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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 15 @ 9:59 PM ET
Just came across something in the new CBA sabres fans might find interesting.

Under the old one an RFA’s qualifying offer had to be equal to that of the salary where as of last summer any RFA contract signed has a qualifying offer the same as the AAV.

For example matthew tkachuck’s contract was signed under the old CBA so his next one will have a cap hit that will match the 9 million salary he was making in the last year of his current contract. But if it was signed after the new CBA the qualifying offer would only match the 7 million aav he has right now.

It might or might not change anything I was thinking in the Dahlin negotiations but none the less it will be interesting to see if it plays a part.

- RedC21


It's not quite as simple as you laid out, but you're close.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 15 @ 10:11 PM ET
Just came across something in the new CBA sabres fans might find interesting.

Under the old one an RFA’s qualifying offer had to be equal to that of the salary where as of last summer any RFA contract signed has a qualifying offer the same as the AAV.

For example matthew tkachuck’s contract was signed under the old CBA so his next one will have a cap hit that will match the 9 million salary he was making in the last year of his current contract. But if it was signed after the new CBA the qualifying offer would only match the 7 million aav he has right now.

It might or might not change anything I was thinking in the Dahlin negotiations but none the less it will be interesting to see if it plays a part.

- RedC21


It's the lower number of the final year of the deal or 120% of the AAV.

For Tkachuk, if his deal was signed after the updated CBA, his QO would be $8.4M as that is 120% of his $7M AAV and less than his $9M final year of the deal.

Barzal, another example, would be $8.4M instead of the $10M that is the final year of his deal.

Also, I believe signing bonuses do not count for the final year of an RFA deal to derive that number.

RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

May 15 @ 10:24 PM ET
It's the lower number of the final year of the deal or 120% of the AAV.

For Tkachuk, if his deal was signed after the updated CBA, his QO would be $8.4M as that is 120% of his $7M AAV and less than his $9M final year of the deal.


- kingcong39


Thanks for the better clarification, I came across it in an article when I was researching something else and with it being just a short bullet point it must not have gone in depth enough. Like I said though it will be interesting to see if it affects this summer’s RFA’s in comparison to the past few years
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 16 @ 6:35 AM ET
Some good games on today. That Vegas vs Wild should be a good series. Wild handled Vegas pretty good during the regular season. I am really looking forward to that Florida vs Tampa game tonight, that should be a really good series.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

May 16 @ 6:53 AM ET
Some good games on today. That Vegas vs Wild should be a good series. Wild handled Vegas pretty good during the regular season. I am really looking forward to that Florida vs Tamba game tonight, that should be a really good series.
- Buff36


Great game last night too. The fact OV can still physically dominate a team like the Bruins is stunning to me. He was knocking the hell out every Bruin and Nick Backstrom last night. Guy's simply amazing.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 16 @ 6:57 AM ET
Great game last night too. The fact OV can still physically dominate a team like the Bruins is stunning to me. He was knocking the hell out every Bruin and Nick Backstrom last night. Guy's simply amazing.
- lacaprup

Yeah saw that, the look on Backstrom's face. OV came to play.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 16 @ 7:54 AM ET
"How Don Granato's career path might fit what the Sabres need in a coach | Buffalo Sabres News | buffalonews.com" https://buffalonews.com/s...cc1-133fb89aafa2.amp.html
This guy gets Hockey
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 16 @ 8:06 AM ET
Some good games on today. That Vegas vs Wild should be a good series. Wild handled Vegas pretty good during the regular season. I am really looking forward to that Florida vs Tampa game tonight, that should be a really good series.
- Buff36


Great series to kickoff hopefully a long, long playoff run for The Bolts!
I know Rat is a Panthers guy...and that team could go deep, they are fun and exciting to watch as well with some very, very good talent.
Kong is excited too, given Kuch is now well rested and ready to come back and contribute.
Question is, can he ramp up to a top 5 player status, or just be a normal 1st liner?

Done trolling! It us great to have playoff hockey for the next 12 weeks!
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 16 @ 8:09 AM ET
Great series to kickoff hopefully a long, long playoff run for The Bolts!
I know Rat is a Panthers guy...and that team could go deep, they are fun and exciting to watch as well with some very, very good talent.
Kong is excited too, given Kuch is now well rested and ready to come back and contribute.
Question is, can he ramp up to a top 5 player status, or just be a normal 1st liner?

Done trolling! It us great to have playoff hockey for the next 12 weeks!

- IonSabres

Well normal 1st liner is better than most for Kuch. Should be a War, might be the best opening series of them all.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 16 @ 8:30 AM ET
"How Don Granato's career path might fit what the Sabres need in a coach | Buffalo Sabres News | buffalonews.com" https://buffalonews.com/s...cc1-133fb89aafa2.amp.html
This guy gets Hockey

- Buff36


Good read, thanks for sharing...although, not being a subscriber, BN locks me out after a couple of articles.

The Don has the right mindset for the game and teaching young guys. He is perfect for the Rebuild IV
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 16 @ 8:43 AM ET
Good read, thanks for sharing...although, not being a subscriber, BN locks me out after a couple of articles.

The Don has the right mindset for the game and teaching young guys. He is perfect for the Rebuild IV

- IonSabres

Like Granato, he's got a good hockey mind. Sorry for some reason my phone won't let me post things certain ways. Could be me, not very good with this stuff.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 16 @ 8:49 AM ET
Looking at possible destinations for Eichel if he is traded. Even if we don't get what we hope for, there are packages that can be put together that could help make us a better overall team. I don't really care if we get futures or picks, it would be nice. But we could get players in that 24- 27yr range that could help know and into the future while still building the pipeline.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 16 @ 8:57 AM ET
Tough break for the Blues with Perron testing positive for The Covid.
3 guys on the Blues in a week...let's hope it doesn't cause an outbreak.
If I'm the Avs GM and Owners, I would be all over the NHL to ensure every last possible protocol and test is being done to prevent an outbreak and having it transmitted to them during a possible Cup run.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 16 @ 8:58 AM ET
Like Granato, he's got a good hockey mind. Sorry for some reason my phone won't let me post things certain ways. Could be me, not very good with this stuff.
- Buff36


No, not you...they purposely limit reads for non-subscribers...I get it, but will never subscribe to that rag.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 16 @ 9:13 AM ET
Looking at possible destinations for Eichel if he is traded. Even if we don't get what we hope for, there are packages that can be put together that could help make us a better overall team. I don't really care if we get futures or picks, it would be nice. But we could get players in that 24- 27yr range that could help know and into the future while still building the pipeline.
- Buff36



Agreed, but this is going to test Adams' mettle to maximize the return.

Two things I believe whole heartedly;
- Packaging Olofsson with Jack should provide the best return possible. To do so, KA should hold 50% of Olo for a total package Cap hit of only $11.5m. In '19-20 they were on pace for 155pt /82 gms...and significantly improved the PP. Those are high value selling points.
- draft picks are devalued for two reasons; a) unless a top 5 this year, the '21 Draft is more of a crap shoot than most, and amplified by the Sabres low investment in scouting resources, b) prospects maybe be better in '22 and '23 but the acquiring team probably moves up the league and down the draft order.

So get a return of young players and A-level prospects (high probability of Top 6/ 1st or 2nd Pairings) in most cases. Picks should be the 4th asset acquired unless it is Anaheim's 1st in '21
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 16 @ 9:23 AM ET
Agreed, but this is going to test Adams' mettle to maximize the return.

Two things I believe whole heartedly;
- Packaging Olofsson with Jack should provide the best return possible. To do so, KA should hold 50% of Olo for a total package Cap hit of only $11.5m. In '19-20 they were on pace for 155pt /82 gms...and significantly improved the PP. Those are high value selling points.
- draft picks are devalued for two reasons; a) unless a top 5 this year, the '21 Draft is more of a crap shoot than most, and amplified by the Sabres low investment in scouting resources, b) prospects maybe be better in '22 and '23 but the acquiring team probably moves up the league and down the draft order.

So get a return of young players and A-level prospects (high probability of Top 6/ 1st or 2nd Pairings) in most cases. Picks should be the 4th asset acquired unless it is Anaheim's 1st in '21

- IonSabres

Don't know if you saw homie's trade with Arizona he put out a few days ago, but it could help us overall Dvorak Garland Chyuryn DK and go from there, it checks the boxes, might not be the perfect package but with the sum could make us better.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 16 @ 9:23 AM ET
Great series to kickoff hopefully a long, long playoff run for The Bolts!
I know Rat is a Panthers guy...and that team could go deep, they are fun and exciting to watch as well with some very, very good talent.
Kong is excited too, given Kuch is now well rested and ready to come back and contribute.
Question is, can he ramp up to a top 5 player status, or just be a normal 1st liner?

Done trolling! It us great to have playoff hockey for the next 12 weeks!

- IonSabres


(frank) the Lightning. I hope they get embarrassed against the Panthers.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 16 @ 9:25 AM ET
Looking at possible destinations for Eichel if he is traded. Even if we don't get what we hope for, there are packages that can be put together that could help make us a better overall team. I don't really care if we get futures or picks, it would be nice. But we could get players in that 24- 27yr range that could help know and into the future while still building the pipeline.
- Buff36


The bold was the basis for my trade idea with Winnipeg.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 16 @ 9:26 AM ET
The bold was the basis for my trade idea with Winnipeg.
- kingcong39

I liked that package 39
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 16 @ 9:26 AM ET
Great game last night too. The fact OV can still physically dominate a team like the Bruins is stunning to me. He was knocking the hell out every Bruin and Nick Backstrom last night. Guy's simply amazing.
- lacaprup


The test will be to see if Ovechkin can do that physically every game for the entire playoffs. At his age, it becomes progressively more difficult as each game goes by.

Game 1 is easy. Beyond is that is exponentially more difficult. It does help that he's a big, big guy (6'3 238 per the NHL website).
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 16 @ 9:45 AM ET
Interesting article I read yesterday, likely posted as a link on here yesterday...
Kings should target Sam not Eichel due to a) lower acquisition costs, b) Kings Prospect pool of C's.

Maybe Sam pulls a Vilardi / Turcotte / Fagemo out of them. Could they squeeze a 2nd asset out of them?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 16 @ 9:50 AM ET
Great series to kickoff hopefully a long, long playoff run for The Bolts!
I know Rat is a Panthers guy...and that team could go deep, they are fun and exciting to watch as well with some very, very good talent.
Kong is excited too, given Kuch is now well rested and ready to come back and contribute.
Question is, can he ramp up to a top 5 player status, or just be a normal 1st liner?

Done trolling! It us great to have playoff hockey for the next 12 weeks!

- IonSabres


Ionlightning 🙂
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 16 @ 9:51 AM ET
I liked that package 39
- Buff36


For those that may have missed it, see below.

Jcrag hated this idea.

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 16 @ 9:51 AM ET
Don't know if you saw homie's trade with Arizona he put out a few days ago, but it could help us overall Dvorak Garland Chyuryn DK and go from there, it checks the boxes, might not be the perfect package but with the sum could make us better.
- Buff36


They all fit the age range for sure and cover all the bases positionally.
I like all those guys, but doubt we get all that in a package..but maybe.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 16 @ 9:52 AM ET
I liked that package 39
- Buff36


That's what she said ☝️
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