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Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

May 15 @ 8:52 AM ET
The Rangers are not good trade partners unless they are willing to give up something of true quality.
- kingcong39


Yes kings seem to be team that fits our needs
Byfield
Turcotte

We have no what's being offered

Rangers deal gives us immediate help
At least it's not like most fans trades
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

May 15 @ 8:53 AM ET
Yes kings seem to be team that fits our needs
Byfield
Turcotte

We have no what's being offered

Rangers deal gives us immediate help
At least it's not like most fans trades

- Anderdog

Edit no ideal
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 15 @ 8:55 AM ET
Depends on who you are trading with.
Jack is a very strong impact player immediately adding wins. Bubble teams today, probably become playoff teams and therefore their picks would be mnon-lottery picks next year.

In Kong's proposed trade, Winnipeg is and remains a playoff team and by adding Jack may be able to pull off a series or two wins..making that '22 draft pick in the ~mid-20's.
You aren't getting "generational" talent in that range.

Now, if it were Anaheim...I would agree to roll the dice and hope the purge of Eichel and Sam both release the curse from tanking on this franchise

- IonSabres


Ideally they Trade Eichel to the next version of the Sharks team that thinks their close, trades unprotected 22/23 1st rounders.

What organization looks like they could go either way, Winnipeg is on that list with that questionable defense
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 15 @ 8:58 AM ET
Keep the 3 rd
Add one of the goalie's

- Anderdog


I'd have no problem adding Georgiev but Shesterkin is untouchable

really the only things absolutely untouchable on the Rangers under any circumstances are Lafreniere, Fox and Shesterkin and the guys with NMCs

really anybody else could be had in that right deal
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 15 @ 9:01 AM ET
It was the Winnipeg 1st round pick this season, not next.
- kingcong39


Correct.
He wanted you to push the picks into the '22 draft for a shot at the top end talent..to which I was responding that they wouldn't get top end talent (Wright, etc) with a pick from a playoff team.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 15 @ 9:06 AM ET
Yes kings seem to be team that fits our needs
Byfield
Turcotte

We have no what's being offered

Rangers deal gives us immediate help
At least it's not like most fans trades

- Anderdog


kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 15 @ 9:07 AM ET
I'd have no problem adding Georgiev but Shesterkin is untouchable

really the only things absolutely untouchable on the Rangers under any circumstances are Lafreniere, Fox and Shesterkin and the guys with NMCs

really anybody else could be had in that right deal

- jimbro83


That's fair, especially on Fox.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 15 @ 9:08 AM ET

- kingcong39


the deal I offered with Chytil, Buchnevich and Nils Lundkvist is so much better than that

you guys shouldn't sleep on Nils Lundkvist, there couldn't be a better guy to pair up with Dahlin on an ELC
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 15 @ 9:09 AM ET
Ducks: Eichel Borgen
Buff: Zegras Drysdale +
kritter65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 15 @ 9:15 AM ET
A definite possibility :

Other teams see Jack as damaged goods and aren't even entertaining the thought of trading for him, and if they are, they're offering a LOT less than anyone in here is suggesting.

Also, in theory, there's the possibility that he can't ever play effectively again. I know I'd retire from a professional sport if I had to have that sort of surgery.



Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

May 15 @ 9:16 AM ET
So

Chytil
Buchnevich
Lundquist
Georgine
1st

For echiel

Stick around thru out day
I'd imagine the response is going to be all over the place
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 15 @ 9:19 AM ET
I'd have no problem adding Georgiev but Shesterkin is untouchable

really the only things absolutely untouchable on the Rangers under any circumstances are Lafreniere, Fox and Shesterkin and the guys with NMCs

really anybody else could be had in that right deal

- jimbro83


I like what the Rags have put together.

If Sabres trade their elite, franchise 1C who is regarded as a top 7 C;
The trade is going to be uncomfortable.

Jack was hurt in his 17 games this season...broken rib, ankle, abdominal strain .. all from the start of the season and still played at a 1.0pt/Gm pace. His goal scoring was down from those short-term injuries...yet overall production remained high. Last year he was at a 1.2 pt pace.
Olofsso played '19-'20 season at a 64 pt pace over 82 games. He and Jack play well together.

That package of Eichel and Olofsson is worth about 150 pts and those two go together in any package.

You have to give to get.
Your '21 1st pick is 16th in a very underwhelming draft with little recent data to properly evaluate...therefore it has low value.

It starts with Lafreniere and the package has 5 or 6 assets coming back, with NO Cap dumps.
Don't like it...move on..NP...we'll keep Jack for another season and watch him blow it out of the water.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 15 @ 9:19 AM ET
So

Chytil
Buchnevich
Lundquist
Georgine
1st

For echiel

Stick around thru out day
I'd imagine the response is going to be all over the place

- Anderdog


I'd do it, and I think it's a great deal for Sabres


jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 15 @ 9:20 AM ET
I like what the Rags have put together.

If Sabres trade their elite, franchise 1C who is regarded as a top 7 C;
The trade is going to be uncomfortable.

Jack was hurt in his 17 games this season...broken rib, ankle, abdominal strain .. all from the start of the season and still played at a 1.0pt/Gm pace. His goal scoring was done from those short-term injuries. Last year he was at a 1.2 pt pace.
Olofsso played '19-'20 seaso. At a 64 pt pace over 82 games. He and Jack play well together.

That package of Eichel and Olofsson is worth about 150 pts and those two go together in any package.

You have to give to get.
Your '21 1st pick is 16th in a very underwhelming draft with little recent data to properly evaluate...therefore it has low value.

It starts with Lafreniere and has 5 or 6 assets.
Don't like it...move on..NP...we'll keep Jack for another season and watch him blow it out of the water.

- IonSabres


look, I know you guys are all very bitter and I get it, I watch Melody's videos too

but, you are delusional
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 15 @ 9:23 AM ET
look, I know you guys are all very bitter and I get it, I watch Melody's videos too

but, you are delusional

- jimbro83

Could be
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 15 @ 9:24 AM ET
look, I know you guys are all very bitter and I get it, I watch Melody's videos too

but, you are delusional

- jimbro83


Ok, we'll keep Jack.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 15 @ 9:25 AM ET
look, I know you guys are all very bitter and I get it, I watch Melody's videos too

but, you are delusional

- jimbro83

How has Schneider progressed
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 15 @ 9:27 AM ET
How has Schneider progressed
- Buff36


terrific, considering Covid ravaged the season, he looked good in Hartford and was one of best defensemen in WHL
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 9:30 AM ET
So

Chytil
Buchnevich
Lundquist
Georgine
1st

For echiel

Stick around thru out day
I'd imagine the response is going to be all over the place

- Anderdog

I threw this out yesterday

Chytil, Kakko, Georgiev and Zac Jones
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 15 @ 9:31 AM ET
terrific, considering Covid ravaged the season, he looked good in Hartford and was one of best defensemen in WHL
- jimbro83

Like his toughness, is he a 1d or top4 projected
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 15 @ 9:34 AM ET
make me a countah offah
- jimbro83
no
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 15 @ 9:35 AM ET
the deal I offered with Chytil, Buchnevich and Nils Lundkvist is so much better than that

you guys shouldn't sleep on Nils Lundkvist, there couldn't be a better guy to pair up with Dahlin on an ELC

- jimbro83


Explain please.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 15 @ 9:36 AM ET
here's my offer for Eichel:

Filip Chytil
Pavel Buchnevich
Sabres Choice: Nils Lundkvist or Braden Schneider
NYR 2021 first round pick (likely 15th overall)
Sabres 2021 3rd round pick returned

Lundkvist could be perfect defense partner for Dahlin the rest of the decade

- jimbro83


Heres mine .



gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 15 @ 9:39 AM ET
Love how ranger fans are giving poop and level B prospects

Cool bye
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 9:39 AM ET
Heres mine .




- gerbe75pts

Lafreniere or Kakko has to come back IMO
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