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black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jun 3 @ 7:44 PM ET
As much as I hate any NY team the isles among the worst I am hoping they beat Boston.
I am so sick of hearing about “the perfection line” I want to barf.

- bird_dog_pa


you suck
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 3 @ 7:48 PM ET
you suck
- black_francis


Maybe so but I can say for sure I wouldn’t want them to go any farther than this series.
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jun 3 @ 7:53 PM ET
Maybe so but I can say for sure I wouldn’t want them to go any farther than this series.
- bird_dog_pa


im not talking about that.
you suck as a person
(frank) off
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jun 3 @ 7:53 PM ET
After being off ice for months, playing in a bubble with no family or outside world contact for almost 2 months, and getting within one win of the conference finals?

Puhleehz.

- MBFlyerfan


Comments such as this indicate how deeply the rot of mediocrity has set in in Flyerdom. It is one thing to be mediocre in personnel (which we are), and in record (which we also are). But is something quite distinct to be mediocre even in one's expectations.

All teams had those difficulties. Note that almost all the teams of the teams who underachieved last year relative to expectations (Leafs, Caps, Pens, Blues, Flyers) underachieved this year as well.

Iotw, bubble/Covid break and the arrival of cherubs in the family had very little to do with it.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 3 @ 7:58 PM ET
im not talking about that.
you suck as a person
(frank) off

- black_francis


Really have we met? You, don’t even know me. Since I don’t associate with rascists it’s understandable.
There is still time for you to be a better person, I believe.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jun 3 @ 8:00 PM ET
He had an uneven playoffs. Some rough games but also stepped up big in a few of the third period closeouts and OTs.
- bmeltzer


You are being kind, Bill.

Nisky had 2 points in 15 games. He was -4 outside the non-playoff rounds. His Corsi and Fenwick were well south of 50, and his relative Corsi/Fenwick were well into the negative (He dragged the team town in possession stats even relative to his teammates).

His single biggest contribution may well have been the stick on Gallagher's face. Else, we may well have lost that series.
CRUSH IT LIKE ME
Location: Give me 20 of Kunitz vs 20 girouxs
Joined: 04.25.2021

Jun 3 @ 8:04 PM ET
You own MAGA gear, and have the ideologies to match.

Like when the beloved Kate Smith statue came down.

You are a fraud and now you can carry on I AM the one ending this.

Bruh

- DrMidnite



CRUSH IT LIKE ME
Location: Give me 20 of Kunitz vs 20 girouxs
Joined: 04.25.2021

Jun 3 @ 8:05 PM ET
im not talking about that.
you suck as a person
(frank) off

- black_francis

keyboard tough guy is back for his drive by toughguyisms
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jun 3 @ 8:10 PM ET
im not talking about that.
you suck as a person
(frank) off

- black_francis


Not to butt in here, but a piece of gratuitous advice if I very humbly may.

The only non-topical value of guys like Bird-dog in such forums is negative: someone, somewhere might be misled by the barely coherent nonsense they post. Engage only for the sake of that possible ripple effect and that unseen audience, and correct. Else ignore.

Empty insults simply play into the attention seeking hands. That is why I barely respond (and sometimes not at all) to the PMs these crackpots send my way. There I don't have to care about the unseen.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jun 3 @ 8:11 PM ET
Haha he gets one right every once in a while. You honestly see a path forward with this roster that ends up us being a contender? I think it’s time for major change, I don’t think a retool of a few guys in and out fixes this.
- ClaudeFather




Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jun 3 @ 8:15 PM ET
Comments such as this indicate how deeply the rot of mediocrity has set in in Flyerdom. It is one thing to be mediocre in personnel (which we are), and in record (which we also are). But is something quite distinct to be mediocre even in one's expectations.

All teams had those difficulties. Note that almost all the teams of the teams who underachieved last year relative to expectations (Leafs, Caps, Pens, Blues, Flyers) underachieved this year as well.

Iotw, bubble/Covid break and the arrival of cherubs in the family had very little to do with it.

- PT21


Thank god you’re here to set the record straight.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jun 3 @ 8:16 PM ET
Depends on the cost. I have to wonder if we give him 10 aav (as some suggest he would get) would it deplete our ability to field a good roster overall?

Personally I would rather see them make a play for David Savard or Adam Larsson in FA.

I don't think we need a superstar. I think we need another guy like Niskanen.

People talk about how using the circumstances of the past season is an excuse. OK fair enough, but that doesn't mean they weren't still circumstances that contributed to the problems. We don't live in a one size fits all world nor is the league a one size fits all place. Not all teams and rosters were going to react the same way. To think otherwise is ridiculous.

I think this team is not as bad as they showed.

Next year will bear my opinion out one way or another.

- MBFlyerfan


In what way? Are they going to make the playoffs? Very likely. Are they going to be competitive in the 2nd round? Unlikely. Are they going to make the CF? No.

They will revert to the mean.


PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jun 3 @ 8:17 PM ET
Thank god you’re here to set the record straight.
- Ftown19125


I am a ruthlessly logical guy.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 3 @ 8:20 PM ET
I am a ruthlessly logical guy.
- PT21


Oh really when did you decide to start this phase of your life?
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jun 3 @ 8:23 PM ET
Not to butt in here, but a piece of gratuitous advice if I very humbly may.

The only non-topical value of guys like Bird-dog in such forums is negative: someone, somewhere might be misled by the barely coherent nonsense they post. Engage only for the sake of that possible ripple effect and that unseen audience, and correct. Else ignore.

Empty insults simply play into the attention seeking hands. That is why I barely respond (and sometimes not at all) to the PMs these crackpots send my way. There I don't have to care about the unseen.

- PT21


thanks dad
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jun 3 @ 8:28 PM ET
As long as he is willing to extend, the Flyers priority should be to re-sign Couturier. He would be an exceptionally hard player to adequately replace. If he wants to test the market, it's a different story. It seems a percentage of Flyers fans are dying to turn the Flyers into the Buffalo Sabres, drafting at or near the top and yet going nowhere forward.
- bmeltzer


Hey Bill: Why do you always choose the worst possibility for a paradigm? If your kids want to be President, would you say: "Do you want to end up like Nixon?"

How about Colorado, who let tw of their best players Duchene and Stastny walk/trade? How did that move turn out?
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 3 @ 8:31 PM ET
The NHL imo needs to really revaluate their player disciplinary dept.
I just saw the Scheifle hit. Four games is excessive when you compare it some of the other infractions this year.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jun 3 @ 8:31 PM ET
thanks dad
- black_francis


Why is everyone making fun of my age?

If you guys saw me in my red chinos, my black adidas sneaks, my teal leather jacket, my Ray Bans. my tight white sports shirt showing off my manly, manly, hirsute chest, and my pony tail that dangles below my bald crown, you would know I still got it.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jun 3 @ 8:45 PM ET
Lot of Flyers will bounce back next season and everybody will be back on the bandwagon.


- Tomahawk


Dave Wasserman of the Cook Political Report is one of the country's leading election forecasters. Twitter, however, forbids pronouncements till it is official (which usually is when the AP calls it). So, he has a famous catch phrase which is a disguised pronouncement: "I have seen enough."

That's my sentiment for the current trend lines of this franchise. I will be a dilettante fan, and casually follow, as I have been doing for the past 7 years (except last year when I got fooled by the hype).

To quote a former President:

“There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jun 3 @ 8:48 PM ET
They just like to hate the things they think they love because they hate themselves and aren’t capable of loving anything else.

They really are a self contained tragedy.

- mayorofangrytown


Or, perhaps, they are capable of gradations of support, and do not see the heart and the head as mortal enemies.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jun 3 @ 8:56 PM ET
Wasn't defensive bruh.

But since you asked. HE is ending the Afghan War, unlike the other guy. You know.

Anyway, I am independent but find it disturbing and laughable that one is held in any higher regard than the other.

You are a loser.

- DrMidnite


Just to be fair, Trump had long stood for ending foreign troop involvement, even before he ran for President. He had to be persuaded to keep some troops in Iraq, and he sharply diminished troops in Afghanistan. Biden just completed the process.

Which might be a necessary act for us but is nonetheless a huge tragedy for the Afghanis. Afghanistan before the USSR invaded in the early 1980s (and the CIA sponsored the Mujahideen in response) was a largely secular place. There were Jews, Hindus, Christians who had coexisted for centuries. Women were educated. the Taliban destroyed it all, and now, the US is handing over the country back to these same barbarians. The bombing of schools for girls has already started.

One more war lost. Though no one, no one, defeats the Afghans in their own land. Not the Brits, not the Ruskies, not the US.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jun 3 @ 9:01 PM ET
Comments such as this indicate how deeply the rot of mediocrity has set in in Flyerdom. It is one thing to be mediocre in personnel (which we are), and in record (which we also are). But is something quite distinct to be mediocre even in one's expectations.
- PT21


I refuse to lower my expectations for the team. They failed to meet them in a big way this past season. The talk about not getting a Niskanen replacement...yes, that was only the start of the issues. Also, I think the add should be a bigger impact replacement because even with Niskanen, the defense was still short of contender status. That is me just being honest.

The defense needs a revamp and an impact RHD add. Needs to be both an impact player and the right fit. It is a must add. The only viable alternative is to add 2 good but not great guys to the top 4 and go for both great fit and bank on improvement from the youth. I would choose option 1. Not because I doubt that growth is likely but don’t see a good enough fit due to the gap in drafting RD, and think it might take too long for the vet forwards to still be productive enough.
therabbi
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 10.14.2020

Jun 3 @ 9:12 PM ET
In the process of buying a house. I didn’t realize houses came with stress and anxiety upfront before the down payment and moving in.
- SuperSchennBros

Oh my gosh, my heart goes out to you. It is so stressful. When we bought our house two and a half years ago, my wife was convinced she smelled mold inside the walls, and that it was sure to be full of radon, and all kinds of other stuff. The real estate agents, including our own, told us she was crazy and everything is fine. I decided with them since they seemed authoritative.
So we move in and she convinces me to get the wall ripped down, as a condition of staying married, and of course it's full of mold and a leaky pipe. Our insurance won't pay, and they shouldn't, since it didn't happen while we owned it, and honestly there's no way to sue! Our inspector didn't find it, because they are not allowed to open walls and there was no moisture on the outside, and I bought it. So I pay the contractor, redo the bathroom at the same time, and three months later there's water dripping from the ceiling, because he did not correctly find the source of the leak. He offers to redo that wall somewhat for free, though I pay a fortune to a plumber to fix the pipe properly, but he doesn't have his best guys and so the drywall and paint all look like crap.
By the way the radon is through the roof. Clearly the people are on the house fake the readings, and my wife was right to be suspicious when the official reading came in as 4.0 which was the absolute max allowed.
I refinanced twice since so paid those extra fees on top of all these other expenses and barely getting into the house in the first place. And it all gets a little better, but it's hard to look at anything without realizing that it needs work.
Home ownership. Now I realize why all the retirees I work with love selling their homes and moving into condos.
therabbi
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 10.14.2020

Jun 3 @ 9:22 PM ET
Apparently Carey Price is the first player in NHL history to win a PO series w/ AAV 10M+.
- Tomahawk


I didn't realize that. Made me think back to yashin and his 10-year contract at eight point something? What a weird guy. Spent a year sitting out in Ottawa because he felt that he was being underpaid in the contract he had signed, and if I remember correctly they actually listened to his whining in the year before or so so he wouldn't sit out and gave him more. Then Millbury trades for him, giving up the Rick Nash draft pick and a young Chara and someone else I forget, and then signs him to that absurd 10 year contract for which he did squat.
Man those were weird days.

It'll be interesting to see whether karlsson ever gets it together.

And in Toronto if marner proves his worth. I think it's a relief we never traded for nylander. I don't watch Toronto games, but I hated his whole sitting out thing and his claims of elite stature with basically no track record to show it.
Im back
Joined: 05.27.2021

Jun 3 @ 9:26 PM ET
Context? No, its fact. Spin however you want. What I say is 100% fact. Indisputable. We were 1 game away from the conference final.

By all means stay dizzy.

- MBFlyerfan

Context... 2010 we were 2 games from winning cup... Nevermind we needed a shootout on last day of regular season to get the 8th seed. Nevermind the top 4 seeded teams in the East all lost in first round and we had a much easier path to finals. But surely facts we were 2 games from raising the cup. See how context plays. Or are we still thinking facts we were 2 games from raising cup and the 2010 team was really good and so close? Never mind the had no 3rd d pair and players on 2010 team never played a game again. Laughable actually that context never considered
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