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6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jun 2 @ 10:50 PM ET
I just dunno, I think that was a huge neck or spinal injury.

I hope it isn't that serious, but once the puck went in, I not even sure how Mark Scheifele can slow enough and avoid that was the intent, and the jets were in full thrust.

He has got to get suspended.

No pun intended.

- wiz1901



Evans has to know he's being chased, and the guy chasing him isn't going to follow him behind the net but head him off at the pass. Hockey play, not an attempt to injure Evans. Evans never looked. Scheifele was only a small fraction of a second late and had nowhere to go when he got there, Evans stepped on the tracks without looking. It's not good he got hurt but he's as responsible for any injury as Scheifele.
In my opinion.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 2 @ 10:57 PM ET
Evans has to know he's being chased, and the guy chasing him isn't going to follow him behind the net but head him off at the pass. Hockey play, not an attempt to injure Evans. Evans never looked. Scheifele was only a small fraction of a second late and had nowhere to go when he got there, Evans stepped on the tracks without looking. It's not good he got hurt but he's as responsible for any injury as Scheifele.
In my opinion.

- 6628

In the old NHL you’re right. But Evans is in a vulnerable position and in todays NHL the onus isn’t on the player to protect himself but on the player making the hit. Scheifele should get a game or two.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jun 2 @ 11:04 PM ET
In the old NHL you’re right. But Evans is in a vulnerable position and in todays NHL the onus isn’t on the player to protect himself but on the player making the hit. Scheifele should get a game or two.
- paulr



I'm not saying you're wrong. But, respectfully, Scheifele wasn't racing down there to hit him. He was trying to keep him from scoring, was a fraction of a second late, and had nowhere to go after Evans turned right into his path without looking. If the play wasn't as close no way it happens like that. It's dangerous to play the game with your head down like Evans did.
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Jun 2 @ 11:12 PM ET
I'm not saying you're wrong. But, respectfully, Scheifele wasn't racing down there to hit him. He was trying to keep him from scoring, was a fraction of a second late, and had nowhere to go after Evans turned right into his path without looking. If the play wasn't as close no way it happens like that. It's dangerous to play the game with your head down like Evans did.
- 6628


Put down the crack pipe and take another look at the replay in slow motion. Sheifele could have prevented the puck from going in if he had any interest in playing the puck with his stick. Instead, he tucks his shoulders in and goes for Evans's upper body.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jun 2 @ 11:18 PM ET
Put down the crack pipe and take another look at the replay in slow motion. Sheifele could have prevented the puck from going in if he had any interest in playing the puck with his stick. Instead, he tucks his shoulders in and goes for Evans's upper body.
- Dieselhead



I did not see the play in question, but I am getting tired of people who say "look at the play in slow motion". Life is not in slow motion. So no do lot look at it in slow motion, watch the play at live speed, and judge it by that.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jun 2 @ 11:25 PM ET
Put down the crack pipe and take another look at the replay in slow motion. Sheifele could have prevented the puck from going in if he had any interest in playing the puck with his stick. Instead, he tucks his shoulders in and goes for Evans's upper body.
- Dieselhead



Slow motion my ass. Try turning a corner in your car without looking into oncoming traffic sometime and then tell the cop it's the other guys fault.
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Jun 2 @ 11:26 PM ET
I did not see the play in question, but I am getting tired of people who say "look at the play in slow motion". Life is not in slow motion. So no do lot look at it in slow motion, watch the play at live speed, and judge it by that.
- powerenforcer


It's easier to see that Scheifele had no intention of playing the puck. On hits from behind when a guy turns his back or questionable knee on knee collisions, I agree with you about the speed of the game making it difficult for viewers to judge intentions of players, but in this case it was obvious, Schiefele wasn't even looking at the puck, and watching it in slow motion will make that clear to anyone watching.
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Jun 2 @ 11:33 PM ET
Slow motion my ass. Try turning a corner in your car without looking into oncoming traffic sometime and then tell the cop it's the other guys fault.
- 6628


Stop the video at 6:51 and it's obvious Scheifele is focused on what his right shoulder can do to Evans's head and not what his left arm can do with his stick to keep the puck out. The game was over at this point. Scheifele was trying to send a message and he went too far. I hope that he's suspended for the rest of the playoffs and that Evans is okay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlgnemTo4TM&t=24s
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 2 @ 11:38 PM ET
Slow motion my ass. Try turning a corner in your car without looking into oncoming traffic sometime and then tell the cop it's the other guys fault.
- 6628


I have no idea how the league will rule (especially considering their ruling on T. Wilson), but you can see that Scheifele was not playing the puck without slow motion. That is what will be the most heavily considered aspect of the hit.

In his favor was that the head was not the principle point of contact and he did not leave his feet. What will be against him is the fact that is was considered charging and the overall force of the hit (regardless of what anyone thinks about whose fault it was).
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jun 2 @ 11:49 PM ET
Evans has to know he's being chased, and the guy chasing him isn't going to follow him behind the net but head him off at the pass. Hockey play, not an attempt to injure Evans. Evans never looked. Scheifele was only a small fraction of a second late and had nowhere to go when he got there, Evans stepped on the tracks without looking. It's not good he got hurt but he's as responsible for any injury as Scheifele.
In my opinion.

- 6628

It was a Richard head play because if you're actually trying to stop an empty net goal you go for a stick check you don't try smash the guy through the boards. He did it because he was pissy all game and they lost. It's the equivalent of a football player just saying f*** it and hitting punt returner even though he's called for a fair catch
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jun 2 @ 11:54 PM ET
Look gang, I understand and like the rule of protecting a player in a vulnerable position. But Evans put himself in that position blindly. I just heard Edzo say head on a swivel. A guy can't keep his head down like that and turn into a guy like that. When he wakes up ask Evans if he should have had his head up and I'll bet he says yes.

I'm not trying to be completely unsympathetic, I don't wish Evans any harm, and I hope he's ok. He thought he had a gimmee but not so much. But how is the NHL supposed to protect a guy who won't protect himself? It doesn't matter how many games they give Scheifele, if Evans won't keep his head up he's going to get smoked again.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 3 @ 12:27 AM ET
The Athletic has the Hawks drafting Coronato in the first round. If that’s the case, do the Hawks trade down and take him 15-20 and add another asset (2nd or 3rd round pick)? If Wallstedt is available when the Hawks draft there make some teams willing to pay a premium to draft him.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jun 3 @ 12:33 AM ET
Look gang, I understand and like the rule of protecting a player in a vulnerable position. But Evans put himself in that position blindly. I just heard Edzo say head on a swivel. A guy can't keep his head down like that and turn into a guy like that. When he wakes up ask Evans if he should have had his head up and I'll bet he says yes.

I'm not trying to be completely unsympathetic, I don't wish Evans any harm, and I hope he's ok. He thought he had a gimmee but not so much. But how is the NHL supposed to protect a guy who won't protect himself? It doesn't matter how many games they give Scheifele, if Evans won't keep his head up he's going to get smoked again.

- 6628

You and Edsel are both morons then. This was a completely unnecessary play he didn't even try play the puck which is the object of the f****** game
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 3 @ 12:50 AM ET
The Athletic has the Hawks drafting Coronato in the first round. If that’s the case, do the Hawks trade down and take him 15-20 and add another asset (2nd or 3rd round pick)? If Wallstedt is available when the Hawks draft there make some teams willing to pay a premium to draft him.
- DarthKane


Did they give a reason, or just "we think he's pretty good and will still be on the board"?
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Jun 3 @ 1:11 AM ET
You and Edsel are both morons then. This was a completely unnecessary play he didn't even try play the puck which is the object of the f****** game
- GPHawksfan


So far, best recap of the Scheifele hit that I've seen. Scheifele stops skating and gives up on the puck 20 feet in front of the net because all he's focused on is the hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxBL85rr0jI&t=141s
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jun 3 @ 1:31 AM ET
You and Edsel are both morons then. This was a completely unnecessary play he didn't even try play the puck which is the object of the f****** game
- GPHawksfan



Ok GP, let's say you're right. When was the decision made to run Evans? At the other blue line? I mean when?
I'll check in the morning, hitting the sack. Good night to all.
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 3 @ 1:33 AM ET
Did they give a reason, or just "we think he's pretty good and will still be on the board"?
- Chunk

Powers actually confirmed interest in the comments of that article. He said the Hawks have best asking around on him, and that’s why he changed his mock pick to him instead of Sillinger.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 3 @ 2:44 AM ET
D Sikura drew into the Vegas lineup.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jun 3 @ 4:03 AM ET
New blog! An early preview of the Blackhawks picking 11th in the opening round of the 2021 NHL Draft.

Plus, a look at the IceHogs re-signing one of their top players in Dylan McLaughlin.

https://bit.ly/3cdIoge
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