I'd probably give up a 2nd to take Matheson from the Pens.

If you crazy Montreal fans want to pay to get rid of Weber, I'd 100% take him on the Pens.

Jets trade Niku and their 2022 3rd Round Pick (or Columbus' if it's earlier) to the Kraken in order to have Seattle "look the other way" when Copp OR Appleton and Demelo OR Stanley remain exposed.

We will give you Parise and Dumba for the whopping price of FREE!

Ottawa says hello and says take who you want. We learned our lesson losing Methot to Vegas - sometimes you gotta lose a guy, accept it and move on.

Taking on Bob's contract will cost Florida a first and a player.

And are people not watching Price in last/this year's playoffs? He is the only reason they are in on any playoff series. Insane people want to give him away. Yes, that contract will hurt in 3 yrs but all 8+ year deals hurt in the last 3 years.
- GrimmdaGoalie

So you are saying Price has 5 years left on his contract. His play will likely decline in the last 3 years of the contract. So the team getting Price has $52.5 mil cap hit for two years as an elite goalie and 3 years of pretty good. And that is if he does not have more injuries, which are more likely as he enters his mid to lay 30’s. Count me out.

Name the teams that Price could make a serious Cup contender that have an extra $10.5 mil in cap space.

Jets trade Niku and their 2022 3rd Round Pick (or Columbus' if it's earlier) to the Kraken in order to have Seattle "look the other way" when Copp OR Appleton and Demelo OR Stanley remain exposed.
- Quillanrocks

Look at what it cost teams to make vegas look away and try again.

Philly trades our 1st and Nicolas Aube-Kubel for Seattle to take JVR.
- arichardson22

You might as well add the 2022 1st and 2023 1st as well if you plan on the Flyers to give away assets for free.

They will probably take JvR anyway.

Really? The Kraken want a 33 year old goalie who has never won a cup that they have to pay $10.5 mil for 5 more years. NOT! Canadiens would need to pay big time to get the Kraken to take either Price or Weber.

Teams may take a first for Price or Weber if Montreal retains half salary for the length of the contract.
- Ztra

The Fleury thing worked out for Vegas. They also need to spend to the base of the cap so it is not that bad a contract. Mtl could retain 2-3,

The Fleury thing worked out for Vegas. They also need to spend to the base of the cap so it is not that bad a contract. Mtl could retain 2-3,
- Fonzi

They can’t retain if Seattle is picking them. It would have to be a trade. Then what’s the point.

You might as well add the 2022 1st and 2023 1st as well if you plan on the Flyers to give away assets for free.

They will probably take JvR anyway.
- Glak18

Why?

It’s unfortunate that one of the only realistic proposals on this thread gets shut down.

The Fleury thing worked out for Vegas. They also need to spend to the base of the cap so it is not that bad a contract. Mtl could retain 2-3,
- Fonzi

Very different. Fleury’s cap hit was $5.75 mil and their were only two years left when Vegas drafted him. He would be 34 when that contract expired.

Why?

It’s unfortunate that one of the only realistic proposals on this thread gets shut down.
- ChrisMS

JVR was actually really good this year.

Why?

It’s unfortunate that one of the only realistic proposals on this thread gets shut down.
- ChrisMS

Yes, it would have to be a trade. It won’t happen anyways as Mtl will never do a full rebuild.

Honestly I think jvr gets taken unless they get heavy salary elsewhere. He played the most complete game of his career, improved effort on the d side and can score. Philly had problems this year but he ain’t one of em

Why?

It’s unfortunate that one of the only realistic proposals on this thread gets shut down.
- ChrisMS

Thank you, sir. I thought I was pretty reasonable too haha

Honestly I think jvr gets taken unless they get heavy salary elsewhere. He played the most complete game of his career, improved effort on the d side and can score. Philly had problems this year but he ain’t one of em
- GPerogie

I go back and forth. Other options include Ghost and Justin Braun.

Look at what it cost teams to make vegas look away and try again.
- ChrisMS

And how much chatter has there been that teams regret those decisions looking back? . . .and that it will be different this time around?? I'm sure some that some first rounders, top prospects, and impact players will move, but I think teams will do it not only to protect other assets, but also shed salary (cap space) if Seattle is willing, especially in this new economy.

If I'm WPG, that's my offer to Seattle. If that doesn't cut it then we roll the dice. I would protect Appleton and not Copp, Stanley and not Demelo. The Kraken's top choices are arguably Copp, Harkins, or Demelo. Hate to lose them, but I'm not trading first rounders, top prospects, or more important (obviously) players off my roster to keep them.

And how much chatter has there been that teams regret those decisions looking back? . . .and that it will be different this time around?? I'm sure some that some first rounders, top prospects, and impact players will move, but I think teams will do it not only to protect other assets, but also shed salary (cap space) if Seattle is willing, especially in this new economy.

If I'm WPG, that's my offer to Seattle. If that doesn't cut it then we roll the dice. I would protect Appleton and not Copp, Stanley and not Demelo. The Kraken's top choices are arguably Copp, Harkins, or Demelo. Hate to lose them, but I'm not trading first rounders, top prospects, or more important (obviously) players off my roster to keep them.
- Quillanrocks

1st. As a rule... no... a law. Like a law of physics... nhl gms do not learn.

2nd. Vegas didn’t have a COVID induced flat cap to work with. They were actually disadvantaged compared to Seattle in expansion draft.

1st. As a rule... no... a law. Like a law of physics... nhl gms do not learn.

2nd. Vegas didn’t have a COVID induced flat cap to work with. They were actually disadvantaged compared to Seattle in expansion draft.
- ChrisMS

No doubt. The Jets traded a 1st Rounder in the Vegas ED, but they got a later 1st Rounder in return. (CBJ's, I believe?)

Hey, if I'm wrong and Chevy trades a Jets 1st Rounder again, I won't be shocked. And honestly, if it's this year's first I won't be too upset. Such a crazy year . . . this year's entry eligible players are anyone's guess!

But we're playing armchair GM here. If I'm GM, that's my offer: "Francis, I'll give you 2 extra assets additional to the 1 the league is making me give you, IF you turn a blind eye and pretend a couple other names aren't there. But if you're happy with just 1 of our available players, all the power to you. Welcome to the NHL! (Again, in my imaginary world, the "top" players Jets expose are Copp, Harkins, and Demelo.)

I'm curious to hear Sean Maloughney thoughts

Why?

It’s unfortunate that one of the only realistic proposals on this thread gets shut down.
- ChrisMS

It is a realistic proposal...if it was for the Vegas expansion, but Seattle is NOT getting the same treatment that Vegas did. People seem to think that because Vegas has had success that Seattle will do the same with a new crop of players, it's not happening. It really is going to be slim pickings for Seattle.

Honestly I think jvr gets taken unless they get heavy salary elsewhere. He played the most complete game of his career, improved effort on the d side and can score. Philly had problems this year but he ain’t one of em
- GPerogie

I agree, and I’m fine with keeping JvR for now. However, if Seth Jones really doesn’t wanna sign with Columbus and you could pry him away using the salary dump, then I’d be just fine with it.

But that’s a big if.

It is a realistic proposal...if it was for the Vegas expansion, but Seattle is NOT getting the same treatment that Vegas did. People seem to think that because Vegas has had success that Seattle will do the same with a new crop of players, it's not happening. It really is going to be slim pickings for Seattle.
- Glak18

See above. Seattle is in a better position than vegas was.

I agree, and I’m fine with keeping JvR for now. However, if Seth Jones really doesn’t wanna sign with Columbus and you could pry him away using the salary dump, then I’d be just fine with it.

But that’s a big if.
- Hesh_

I would do a whole lot to get Jones or Dumba n Philly, He checks more than one box on what this team is missing and I think would be a fan favorite overnight.

And how much chatter has there been that teams regret those decisions looking back? . . .and that it will be different this time around?? I'm sure some that some first rounders, top prospects, and impact players will move, but I think teams will do it not only to protect other assets, but also shed salary (cap space) if Seattle is willing, especially in this new economy.

If I'm WPG, that's my offer to Seattle. If that doesn't cut it then we roll the dice. I would protect Appleton and not Copp, Stanley and not Demelo. The Kraken's top choices are arguably Copp, Harkins, or Demelo. Hate to lose them, but I'm not trading first rounders, top prospects, or more important (obviously) players off my roster to keep them.
- Quillanrocks

Then you will definitely lose Copp . I’m not , not taking Copp for a second . I’m all over it .

Bobrovsky and Yandle for a bucket of poop. You get what you are giving.

Then you will definitely lose Copp . I’m not , not taking Copp for a second . I’m all over it .
- Allforhim12

As I mentioned, it wouldn't surprise or be too upsetting if Winnipeg traded their 1st this year for expansion considerations, but as a general principle, I think it's a bad practice for the Jets. Winnipeg is arguably the least favorable destination to draw free agents. Draft and develop is the only course for the Jets. And yes, Copp is a product of that Winnipeg strategy, but as much as I like him, his numbers this year are an anomaly, IMO. If the Jets were to trade him (and they may just do that this off-season, so as NOT to lose him for nothing to Seattle), I seriously doubt his return would be a 1st Round pick. Trading a 1st to Seattle to keep him seems foolhardy.