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K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jun 4 @ 11:47 AM ET
Bruins f*ucking blow dude. Would be great to see Marchand get corked. Go Isles!!


- LordHumungous

I still see Marchand violating the Sedins and Vigneault telling everyone to look the other way and the refs will take care of it.
Big mistake by the coach.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 4 @ 11:47 AM ET
Ya think? (sarcasm)
- DraftandDestroy


You think it's obvious, but some people in this thread don't think so
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 4 @ 11:48 AM ET
Doesn't Tampa have a Stanley Cup to cushion their tight cap?
- Marwood


I think that made it worse. Probably some performance bonuses. If they were smart they'd lose so they didn't (frank) over their cap even more
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 4 @ 11:49 AM ET
Canucks are top 3 worst cap teams.

Tampa's cap is worse numbers-wise, but they have positive-value assets to trade off to get them under (while also be a top team in the league).

Canucks cap problems are being created by terrible contracts that have negative value. Not as easy to escape that (while being one of the worst teams in the league).

So, overall, I'd say Vancouver is in a worse spot than Tampa.

- NewYorkNuck


I am still trying to figure out how Tampa was able to be over the 10% of salary cap upper limit last summer. That is a masterful job of cap circumvention.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 4 @ 11:51 AM ET
I am still trying to figure out how Tampa was able to be over the 10% of salary cap upper limit last summer. That is a masterful job of cap circumvention.
- Reubenkincade


I'm guessing LTIR? Players can be on LTIR in the summer/to start the year.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 4 @ 11:57 AM ET
Sooner Edler is gone the better. Just like Tanev.
- LordHumungous

ya hughes was so much better without Tanev
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 4 @ 11:59 AM ET
I'm guessing LTIR? Players can be on LTIR in the summer/to start the year.
- NewYorkNuck


Ya, I have no idea. Every time I read up on ltir and cap rules regarding this, I come up with about 90 million that is allowable.
Wtf do I know though.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 4 @ 11:59 AM ET
Reinhart says he wants to play on the westcoast.
- K-man25

Narrows it down to 5 teams that could all be interested, one of whom cant afford to sign him.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jun 4 @ 11:59 AM ET
ya hughes was so much better without Tanev
- neem55

We’ll trade him back for 9oa. Problem solved.
No we don’t want sh!tty Schmidty, thanks though.
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Jun 4 @ 11:59 AM ET
I still see Marchand violating the Sedins and Vigneault telling everyone to look the other way and the refs will take care of it.
Big mistake by the coach.

- K-man25

Vantel would insert a GIF of Marchand continually punching Daniel Sedin here
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 4 @ 12:05 PM ET
I think that made it worse. Probably some performance bonuses. If they were smart they'd lose so they didn't (frank) over their cap even more
- NewYorkNuck

Yet they use Tampa as an example of another team up against the cap.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 4 @ 12:07 PM ET
ya hughes was so much better without Tanev
- neem55


Schmidt was a massive upgrade.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 4 @ 12:08 PM ET
Vantel would insert a GIF of Marchand continually punching Daniel Sedin here
- DraftandDestroy


I would if I knew how.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 4 @ 12:09 PM ET
Schmidt was a massive upgrade.
- Reubenkincade

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 4 @ 12:11 PM ET
Canucks are top 3 worst cap teams.

Tampa's cap is worse numbers-wise, but they have positive-value assets to trade off to get them under (while also be a top team in the league).

Canucks cap problems are being created by terrible contracts that have negative value. Not as easy to escape that (while being one of the worst teams in the league).

So, overall, I'd say Vancouver is in a worse spot than Tampa.

- NewYorkNuck


I dont even think its close lol

Tampa is going to go to the Stanley cup finals again (most likely) and can trade any of their top 6 for assets all the while shedding Cap. No one is going to pay a hefty price for myers/LE/schmidt. These three players take up 21% of our Cap next year. No one is taking Beagle, roussel or ferland either (ferland LTIR and perhaps Beagle, but regardless, they wouldn't be traded for if healthy). It's night and day, how one team can remain competitive while being right up to the cap, and the other can't.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 4 @ 12:14 PM ET
Schmidt was a massive upgrade.
- Reubenkincade

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 4 @ 12:15 PM ET
I dont even think its close lol

Tampa is going to go to the Stanley cup finals again (most likely) and can trade any of their top 6 for assets all the while shedding Cap. No one is going to pay a hefty price for myers/LE/schmidt. These three players take up 21% of our Cap next year. No one is taking Beagle, roussel or ferland either (ferland LTIR and perhaps Beagle, but regardless, they wouldn't be traded for if healthy). It's night and day, how one team can remain competitive while being right up to the cap, and the other can't.

- Codes1087

Well, the Canucks are compliant every year.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 4 @ 12:17 PM ET

- Marwood


I am waiting for Nucker to tell me he had a down year and how he had 3 decent seasons in a row playing on a couple pretty good teams.
Even Lefty would have looked good on Washington or Vegas.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 4 @ 12:20 PM ET
I dont even think its close lol

Tampa is going to go to the Stanley cup finals again (most likely) and can trade any of their top 6 for assets all the while shedding Cap. No one is going to pay a hefty price for myers/LE/schmidt. These three players take up 21% of our Cap next year. No one is taking Beagle, roussel or ferland either (ferland LTIR and perhaps Beagle, but regardless, they wouldn't be traded for if healthy). It's night and day, how one team can remain competitive while being right up to the cap, and the other can't.

- Codes1087


I don't think many of us think it even close... but every group has its laggards
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Jun 4 @ 12:21 PM ET
Well, the Canucks are compliant every year.
- Marwood

It's hard to fathom someone thinking that just because you're compliant that you've spent well. The Canucks are one the the worst cap managed teams in the entire league, and now, they have few tradable, if any, players with poor cap hits that they can move to free up money.

The whole organization is a mess from ownership to management, which is why I refuse to support them any longer.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 4 @ 12:26 PM ET
I dont even think its close lol

Tampa is going to go to the Stanley cup finals again (most likely) and can trade any of their top 6 for assets all the while shedding Cap. No one is going to pay a hefty price for myers/LE/schmidt. These three players take up 21% of our Cap next year. No one is taking Beagle, roussel or ferland either (ferland LTIR and perhaps Beagle, but regardless, they wouldn't be traded for if healthy). It's night and day, how one team can remain competitive while being right up to the cap, and the other can't.

- Codes1087


Toronto is in for a world of pain too this coming season. They will be paying their 2nd line centre $11M (and his name is not Malkin). Their d-core is a mess and their bottom six will all need to be replaced. Plus, they have very little picks this coming draft. Not looking great in Hogtown.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 4 @ 12:26 PM ET
It's hard to fathom someone thinking that just because you're compliant that you've spent well. The Canucks are one the the worst cap managed teams in the entire league, and now, they have few tradable, if any, players with poor cap hits that they can move to free up money.

The whole organization is a mess from ownership to management, which is why I refuse to support them any longer.

- DraftandDestroy


It's a good thing Benning will turn it all around by being aggressive in free agency again. What could go wrong?
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 4 @ 12:27 PM ET
It's hard to fathom someone thinking that just because you're compliant that you've spent well. The Canucks are one the the worst cap managed teams in the entire league, and now, they have few tradable, if any, players with poor cap hits that they can move to free up money.

The whole organization is a mess from ownership to management, which is why I refuse to support them any longer.

- DraftandDestroy

Yup, a total disgrace.
It should be interesting to see how they can f*ck it up even further, this summer.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 4 @ 12:28 PM ET
Schmidt was a massive upgrade.
- Reubenkincade


I’ll never forgive Nucker for getting my hopes up. He just gushed all over the thread when that trade went down.

God damn you Nucker!!!
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 4 @ 12:29 PM ET
It's a good thing Benning will turn it all around by being aggressive in free agency again. What could go wrong?
- NewYorkNuck

Aggressive in free agency and trading.
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