he took advantage of a player not protecting himself and was and will be penalized for it. Hopefully Evans is okay, his history of concussions is worrisome
wbon22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 3 @ 12:15 PM ET
That hit reminds me that so many people just don't understand what is a clean hit, a necessary play or respect the other player.
And this is as much a societal matter as it is this single play.

Kcannon98
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.15.2021

Jun 3 @ 12:15 PM ET
So charging is no longer a rule? Wow. Glad we have the expert here to teach us the ways of hockey!
- Darksyde


He stopped taking strides at the top of the circle. Rule 42 doesn't apply. You can't expect a guy to stop skating at center ice. He skated into the zone to make a play, decided to play the body, and slowed up to make it a legal hit (which it was). If he continued his stride through the initiation of contact, yes, Rule 42 would apply. He stopped skating WELL before the contact was initiated. But it's the Habs so he'll probably get 50 games, an assault charge, and they'll alter the CBA to fine him a few million dollars.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 3 @ 12:16 PM ET
If he arrives a split second sooner and prevents him from scoring, we are talking about what a great play it was.
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