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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 3 @ 8:45 PM ET
Clown league.
- Grinder47


I don't know man. I fn love big clean hits. I've watched this one so many times because everyone up here is talking about it and debating on it. I've seen so many posts about it on social media today. I've never seen a heads up wrap around attempt before, have you? His head was down half way behind the net.. MS has a lot of time not hit him in the HEAD first. It's the initial point of contact from a charge... to a heads down player... I dunno man... There's several things wrong with the play, really

Mr Avery agrees with you though...

https://youtu.be/uVN-o0oY-iQ
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 3 @ 8:52 PM ET
Clown league.
- Grinder47


100% agreed. It should have been more.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 3 @ 8:56 PM ET
I don't know man. I fn love big clean hits. I've watched this one so many times because everyone up here is talking about it and debating on it. I've seen so many posts about it on social media today. I've never seen a heads up wrap around attempt before, have you? His head was down half way behind the net.. MS has a lot of time not hit him in the HEAD first. It's the initial point of contact from a charge... to a heads down player... I dunno man... There's several things wrong with the play, really

Mr Avery agrees with you though...

https://youtu.be/uVN-o0oY-iQ

- MattStrat

Haha exactly. I’m normally defending Tom Wilson but this hit was pure garbage.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jun 3 @ 9:11 PM ET
I don't know man. I fn love big clean hits. I've watched this one so many times because everyone up here is talking about it and debating on it. I've seen so many posts about it on social media today. I've never seen a heads up wrap around attempt before, have you? His head was down half way behind the net.. MS has a lot of time not hit him in the HEAD first. It's the initial point of contact from a charge... to a heads down player... I dunno man... There's several things wrong with the play, really

Mr Avery agrees with you though...

https://youtu.be/uVN-o0oY-iQ

- MattStrat

Why the (frank) would you not hit him??? He plays for the other team and is driving the puck to your net. It was a charge.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jun 3 @ 9:19 PM ET
I don't know man. I fn love big clean hits. I've watched this one so many times because everyone up here is talking about it and debating on it. I've seen so many posts about it on social media today. I've never seen a heads up wrap around attempt before, have you? His head was down half way behind the net.. MS has a lot of time not hit him in the HEAD first. It's the initial point of contact from a charge... to a heads down player... I dunno man... There's several things wrong with the play, really

Mr Avery agrees with you though...

https://youtu.be/uVN-o0oY-iQ

- MattStrat


Evans never looked behind to see if someone was coming. He had no idea of his surroundings.

Keep your head on a swivel was a popular saying of former Penguins coach Bob Johnson. Probably still good advice, but what do I know.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 3 @ 9:29 PM ET
Why the (frank) would you not hit him??? He plays for the other team and is driving the puck to your net. It was a charge.
- Grinder47


Yeah, a charge to the head... Plus hitting him probably wasn't the smartest play to try and prevent it. You can't deny that, Grinder. He had a better chance disrupting with stick with potential of going back the other way quicker with it. He hit after it was scored.

I still think he had a momentary lapse of judgement. Kinda frustrated and lost his cool...followed through.

There's clear rules about this now, Sid's misfortunes brought it into the major limelight and there's been changes to protect these guys brains. They want players to be able to still remember their own names when they're 40. Players shouldn't expect to be hit to the head like that.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 3 @ 10:00 PM ET
Haha exactly. I’m normally defending Tom Wilson but this hit was pure garbage.
- Feds91Stammer

Haha I was gonna bring his name up but didn't want to start that whole thing but since it was....if Tom Wilson did this it wouldn't be a 50/50 on if it was dirty or not. It be like 90/10
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jun 3 @ 10:19 PM ET
Haha I was gonna bring his name up but didn't want to start that whole thing but since it was....if Tom Wilson did this it wouldn't be a 50/50 on if it was dirty or not. It be like 90/10
- 668710


This is hardly a 50/50 split. How many times has Scheifele been reprimanded by the league. Now compare that to Wilson.

Scheifele deserved some type of discipline, much like when Steve Downey got one game for his hit on Lovejoy. He got four because it was against Montreal.



Pags
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stony Point, NY
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 3 @ 10:30 PM ET
Wow, Varlamov just let in a Jarry level team killer.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jun 3 @ 10:43 PM ET
Wow, Varlamov just let in a Jarry level team killer.
- Pags


Both goals high to the glove side. Makes you go hmm.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 3 @ 10:47 PM ET
This is hardly a 50/50 split. How many times has Scheifele been reprimanded by the league. Now compare that to Wilson.

Scheifele deserved some type of discipline, much like when Steve Downey got one game for his hit on Lovejoy. He got four because it was against Montreal.

- Thunderbolt

Lol
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 3 @ 10:51 PM ET
This is hardly a 50/50 split. How many times has Scheifele been reprimanded by the league. Now compare that to Wilson.

Scheifele deserved some type of discipline, much like when Steve Downey got one game for his hit on Lovejoy. He got four because it was against Montreal.

- Thunderbolt

What do you mean? Everywhere Ive read people are 50/50 on clean vs dirty. And you know damn well if Wilson did it instead of Schief that it would be 90 dirty/10 clean.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jun 3 @ 11:19 PM ET
What do you mean? Everywhere Ive read people are 50/50 on clean vs dirty. And you know damn well if Wilson did it instead of Schief that it would be 90 dirty/10 clean.
- 668710


I don't know where your reading but it's overwhelming that Scheifele deserved a suspension. Just because someone posts twenty times compared to ten guys posting twice doesn't make it split.

This is Scheifele's first discipline in how many years? Can Wilson say that? Scheifele has never even had any questionable hits before now. Wilson has more than anyone. Wilson's intentions should be questioned every time.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 3 @ 11:44 PM ET
I don't know where your reading but it's overwhelming that Scheifele deserved a suspension. Just because someone posts twenty times compared to ten guys posting twice doesn't make it split.

This is Scheifele's first discipline in how many years? Can Wilson say that? Scheifele has never even had any questionable hits before now. Wilson has more than anyone. Wilson's intentions should be questioned every time.

- Thunderbolt

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Shows you who's answers are 50/50 and who's was pure clean to pure dirty. It also shows High IQ to Low IQ answers
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jun 4 @ 5:17 AM ET
Naturalsuspensiontrick.com
Shows you who's answers are 50/50 and who's was pure clean to pure dirty. It also shows High IQ to Low IQ answers

- 668710


Never heard of the site. I get one result when I google it, your post.

You got me, I was suspicious but I had to check it out. I got all magic tricks the first time I googled the site. Then my curiosity got the better of me.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jun 4 @ 5:43 AM ET
Yeah, a charge to the head... Plus hitting him probably wasn't the smartest play to try and prevent it. You can't deny that, Grinder. He had a better chance disrupting with stick with potential of going back the other way quicker with it. He hit after it was scored.

I still think he had a momentary lapse of judgement. Kinda frustrated and lost his cool...followed through.

There's clear rules about this now, Sid's misfortunes brought it into the major limelight and there's been changes to protect these guys brains. They want players to be able to still remember their own names when they're 40. Players shouldn't expect to be hit to the head like that.

- MattStrat

I don’t think stick on puck stops that goal either way. You have a small guy leaning hard on his stick for a wrap around empty netter. A tall guy reaching gas so much less leverage, I know I’m tall. I don’t think Scheifele expected the hit to be so big. Oh and he hit him in the chest. I think the head ice contact is what rattled Evans.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jun 4 @ 6:21 AM ET
I guess Clutterbuck will get 3 games because Carlo got hurt on the routine check.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jun 4 @ 6:45 AM ET
I don’t think stick on puck stops that goal either way. You have a small guy leaning hard on his stick for a wrap around empty netter. A tall guy reaching gas so much less leverage, I know I’m tall. I don’t think Scheifele expected the hit to be so big. Oh and he hit him in the chest. I think the head ice contact is what rattled Evans.
- Grinder47


His first point of contact was his head. He was out cold when he hit the ice.

That was an easy play for him to break up with his stick. You dont need leverage. No one cares if you are tall, height would have zero impact on having enough leverage to knock the puck away.
joecool2931
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rillton, PA
Joined: 09.03.2015

Jun 4 @ 7:43 AM ET
That's what I don't understand about this play at all. Put your stick out and I don't see how he scores.
- acdc1206


Yea it's a possibility, but i bet he still scores. I actually thought his best option to stop it was a hit. if evans actually has his head up for 1 millisecond after he passes the dots, he probably re-thinks his wrap around. but he literally skates with his eyes glued to the ice for 3 whole seconds.
joecool2931
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rillton, PA
Joined: 09.03.2015

Jun 4 @ 7:54 AM ET
His first point of contact was his head. He was out cold when he hit the ice.

That was an easy play for him to break up with his stick. You dont need leverage. No one cares if you are tall, height would have zero impact on having enough leverage to knock the puck away.

- MacPatty



head was not the first pt of contact, his head snaps toward schieffle first, then back. I actually don't think there is much contact with the head at all, its almost entirely a whiplash. A really bad whiplash.
pozone
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 05.20.2016

Jun 4 @ 8:33 AM ET
I hope burkie and hexy are just being politaccly correct and he brings in some big nasty pl;ayers. What do you think of that Buffalo Boy/
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 4 @ 8:55 AM ET
I hope burkie and hexy are just being politaccly correct and he brings in some big nasty pl;ayers. What do you think of that Buffalo Boy/
- pozone

Turn your bold font the (frank) off dude.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 4 @ 9:03 AM ET
I hope burkie and hexy are just being politaccly correct and he brings in some big nasty pl;ayers. What do you think of that Buffalo Boy/
- pozone


You’re such a clown.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jun 4 @ 9:22 AM ET
head was not the first pt of contact, his head snaps toward schieffle first, then back. I actually don't think there is much contact with the head at all, its almost entirely a whiplash. A really bad whiplash.
- joecool2931


It's not really worth arguing about but he drove right through his chin. Yes, he obviously caught his body too, but he caught his chin first.

Watch the replay in slow motion from the corner camera view. What is the first part of Evans body to move? His head folds before any impact with his body is made. There is a lot you can argue on this but I don't know how you can argue his head was the initial point of contact.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 4 @ 9:26 AM ET
You’re such a clown.
- j.boyd919


Joined HB in 2016 but I don't recall ever seeing this.....style(?)....of writing/posting until the past few months hahah
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