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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 6 @ 2:32 PM ET
Anyone watching the U18 Worlds?

Is this 15yr old kid Bedard as good as they are saying??

- Barb34

Yes. He, Wright and Michkov are insane.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

May 6 @ 2:32 PM ET
So let's state the obvious: There is a consistency and transparency issue with the DOPS. Under Brendan Shanahan, he put out the videos, he explained what it was, he told you how they reached their verdict. Whether or not you could argue x's and o's about the conclusion was subjective, of course, but they told you how the conclusion was drawn. The punishments seemed to be relatively consistent. Under all DOPS admins since Shanahan departed, there has been less transparency and a general feeling of less consistency and perhaps grumblings of bias. The DOPS must be transparent for it to be understood.

Don't get me wrong - if someone had suspended Tom Wilson for 1 game, I would have felt it wasn't enough. If they had suspended him for 20, I'd have felt that I was getting my pound of flesh. If I objectively look at it the way the DOPS says they do, I don't know if I can actually get my head around more than a 1 game suspension. Remember that they use precedent as a key determining factor, which unfortunately ignores the evolving state of player safety.

NOW, putting your other point in context here: Taking the names off of the jersey when considering the outcome is only used until they decide the outcome. If you decide it's a $5k suspension, that's the max allowable fine, and you've already concluded it's not a game-worthy suspension. It doesn't matter who's name is on the jersey. If you've decided that it's a game-worthy suspension, then you look at the history of the player to determine if you need to mete additional punishment because of their inability to learn.

I am not advocating for this process, I am merely stating that this is how the process is driven. I feel it should change. I feel they should be enabled to create new precedent and move the game forward in terms of safety. But that's not where they are. And that's why this is what it was.

- Monkeypunk


no disagreement with anything you've said.

my issue - is that the consistency thing has been a problem since Shanahan was there...and he had his fair share of questionable outcomes as well if I remember correctly.
in short - its been a shyte show for about a decade, if not longer.

I, and I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority here, was glad to see the Rangers put out that somewhat irrational yet very pointed statement yesterday - because it called out Parros and by default the league office - statement in short - "do your job better"


Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 6 @ 2:40 PM ET
no disagreement with anything you've said.

my issue - is that the consistency thing has been a problem since Shanahan was there...and he had his fair share of questionable outcomes as well if I remember correctly.
in short - its been a shyte show for about a decade, if not longer.

I, and I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority here, was glad to see the Rangers put out that somewhat irrational yet very pointed statement yesterday - because it called out Parros and by default the league office - statement in short - "do your job better"

- BorjeFan4Ever

Except it's the NHL, so it had the exact opposite effect.

It was a dumb move - left the NHL no choice but to bring the hammer down hard on the Rangers players.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

May 6 @ 2:43 PM ET
no disagreement with anything you've said.

my issue - is that the consistency thing has been a problem since Shanahan was there...and he had his fair share of questionable outcomes as well if I remember correctly.
in short - its been a shyte show for about a decade, if not longer.

I, and I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority here, was glad to see the Rangers put out that somewhat irrational yet very pointed statement yesterday - because it called out Parros and by default the league office - statement in short - "do your job better"

- BorjeFan4Ever

I agree. If the league conducts themselves in a bush league manner, why shouldn’t the rangers do the same thing.

I think it will work too. We might see some changes. The way I saw it Wilson was trying to make Panarin’s head hit the ice.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

May 6 @ 2:44 PM ET
no disagreement with anything you've said.

my issue - is that the consistency thing has been a problem since Shanahan was there...and he had his fair share of questionable outcomes as well if I remember correctly.
in short - its been a shyte show for about a decade, if not longer.

I, and I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority here, was glad to see the Rangers put out that somewhat irrational yet very pointed statement yesterday - because it called out Parros and by default the league office - statement in short - "do your job better"

- BorjeFan4Ever


I'm with you on liking what the Rangers did. Whether the DOPS has their process or not, the lack of transparency and lack of consistency and lack of communication almost calls for this. Even setting aside the Wilson incident, the punishments have been all over the place, at times ignoring more violent acts, and punishing lesser acts.

From a fan's perspective, I also don't think Parros is qualified for the role, and I don't see him or his department doing anything to help improve the game or player safety.

Secondly from a fan's perspective, I'm sort of tired of the Bettman-mafia punishing anyone who dares speak ill of them. Every other professional sports league has a thicker skin. The NHL's 'solidarity pact' is stupid and embarrassing.

If you do your job properly, people won't complain. If the refs called the games instead of managed the games, people would complain less. If the DOPS was actually looking after player safety, people would complain less. The game would actually better than enforcing bull crap parity into a league where Detroit is rebuilding and Tampa is a dominant force. It might suck to be a Wings fan for a few years, but it will make the wine taste sweeter when they return to the playoffs.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 6 @ 2:45 PM ET
Freddie going between the pipes for the Marlies - Leafs TV has it at 3 pm.

I may keep it on in the background.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

May 6 @ 2:47 PM ET
(frank) Wilson, Parros, the Caps, the Rangers, the Habs, the Bruins, the Jets. Let's see, who else? Oh, (frank) McDavid, and the Canucks.
- Zezel


Don’t forget Garnie


Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 6 @ 2:48 PM ET
So elder gets suspended 2 games for a dangerous play that probably was mostly by accident and a little bit of stupid thinking.

Wilson gets fined 5K for trying to end a players career.

What’s Buchnevich going to get? 1 game?

Plus if this was Kadri he’d be suspended for the entitled 2021-22 season.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

May 6 @ 2:50 PM ET
So elder gets suspended 2 games for a dangerous play that probably was mostly by accident and a little bit of stupid thinking.

Wilson gets fined 5K for trying to end a players career.

What’s Buchnevich going to get? 1 game?

Plus if this was Kadri he’d be suspended for the entitled 2021-22 season.

- Santo_44


I guess we'll see. I'd give Buchnevich 3 games. I don't think you can apply any mitigating circumstances there. Two wrongs don't make a right, and nailing a guy in the face with an intentional cross-check falls pretty squarely into the 'wrong' category.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 6 @ 2:50 PM ET
Except it's the NHL, so it had the exact opposite effect.

It was a dumb move - left the NHL no choice but to bring the hammer down hard on the Rangers players.

- Atomic Wedgie


250K is nothing to the Rangers.

Buchnevich is out for the rest of the season due to injury as reported today.

Last night was a message to Parros. And we probably see him fired after seasons end.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 6 @ 2:51 PM ET
I guess we'll see. I'd give Buchnevich 3 games. I don't think you can apply any mitigating circumstances there. Two wrongs don't make a right, and nailing a guy in the face with an intentional cross-check falls pretty squarely into the 'wrong' category.
- Monkeypunk


I hope he gets 3 games because itll show how inconsistent they are.

Parros looks like an idiot right now.

The cross check to the face was by design to get Buch suspended.

Basically the Rangers are making Parros look like a clueless clown.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 6 @ 2:52 PM ET
250K is nothing to the Rangers.

Buchnevich is out for the rest of the season due to injury as reported today.

Last night was a message to Parros. And we probably see him fired after seasons end.

- Santo_44

I’m not sure the League can fire him after a team calls for him to be fired because they didn’t like a ruling. I have no idea if Gary or anybody else was happy with him but he’s safe for a while now. Thanks Rangers
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 6 @ 2:54 PM ET
250K is nothing to the Rangers.

Buchnevich is out for the rest of the season due to injury as reported today.

Last night was a message to Parros. And we probably see him fired after seasons end.

- Santo_44

I doubt that now.

Gary's gonna Gary.

No way he lets the Rangers force the firing of Parros.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

May 6 @ 2:55 PM ET
Rangers fined $250k 🤣
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 6 @ 2:59 PM ET
Good Vaivebrations
@SuicidePass

Eastern Canada hockey rivalries, explained:








- Atomic Wedgie



Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 6 @ 3:01 PM ET
I doubt that now.

Gary's gonna Gary.

No way he lets the Rangers force the firing of Parros.

- Atomic Wedgie

When the dust settles in 2-3 months? Fans are like dogs and 1 year olds...they are onto the next thing in a matter of seconds.

This has just proved he isn’t fit for the position. He’ll be fired. Just not right away.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 6 @ 3:05 PM ET
When the dust settles in 2-3 months? Fans are like dogs and 1 year olds...they are onto the next thing in a matter of seconds.

This has just proved he isn’t fit for the position. He’ll be fired. Just not right away.

- Santo_44


This just bought him a year
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

May 6 @ 3:05 PM ET

- MaximusAurelius

Whatever Max. But I'll bet you'll soften your stance when you see what he adds for the team in the play-offs. I know some nights he looks to be coasting. But first place was never much in doubt this year.

JT will push his buttons when it's time to go. Trade that talent and we'll be looking to replace it in short order. There's an old saying from my workplace that used to apply to having stock on hand. Dare say it applies to talent as well. "Best to be looking at it, instead of looking for it".
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 6 @ 3:08 PM ET
2 thirds of all adults to have their first shot by the end of May to me is unacceptable.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 6 @ 3:13 PM ET
Don’t forget Garnie
- Garnie


Go (frank) yourself 😘
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

May 6 @ 3:16 PM ET
Whatever Max. But I'll bet you'll soften your stance when you see what he adds for the team in the play-offs. I know some nights he looks to be coasting. But first place was never much in doubt this year.

JT will push his buttons when it's time to go. Trade that talent and we'll be looking to replace it in short order. There's an old saying from my workplace that used to apply to having stock on hand. Dare say it applies to talent as well. "Best to be looking at it, instead of looking for it".

- Leafsmart


Don't get your hopes up. He's still angling for Keefe and Dubas to be fired ffs, willie could win the conn symthe and he'd still endlessly female dog about him. 😂
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 6 @ 3:19 PM ET
2 thirds of all adults to have their first shot by the end of May to me is unacceptable.
- bobbyisno1


Does Wednesday work for you?
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 6 @ 3:22 PM ET
Ander5(hole)en


Kristen Shilton
@kristen_shilton
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5m
Frederik Andersen starting this afternoon for the Marlies.

Couple solid saves early, then gives up a five-hole goal off a turnover
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

May 6 @ 3:24 PM ET
Ander5(hole)en
- TheMussel


At least we know he's okay and back to normal. 🤦🏻‍♂️
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 6 @ 3:26 PM ET
At least we know he's okay and back to normal. 🤦🏻‍♂️
- joel878


Yup, well on the way to giving up a couple of game 7 softies
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