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Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

May 16 @ 10:39 AM ET
Yup.

Pretty sure leaving for "personal reasons" isn't covered by his contract.

- Scabeh

I imagine there are clauses in there for nearly everything.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

May 16 @ 10:53 AM ET
had another GREAT run
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

May 16 @ 10:53 AM ET
currently drinking a BAFC
The_Price_is_right
Montreal Canadiens
Location: question what did u give up fo
Joined: 09.08.2008

May 16 @ 10:58 AM ET
Yup.

Pretty sure leaving for "personal reasons" isn't covered by his contract.

- Scabeh


Psychological illness is
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

May 16 @ 11:36 AM ET
This line-up is not unexpected. Most of my colleagues agreed this is what Ducharme and Bergevin would assemble. Unfortunately, a direct comparison to the opponent's combos leaves us at a significant disadvantage in every situtation.

Line 1:
Tatar-Danault-Gallagher
Hyman-Matthews-Marner
Gallagher and Hymen are comparable players with a similar style. Gallagher's stats do not match Hyman's, but Hyman plays with far superior players. Danault and Tatar are third line talents and are utterly unsuited to compare against Toronto's elite pair.

Line 2:
Toffoli-Suzuki-Armia
Foligno-Tavares-Nylander
Toffoli is our best scorer, but in an 82-game season it is likely Tavares and Nylander would outpace.

Line 3:
Perry-Staal-Anderson
Kerfoot-Nash-Mikheyev
Once Perry and Staal woudl have been a lethal top combination. Unfortunately, Perry is now suitable only for specialty teams and forth line duty and Staal's play is suitable for the Canes alumni roster games.

Line 4:
Byron-Evans-Lehkonen
Thronton-Spezza-Simmonds
The fourth line is where most teams place specialty teams players generally unsuitable for regular 5-on-5 shifts. Our trio are all acceptable fourth liners, but the opponent's fourth line appears to be loaded with acceptable 2nd PP unit and 2nd PK unit players.

Defense:
Toronto has no defensive liabilities, and have the best squad in the North. We on the other hand have Edmundson on the first pairing. He is generally viewed as too lethargic for the NHL and would not crack Toronto's lineup.

Starters:
Price was once the best goalie in the league, however, he is now statistically at the bottom. This is not a blip. He has been in steep decline for 4 years and is no longer a suitable starter. Allen may nor be spectacular but he is better than Price. Management in Toronto properly prepared for a declining starter. There is no doubt in Toronto. Anderson will correctly be their back-up.

Bergevin and Ducharme are buffoons. They should be stacking at least one line, as this scheme almost guarantees we will be stifled. I repeat, buffoons. These line-up choices may have been suitable in the clutch-and-grab steroid era, but this configuration do not bode well for the current playoffs. Buffoons.

Its too late to correct the mistakes made at the deadline, but if I would recommend Molson immediately shake things up. Changing the GM and coach now may provide immediate and long term benefits. Short term, it may spark the players, providing and edge for 2 or 3 games. This might make the series interesting. Long term, a good GM will begin a planned rebuild, providing us the opportunity to observe the reversion of this comical squad into a proud, winning team, suitable to carry the Habs banner.

Toronto should never again be the decisive favourite in a series against Montreal.

- Jackie Daytona


Lol, your analysis made me laugh
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

May 16 @ 11:38 AM ET
Do you guys think Evans is ready to take Danault’s spot next year? Supposed we keep Tatar
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

May 16 @ 11:43 AM ET
Do you guys think Evans is ready to take Danault’s spot next year? Supposed we keep Tatar
- habs88888

Yes
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

May 16 @ 11:45 AM ET
Yes
- mr.peanut


Are you writing as a bias Leafs fan ?
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

May 16 @ 11:47 AM ET
Are you writing as a bias Leafs fan ?
- habs88888

As the greatest hockey mind of this generation
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

May 16 @ 11:47 AM ET
As the greatest hockey mind of this generation
- mr.peanut


That’s scary
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

May 16 @ 11:49 AM ET
That’s scary
- habs88888

tell me I'm pretty
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

May 16 @ 11:49 AM ET
tell me I'm pretty
- mr.peanut


This is not catching on at all
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

May 16 @ 11:49 AM ET
As the greatest hockey mind of this generation
- mr.peanut

Cherry had to pass the torch to somebody
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

May 16 @ 11:50 AM ET
Cherry had to pass the torch to somebody
- Takemedrunkimhome


Too bad he crossed the line otherwise he would have still been there
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

May 16 @ 11:50 AM ET
This is not catching on at all
- habs88888

go enjoy retirement
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

May 16 @ 11:52 AM ET
Too bad he crossed the line otherwise he would have still been there
- habs88888

now we're stuck with people pretending that Cassie Campbell adds anything of value
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

May 16 @ 11:54 AM ET
go enjoy retirement
- mr.peanut


You are ugly lol
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

May 16 @ 12:01 PM ET
You are ugly lol
- habs88888

Then why did you get my avatar tattooed to the insides of your eyelids?
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

May 16 @ 12:27 PM ET
You are ugly lol
- habs88888

habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

May 16 @ 12:36 PM ET

- Takemedrunkimhome


As if enjoying retirement is not rude, stay out of it
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

May 16 @ 12:42 PM ET
As if enjoying retirement is not rude, stay out of it
- habs88888

It was a joke bud. Thought it was pretty mild at that
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

May 16 @ 12:43 PM ET
It was a joke bud. Thought it was pretty mild at that
- Takemedrunkimhome


I can’t see your face so I may be sensitive
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 16 @ 12:47 PM ET
Do you guys think Evans is ready to take Danault’s spot next year? Supposed we keep Tatar
- habs88888

no
Jackie Daytona
Joined: 10.09.2020

May 16 @ 12:50 PM ET
its interesting to see how many have sent me messages panning my assessment of Ducharme's lines, particularly the comparison with Toronto's. Applying logic and not sentiment, it is practically impossible to argue any of Ducharme's lines or defensive pairings are comparable to those Toronto is using. Ducharme's configuration may have worked 20 years ago, but success is now unlikely using this maddening style.[unless Barry Trotz is the coach] This is partially why Toronto are such heavy favourites.

We can still win, but a lot needs to simultaneously go right for us and wrong for them. It is not impossible, but it is unlikely. I suggest it is also wise to look toward the potential benefits of losing to Toronto or Edmonton. The Habs will likely replace Bergevin and Ducharme, both have failed. We might be able to see Price and Weber moved without loosing assets. With KK and Druin likely moving this off-season, perhaps the new advisors will be able to recoup respectable assets. The Habs might begin to properly develop draft picks. We might finally see a proper rebuild that will make us cup favourites instead of hopelessly sneaking into the playoffs with a .429 win%.

Like most I also want the immediate gratification of winning, but the benefits of losing are immense.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

May 16 @ 12:59 PM ET
canada, good morning!
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