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Jackie Daytona
Joined: 10.09.2020

May 19 @ 8:10 PM ET
Not an elite player/difference maker? Wut. He was over ppg in the two seasons prior to this one in that dumpster fire organization. Lol who do you consider elite?
- apex123




This seems to be a lax different definition of the term "Elite". Generally speaking, a powerplay specialist is not considered an Elite player.

To be considered Elite, a forward must be multifaceted and able to excel at multiple aspects of the game. Any Elite player has the gifts to lead their franchise out of the cellar. Without a doubt, Eichel is a highly valuable asset and gifted player. With a bit of coaching he may yet develop into an Elite level player, but he has not shown it yet.

Even the Sabres are aware of his limitations. This is why they foolishly decided to sign Staal in the off-season. They wanted him for high-risk defensive zone coverage where Eichel has not been reliable.
Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

May 19 @ 8:10 PM ET
Not an elite player/difference maker? Wut. He was over ppg in the two seasons prior to this one in that dumpster fire organization. Lol who do you consider elite?
- apex123



He had a bad year this year for hime but the year prior Eichel was a top 5 player in the league. He can be dominant. He's big, can skate, is competitive and not afraid of contact.
It would be worth giving up a good young player like Suzuki and more to get him, if he has his head on straight
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

May 19 @ 8:22 PM ET


This seems to be a lax different definition of the term "Elite". Generally speaking, a powerplay specialist is not considered an Elite player.

To be considered Elite, a forward must be multifaceted and able to excel at multiple aspects of the game. Any Elite player has the gifts to lead their franchise out of the cellar. Eichel, a valuable asset, has proven to a gifted player, but he has not demonstrated elite level status.

- Jackie Daytona


Are you talking about generational talent vs elite?

Active NHL players:

To me generational talents are: Crosby, McDavid, maybe Matthews

Elite: Malkin, Marner, Draisaitl, Stamkos, Kucherov etc. Eichel maybe on the cusp to elite
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

May 19 @ 8:25 PM ET
Are you talking about generational talent vs elite?

Active NHL players:

To me generational talents are: Crosby, McDavid, maybe Matthews

Elite: Malkin, Marner, Draisaitl, Stamkos, Kucherov etc. Eichel maybe on the cusp to elite

- habs88888

you are a generational poster
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

May 19 @ 8:27 PM ET
you are a generational poster
- mr.peanut


You are an elite pornstar
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

May 19 @ 8:28 PM ET
You are an elite pornstar
- habs88888

i'm looking for a new fluffer. Interested?
Réal_Ruelle
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3333 pommes, NT
Joined: 01.13.2021

May 19 @ 8:29 PM ET
impossible, she just went to get me a beer
- fidopro


and never came back.
Jackie Daytona
Joined: 10.09.2020

May 19 @ 8:29 PM ET
Are you talking about generational talent vs elite?

Active NHL players:

To me generational talents are: Crosby, McDavid, maybe Matthews

Elite: Malkin, Marner, Draisaitl, Stamkos, Kucherov etc. Eichel maybe on the cusp to elite

- habs88888


I agree 100%. These, and many others, are elite level players.
Eichel is on the cusp, but hasn't developed into an elite player yet.

I find the real questions are: Does he want to come to Montreal, can a favourable deal be found, and do the Habs have the ability to coach and motivate him to become an elite player?
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

May 19 @ 8:29 PM ET
i'm looking for a new fluffer. Interested?
- mr.peanut


I respectfully decline
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

May 19 @ 8:33 PM ET
I agree 100%. These, and many others, are elite level players.
Eichel is on the cusp, but hasn't developed into an elite player yet.

I find the real questions are: Does he want to come to Montreal, can a favourable deal be found, and do the Habs have the ability to coach and motivate him to become an elite player?

- Jackie Daytona


With MB this deal is not happening, unless there is a new GM
henny1953
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Aalborg
Joined: 02.10.2010

May 19 @ 8:35 PM ET
Get a room.
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

May 19 @ 8:43 PM ET
I respectfully decline
- habs88888

rude
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

May 19 @ 8:56 PM ET
He had a bad year this year for hime but the year prior Eichel was a top 5 player in the league. He can be dominant. He's big, can skate, is competitive and not afraid of contact.
It would be worth giving up a good young player like Suzuki and more to get him, if he has his head on straight

- Rang

Not according to the pro scout, he can't carry his team out of the cellar so he's just good.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

May 19 @ 8:58 PM ET


This seems to be a lax different definition of the term "Elite". Generally speaking, a powerplay specialist is not considered an Elite player.

To be considered Elite, a forward must be multifaceted and able to excel at multiple aspects of the game. Any Elite player has the gifts to lead their franchise out of the cellar. Without a doubt, Eichel is a highly valuable asset and gifted player. With a bit of coaching he may yet develop into an Elite level player, but he has not shown it yet.

Even the Sabres are aware of his limitations. This is why they foolishly decided to sign Staal in the off-season. They wanted him for high-risk defensive zone coverage where Eichel has not been reliable.

- Jackie Daytona

Well his offensive abilities are certainly in the upper echelon of elite, you can't argue that. If you want to say he sucks otherwise I have no interest of banging my head into a wall arguing with you.
AGalchenyuk27
Dallas Stars
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

May 19 @ 8:58 PM ET
Marchy!!
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

May 19 @ 9:04 PM ET
Marchy!!
- AGalchenyuk27

no no
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

May 19 @ 9:09 PM ET
no no
- kicksave856

on on
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

May 19 @ 9:16 PM ET
Are you talking about generational talent vs elite?

Active NHL players:

To me generational talents are: Crosby, McDavid, maybe Matthews

Elite: Malkin, Marner, Draisaitl, Stamkos, Kucherov etc. Eichel maybe on the cusp to elite

- habs88888

I have doubts Marner would be called elite if he wasnt playing with Matthews. If I was building a team right now I'd take Eichel over Stamkos as well.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

May 19 @ 9:19 PM ET
on on
- mr.peanut

mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

May 19 @ 9:31 PM ET

- kicksave856

hello!
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

May 19 @ 10:09 PM ET
I have doubts Marner would be called elite if he wasnt playing with Matthews. If I was building a team right now I'd take Eichel over Stamkos as well.
- apex123


Maybe it’s the other way around with Matthews lol

There are a lot of guys that I don’t have on this list, Ovechkin, MacKinnon, Rantanen being in the elite as well amongst others, too many to name

Definitely want to build the team around elite healthy players
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

May 19 @ 10:17 PM ET
Maybe it’s the other way around with Matthews lol

There are a lot of guys that I don’t have on this list, Ovechkin, MacKinnon, Rantanen being in the elite as well amongst others, too many to name

- habs88888

Marner would still be very good on his own, but I think playing with Matthews makes him look a bit better. Matthews' release is so deadly he could probably still be elite playing with Byron and Armia (hyperbole but still). No debate with the rest of the names. They're all absolutely elite. Colorado is my pick to win both because they should be the most hungry and the MacKinnon line has to be the best line in the NHL.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

May 19 @ 10:19 PM ET
Hello!
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

May 19 @ 10:19 PM ET
Marner would still be very good on his own, but I think playing with Matthews makes him look a bit better. Matthews' release is so deadly he could probably still be elite playing with Byron and Armia (hyperbole but still). No debate with the rest of the names. They're all absolutely elite. Colorado is my pick to win both because they should be the most hungry and the MacKinnon line has to be the best line in the NHL.
- apex123


Would rather have COL win than TB that’s for sure
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

May 19 @ 10:20 PM ET
Hello!
- pete26


Getting ready for game 1?
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