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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 3 @ 12:02 PM ET
Hes gliding, Hows this a charge?
- DirtyDan


You said it yourself - he was going at full speed. The charging rule says you can't go over a long distance to hit someone.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 3 @ 12:02 PM ET
Also teach you to not hit players from behind but players still do, but that is a moo point apparently.
- ImThatGuy


Wwere not talking about a hit from behind here.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 3 @ 12:02 PM ET
It was charging that resulted in injury, and an unnecessary hit, which more or less implies charging. It's suspendable.
- TheSabresTaco


It was intent to injure which is a suspendable offense

he gonnneee
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 3 @ 12:03 PM ET
You said it yourself - he was going at full speed. The charging rule says you can't go over a long distance to hit someone.
- Slump Buster



Okay so its a minor. 2 minutes not 2 games.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 3 @ 12:03 PM ET
It was intent to injure which is a suspendable offense

he gonnneee

- Hank Balling


No intent but he did injure.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 3 @ 12:05 PM ET
He hits him clean. doesnt skate into him. Doesnt leave the feet. Doesnt have point of contact to the head.

Is just bigger and stronger and is prepared to smash.

Evans has his head up the play is different.

- DirtyDan

There's only a inch or so difference in the players, so he's supposed to look up instead of scoring the goal. The hit was unnecessary, he was not trying to stop a goal.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:05 PM ET
Wwere not talking about a hit from behind here.
- DirtyDan

No we are talking about what they teach you in tyke, yet you only acknowledged one aspect.

They also teach you not to charge, they also teach you not to go out of your way to hit players.

Also doesnt leave his feet...... lol
Doesn't lead with elbow/arm.....
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 3 @ 12:06 PM ET
Okay so its a minor. 2 minutes not 2 games.
- DirtyDan



As with other penalties there are varying levels of degree. If that's only a 2 minute penalty I'd hate to see a match penalty for charging.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 3 @ 12:07 PM ET
No intent but he did injure.
- DirtyDan


What would you say his intent was, if not to injure? It certainly wasn't to prevent a goal
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 3 @ 12:08 PM ET
No we are talking about what they teach you in tyke, yet you only acknowledged one aspect.

They also teach you not to charge, they also teach you not to go out of your way to hit players.

Also doesnt leave his feet...... lol
Doesn't lead with elbow/arm.....

- ImThatGuy


Hows he going out of his way to hit him ITS A BACKCHECK.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 3 @ 12:08 PM ET
No we are talking about what they teach you in tyke, yet you only acknowledged one aspect.

They also teach you not to charge, they also teach you not to go out of your way to hit players.

Also doesnt leave his feet...... lol
Doesn't lead with elbow/arm.....

- ImThatGuy


Your also showing mid hit not intial point of contact which is shoulder to chest.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 3 @ 12:09 PM ET
So do you trade back a few spots and get the forward and grab a asset.
- Buff36


If you look at the point of view of buffalo

You're likely losing jack,sam

You have 3 LHD prospects that are going to be very good

Do you draft power and make Dahlin move to right" hoping it works out" and Sacrificing a center

We all remembered what happened to casey when he was forced into the 2nd line now we might be doing that to cozens

This power pick is harder then everyone thinks
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 3 @ 12:12 PM ET
Hows he going out of his way to hit him ITS A BACKCHECK.
- DirtyDan



The mere fact that he never tried to play the puck and TRY to prevent a goal is the reason. IMO all he had on his mind was i am going to blow this guy up.

And the fact that he skated all the way back at full speed is CHARGING...

charging "shall mean the actions of a player or goalkeeper who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 3 @ 12:12 PM ET
Oh boy is this ever wrong. How many 20 year olds you work with at your personal fish store or on unemployment?

I see more middle aged men on their phones than anyone else.

Also love the “ I’m a team lead I need it to text my supervisor” haha okay buddy that’s why I walked up behind you and caught you looking at pics of Carrie Underwood

- BeadyEyedDouche

yeah I never go out and see it in stores on a daily basis


never



maybe they are more respectful in lockport or columbus
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 3 @ 12:15 PM ET
Hopefully buffalo has a plan in place we have have a pretty good LHD prospects coming up

Johnson, Samuelsson

If you draft power then Dahlin has to move to right i hope people realize that this is a huge franchise decision and not an easy one

- gerbe75pts

or you do a prospect swap with a team and get a winger or C
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 3 @ 12:16 PM ET
Hows he going out of his way to hit him ITS A BACKCHECK.
- DirtyDan


He didn't go out of his way, but that's irrelevant when it comes to charging. He went a long way to make the hit and that's what matters.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 3 @ 12:21 PM ET
or you do a prospect swap with a team and get a winger or C
- SabresFaninIndiana


I like Samuelsson alot he could be the brooks orpik back bone

And ryan johnsoni dont see him having much value due to him not being signed ( package deal)

I wonder what Johnson is felling also i dont think he wants to be 4th on the depth cart
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 3 @ 12:22 PM ET
If you look at the point of view of buffalo

You're likely losing jack,sam

You have 3 LHD prospects that are going to be very good

Do you draft power and make Dahlin move to right" hoping it works out" and Sacrificing a center

We all remembered what happened to casey when he was forced into the 2nd line now we might be doing that to cozens

This power pick is harder then everyone thinks

- gerbe75pts


I am on the Eklund/Beniers train.

However if they do select Power they could easily still have them on separate pairs.

It will take Power a couple of years even to be worthy of top pair minutes anyways so if at that point Dahlin moves to the right side than so be it.

Power should go back to college (if he is the pick) and if he does not go back to college he should be getting bottom pairing minutes until he proves himself worthy of top 4 minutes.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 3 @ 12:24 PM ET
He didn't go out of his way, but that's irrelevant when it comes to charging. He went a long way to make the hit and that's what matters.
- Slump Buster

and if the hit was a fraction of a second earlier

there is no goal


I mean the job is to prevent him from scoring the goal



the league wants it to be a fast pace games and stuff like this is going to happen from time to time


it's not like scheifele has a history of this
Shady1962
Joined: 02.06.2021

Jun 3 @ 12:25 PM ET
The endless Buffalo rebuild continues and by the very fact that they are even considering Rick Tocchet as there next head coach tells me that once again they won't get It right.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 3 @ 12:26 PM ET
Okay so its a minor. 2 minutes not 2 games.
- DirtyDan


Game sheet indicates charging major and a game misconduct called on Scheifele.

https://twitter.com/Fried.../1400275854769463300?s=19
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 3 @ 12:28 PM ET
Game sheet indicates charging major and a game misconduct called on Scheifele.

https://twitter.com/Fried.../1400275854769463300?s=19

- kingcong39

if evans got up and skated away it's not even a penalty

prove me wrong
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 3 @ 12:28 PM ET
I am on the Eklund/Beniers train.

However if they do select Power they could easily still have them on separate pairs.

It will take Power a couple of years even to be worthy of top pair minutes anyways so if at that point Dahlin moves to the right side than so be it.

Power should go back to college (if he is the pick) and if he does not go back to college he should be getting bottom pairing minutes until he proves himself worthy of top 4 minutes.

- Pegullaville


Or top pairing minutes in the A. The beauty of going the college route instead of the CHL.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 3 @ 12:29 PM ET
As with other penalties there are varying levels of degree. If that's only a 2 minute penalty I'd hate to see a match penalty for charging.
- Slump Buster


It was a 5 minute major and a 10 minute misconduct.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 3 @ 12:29 PM ET
I am on the Eklund/Beniers train.

However if they do select Power they could easily still have them on separate pairs.

It will take Power a couple of years even to be worthy of top pair minutes anyways so if at that point Dahlin moves to the right side than so be it.

Power should go back to college (if he is the pick) and if he does not go back to college he should be getting bottom pairing minutes until he proves himself worthy of top 4 minutes.

- Pegullaville


If they select powers they're also moving Johnson down the depth chart making free agency more likey

Buffalo has to do the homework lots of players will be affected by this Decision.

If they go forward no players affected when you're moving on from jack,sam with no depth at wing or center ( less work lol)


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