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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 17 @ 3:06 PM ET
LOL me too.

OK that's better but I want more

- jcragcrumple

Yeah it wouldn’t be my favorite deal at all.

But Zary is a good get as a prospect
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 17 @ 3:10 PM ET
Yeah it wouldn’t be my favorite deal at all.

But Zary is a good get as a prospect

- sbroads24


Yeah I tried to include him in a Sam deal but switched it to a 1-for-1 instead.

In one of these deals I want Höglander or Zary
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 17 @ 3:11 PM ET
Have 2 wingers both at 9 million dollars with no number 1 or 2 center

And 1 of the winger has question marks with Maturity and teamplayer

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 17 @ 3:13 PM ET
Have 2 wingers both at 9 million dollars with no number 1 or 2 center

And 1 of the winger has question marks with Maturity and teamplayer


- gerbe75pts



Big question about the maturity and team player-

which winger lacks -skimmer or tkachuk ?

C. Both
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 17 @ 3:14 PM ET
Big question about the maturity and team player-

which winger lacks -skimmer or tkachuk ?

C. Both

- Boss34


tkachuk has made himself into the villain
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 17 @ 3:14 PM ET
Have 2 wingers both at 9 million dollars with no number 1 or 2 center

And 1 of the winger has question marks with Maturity and teamplayer


- gerbe75pts


1.) Sam for TK

2.) Eichel for Zegras, Drysdale, 1st

3.) Risto for Copp

4.) Draft Beniers and Wallstedt (to piss everyone off)

5.) Free beer on pierogi night

6.) Profit
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 17 @ 3:16 PM ET
Yeah I didn’t understand it tbh. I’m genuinely asking
- sbroads24

when fan expectations aren't met, buffalo fans jump over each other to try and be first to say, "get him the f*ck out" using analytics and salary as their basis without regard for anything else--teammates, coaching, strength of rivals, injuries, etc.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 17 @ 3:17 PM ET
its also some sports psychology thing where fans always blame the good players

like of course i'm not going to blame seth griffith or jordan nolan or benoit pouliot for the sabres being bad because those guys aren't supposed to be good

but the guy who's supposed to be good who can't carry his bad team, thats the guy we have to single out

- robz228

and the more they make, the more fickle the fan base can be
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 17 @ 3:18 PM ET
Big question about the maturity and team player-

which winger lacks -skimmer or tkachuk ?

C. Both

- Boss34


tkachuk has made himself into the villain
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 17 @ 3:20 PM ET
1.) Sam for TK

2.) Eichel for Zegras, Drysdale, 1st

3.) Risto for Copp

4.) Draft Beniers and Wallstedt (to piss everyone off)

5.) Free beer on pierogi night

6.) Profit

- jcragcrumple



But why do we want tk ? If he wouldn't be a teamplayer in Calgary why would here ?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 17 @ 3:20 PM ET
tkachuk has made himself into the villain
- gerbe75pts


Skimmer is the superhero in the scenario?

I'd much rather have brady than Matt tkachuk.

If we're talking eichel....

Brady
Tim stuezel
1st 2021

Eichel
Okposo
Bryson
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 17 @ 3:30 PM ET
when fan expectations aren't met, buffalo fans jump over each other to try and be first to say, "get him the f*ck out" using analytics and salary as their basis without regard for anything else--teammates, coaching, strength of rivals, injuries, etc.
- Michael Pachla

This is really a long roundabout way of blaming analytics?

O’Reilly’s “analytics” here we’re still solid. It was actually everything else IMO.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 17 @ 3:30 PM ET
PLD= Tkachuk

Zary >>>> Copp

Plus 1st.

What am I missing from your end?

- sbroads24


Tkachuk isn't a Center and PLD isn't about to get $9M on his next deal.

Also, Zary is greater then Copp, for sure?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 17 @ 3:33 PM ET
This is really a long roundabout way of blaming analytics?

O’Reilly’s “analytics” here we’re still solid. It was actually everything else IMO.

- sbroads24


Solid, but not what they've been with St. Louis, as you said earlier.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 17 @ 3:34 PM ET
1.) Sam for TK

2.) Eichel for Zegras, Drysdale, 1st

3.) Risto for Copp

4.) Draft Beniers and Wallstedt (to piss everyone off)

5.) Free beer on pierogi night

6.) Profit

- jcragcrumple


The bold was possible 2 years ago and maybe last year, but not anymore.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 17 @ 3:35 PM ET
Tkachuk isn't a Center and PLD isn't about to get $9M on his next deal.

Also, Zary is greater then Copp, for sure?

- kingcong39

PLD also wasn’t very good this year. And chances are he gets overpaid IMO. Especially if we’re signing him to be our 1C

And while I like Copp, he’s not as skilled as Zary. By a lot.

Copp is a good middle six guy. Zary could be an All Star

Edit - also age difference alone Zary>> Copp for a rebuild
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 17 @ 3:37 PM ET
Just read a proposal reported on Spoertnet up here in Canada.

Eichel to the Flames for Tkachuk , Zarybamd the 2021 1st round pick.

I think that’s a pretty sweet deal for both teams.

- HonkyTonkMan



Buzzer sound.

Try again.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 17 @ 3:37 PM ET
appleton and their late 1st?

throw in fitzgerald if needed

- homiedclown


Fitzgerald has no value
Career minor leaguer
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 17 @ 3:40 PM ET
PLD also wasn’t very good this year. And chances are he gets overpaid IMO. Especially if we’re signing him to be our 1C

And while I like Copp, he’s not as skilled as Zary. By a lot.

Copp is a good middle six guy. Zary could be an All Star

Edit - also age difference alone Zary>> Copp for a rebuild

- sbroads24


Just looked up Zary's production. I now agree.

How the hell did he last to the 24th overall pick?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 17 @ 3:41 PM ET
Hope people don't lose there minds if Eichel is dealt, this place will be hell.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 17 @ 3:41 PM ET
Not sure why it has to be said over and over and over

Ristolainen sucks, and he also is a player GM’s and coaches think they can fix = he should still have some trade value

It’s not rocket science

- sbroads24


He doesn’t “suck”
He’s better than a “#5”
You’re ridiculously over exaggeration about him....
AGAIN
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 17 @ 3:41 PM ET
Solid, but not what they've been with St. Louis, as you said earlier.
- kingcong39

Yes, but I think that his effort and overall morale is the cause of that, not the analytics themselves.

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 17 @ 3:42 PM ET
Here we go
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 17 @ 3:42 PM ET
He doesn’t “suck”
He’s better than a “#5”
You’re ridiculously over exaggeration about him....
AGAIN

- jdfitz77

It’s funny how two other people said he’s a #5 on that page and you singled out my post lol.

He’s a 5.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 17 @ 3:42 PM ET
Hope people don't lose there minds if Eichel is dealt, this place will be hell.
- Buff36


He should already be dealt in everyone's minds.

Save 'em the sorrow.
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