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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 17 @ 10:17 PM ET
Which part?
- gerbe75pts

Only hope we have
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 17 @ 10:17 PM ET
Brady is interesting as he's an analytics darling but so far, they haven't translated to actual points as much as his advanced stats would indicate they should.
- kingcong39



Ridiculous amount of hits and shots every game.

Tough, leader and some evolving skill.

If that ror to the habs for the 3OA was true....
Good raport with Casey from the worlds...
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 17 @ 10:17 PM ET
If Risto made half of what he makes and plays half as much as he does I wouldn’t mind him as much as I do.

Unfortunately that is not the case.

- Pegullaville


I’ll GLADLY stop talking about Risto (like u said you would) if u guys (u, sbroads, etc) would stop bashing him

He’ll likely be traded soon,
and then u guys can celebrate
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 17 @ 10:18 PM ET
Stats the last 2 years:

Matty T:
123games, 36goals, 65points
82game pace: 24goals, 43points
*did have a 77point season 3years ago though

Brady T:
127games, 38goals, 80points
82game pace: 25goals, 52points
*most points in a season in his 3years is only 45pts, but he was on pace for 53pts this season

Olofsson:
110games, 33goals, 78points
82game pace: 25goals, 58points


What’s the above mean?

Brady isn’t definitively better than Olofsson, let alone his brother
Matt has Brady’s tenacity, PLUS the ceiling of being near a PPG player

Thinking Brady is among the league’s best is nonsense though
He is a “good” player- NOT a “great” one

- jdfitz77


Being a huge brady support i believe with a true number 1 center he will explode what is shocking brady is way more Mature then Matt
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 17 @ 10:19 PM ET
Right now thats the only hope right now .

Matty will likely be back in college and we might get a chance at wright next year

- gerbe75pts

I think Donnie G can get the team he had out of the basement into the mid 20s. These kids--Mitts, Cozens, Dahlin, Asplund, Bryson, Borgen--don't want to lose. Not fixing the goaltending problem will certainly torpedo what I just wrote, but competent goaltending and the way the skaters play will pull up their points percentage
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 17 @ 10:20 PM ET
I think Donnie G can get the team he had out of the basement into the mid 20s. These kids--Mitts, Cozens, Dahlin, Asplund, Bryson, Borgen--don't want to lose. Not fixing the goaltending problem will certainly torpedo what I just wrote, but competent goaltending and the way the skaters play will pull up their points percentage
- Michael Pachla

Nope there is no hope.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 17 @ 10:20 PM ET
Was gonna point out it's really seven full seasons and that his first full season was the 14-15 tank season
- Michael Pachla


Eichel couldn’t even be the savior for us....
Idk what they thought Risto was gonna do

No, he didn’t develop into the “#1” we wanted him to be
But that also doesn’t mean he’s a “#5” who “sucks” and is the “reason we’ve been losing” for the last 8years
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 17 @ 10:21 PM ET
Only hope we have
- Buff36


I mean centers depth .

I dont think it will be the end of the world if jack and sam goes .. will it hurt ? Yes most definitely
But we can bulid a team that might not be the greatest but a team that will Punish the other team
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 17 @ 10:22 PM ET
Stats the last 2 years:

Matty T:
123games, 36goals, 65points
82game pace: 24goals, 43points
*did have a 77point season 3years ago though

Brady T:
127games, 38goals, 80points
82game pace: 25goals, 52points
*most points in a season in his 3years is only 45pts, but he was on pace for 53pts this season

Olofsson:
110games, 33goals, 78points
82game pace: 25goals, 58points


What’s the above mean?

Brady isn’t definitively better than Olofsson, let alone his brother
Matt has Brady’s tenacity, PLUS the ceiling of being near a PPG player

Thinking Brady is among the league’s best is nonsense though
He is a “good” player- NOT a “great” one

- jdfitz77



Be that as it may, if Ottawa or Calgary took Olofsson for either Tkachuk brother, either of their GMs should be checked for concussions.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 17 @ 10:23 PM ET
Eichel couldn’t even be the savior for us....
Idk what they thought Risto was gonna do

No, he didn’t develop into the “#1” we wanted him to be
But that also doesn’t mean he’s a “#5” who “sucks” and is the “reason we’ve been losing” for the last 8years

- jdfitz77


Right, however Eichel still had some very good seasons here, despite Risto cratering possession while they were on the ice together.

Apart from the PP, Risto is a net negative player.

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 17 @ 10:23 PM ET
I think Donnie G can get the team he had out of the basement into the mid 20s. These kids--Mitts, Cozens, Dahlin, Asplund, Bryson, Borgen--don't want to lose. Not fixing the goaltending problem will certainly torpedo what I just wrote, but competent goaltending and the way the skaters play will pull up their points percentage
- Michael Pachla


Hopefully that happens i have to say donnie definitely gets the best out of the young guns
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 17 @ 10:26 PM ET
Be that as it may, if Ottawa or Calgary took Olofsson for either Tkachuk brother, either of their GMs should be checked for concussions.
- Powerslave


I'm not sure what he's trying to say as Matt Tkachuk has 36 goals and 65 assists the past 2 seasons combined for 101 total points.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 17 @ 10:26 PM ET
Eichel couldn’t even be the savior for us....
Idk what they thought Risto was gonna do

No, he didn’t develop into the “#1” we wanted him to be
But that also doesn’t mean he’s a “#5” who “sucks” and is the “reason we’ve been losing” for the last 8years

- jdfitz77

Eichel was the reason we won games

Risto was often a big reason we lost games

It’s painfully obvious to see the difference between the two

One is great. The other makes a great play every 10 games or so
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 17 @ 10:29 PM ET
I'm not sure what he's trying to say as Matt Tkachuk has 36 goals and 65 assists the past 2 seasons combined for 101 total points.
- kingcong39



Was it ever decided whether his QO will be $9 million or was it less?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 17 @ 10:29 PM ET
Interesting read

https://rinkroyalty.com/2...tarter-jack-eichel-trade/

- c1067


But if LA wants to start winning NOW -while Kopitar & Brown are still producing- then they need a guy like Eichel
And if Adams is willing to accept LAs “secondary” pieces like suggested in that article, the he’s nuts

Craig Custance suggested an Eichel trade would cost LA:
Byfield AND Turcotte AND two 1sts

So let’s see what happens with all this
In the end, I’d bet we get A TON
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 17 @ 10:30 PM ET
Nope there is no hope.
- Buff36

If they lose all three it'll be extremely difficult, but I do like the way Donnie Meatballs had the youngins playing after the losing streak plus Cozens, Mitts and Dahlin seemed to be on a mission
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 17 @ 10:30 PM ET
Mittelstadt’s emergence has definitely helped. He can be a 2B to Cozens’ 2A.

We will lack a 1C though unless we luck into Wright next year

- Pegullaville


Can we get away with (3) #2 centers?

No eichel as a #1

Briere, drury , roy? Not saying they were 2c's, but ....
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 17 @ 10:30 PM ET
I mean centers depth .

I dont think it will be the end of the world if jack and sam goes .. will it hurt ? Yes most definitely
But we can bulid a team that might not be the greatest but a team that will Punish the other team

- gerbe75pts

Of course it will hurt to lose both those to, but doesn't mean that the pieces you could add can't help you now and into the future. There's so much that could be done this year, there's potential to help this team before the Expansion draft, those extra picks could help there. People need to stop wallowing, this could be a Franchise altering offseason in a good way.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 17 @ 10:30 PM ET
Right now thats the only hope right now .

Matty will likely be back in college and we might get a chance at wright next year

- gerbe75pts


😍😍😍
And Bedard the year after!
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 17 @ 10:32 PM ET
But if LA wants to start winning NOW -while Kopitar & Brown are still producing- then they need a guy like Eichel
And if Adams is willing to accept LAs “secondary” pieces like suggested in that article, the he’s nuts

Craig Custance suggested an Eichel trade would cost LA:
Byfield AND Turcotte AND two 1sts

So let’s see what happens with all this
In the end, I’d bet we get A TON

- jdfitz77



Not sure they have the cap space to do that deal unless some salary was coming back this way. (I could be wrong)
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 17 @ 10:32 PM ET
Hopefully that happens i have to say donnie definitely gets the best out of the young guns
- gerbe75pts

Development might be his forte and if they lose Jack, Skunk and Whipping Boy, they'll need a lot of development
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 17 @ 10:32 PM ET
Being a huge brady support i believe with a true number 1 center he will explode what is shocking brady is way more Mature then Matt
- gerbe75pts


You could be right about Brady,
we just haven’t seen him be great YET

I sure wouldn’t hate a line next year of:
Brady-Cozens-Matt
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 17 @ 10:33 PM ET
Can we get away with (3) #2 centers?

No eichel as a #1

Briere, drury , roy? Not saying they were 2c's, but ....

- Boss34


I don’t see why not.

Would require some very good wingers though. We’d need the 40 goal Vanek.

I also think Briere was a 1C but I understand your overall sentiment
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 17 @ 10:33 PM ET
Was it ever decided whether his QO will be $9 million or was it less?
- Powerslave


It's $9M because his contract was signed before the updated CBA.

https://www.capfriendly.c...m/players/matthew-tkachuk
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 17 @ 10:34 PM ET
I think Donnie G can get the team he had out of the basement into the mid 20s. These kids--Mitts, Cozens, Dahlin, Asplund, Bryson, Borgen--don't want to lose. Not fixing the goaltending problem will certainly torpedo what I just wrote, but competent goaltending and the way the skaters play will pull up their points percentage
- Michael Pachla



This is a very good post.

Tank #4 - good indicator is:
who is our goal tending tandem? Stealth tank or straight up 2015 tank?

Perhaps a dignified tank like this season?

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