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ShallowLarynx
Joined: 01.24.2012

May 5 @ 11:19 AM ET
If I'm Rangers I circle next Caps game and I would tell my guys I want you to slew foot, cross check, board, slash, spear every guy on the ice except Wilson. Wouldn't touch Wilson. Just skate by bench and tell Caps every dirty hit is for Wilson.

I'd especially interfere and run goalie.

I'd make sure the penalty box had multiple players in it for extended periods of game. Wouldn't care if I lost 15-0..

- coaster28


Couldn't agree more. The Rangers are out of the Playoffs. Wilson can handle his own. So show the stars on Wilson's team what the style of play Wilson wants to play feels like. Wilson won't have as many fans in the dressing room. Teammates don't mind guys like Wilson until one of two things happen...it starts costing them wins or it starts causing them pain!
Udogs
Joined: 09.19.2019

May 5 @ 11:19 AM ET
Sean Avery thinks NYR should dump the puck in, and run the goalie through the boards when he comes out to play it.
PghPens668771
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.26.2013

May 5 @ 11:46 AM ET
Sean Avery thinks NYR should dump the puck in, and run the goalie through the boards when he comes out to play it.
- Udogs


The problem with this is that the Capitals' goalies are their "weak link". Neither are especially good. This is why the Pens did so well against the Capitals this season (and why they struggled so much against the Bruins). It is probably not worth the effort/suspensions/etc. to go after them. Now, make sure that Carlson and Orlov are not available for the first two playoff rounds and they are done.
OrrFour
Joined: 11.04.2013

May 5 @ 11:55 AM ET
Parros has to go.
He's either too clueless to see what plays deserve discipline or he's too chicken-sh*t to take on his bosses... either way he's wrong for the job.

The league has to police itself otherwise, a fight on the ice is no different than a fight in the stands.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

May 5 @ 12:56 PM ET
One of the problems here is that while, in the "old NHL", there were plenty of tough guys who could have easily taken Wilson in a fair fight there are very few players in the modern NHL who could. I am not aware of any other Eastern division players who reliably could (aside from some of Wilson's teammates like Chara and if he is lucky, Hathaway). I guess maybe Matt Martin or Miles Wood could if they were lucky (Martin would definitely try, at least). Even Ryan Reaves lost a fight to Wilson once in the past (but also took him out with a glorious and well-deserved cheapshot, early in the 2018-19 season after Wilson's cheapshot against Marchessault in the SC Finals). Relative to the modern NHL, Wilson is a tough guy in addition to being a cheapshot artist and very dirty player. This makes him especially dangerous.

There are only two ways to deal with someone like Wilson in the modern NHL:
1. Beat his team on the scoreboard, in a meaningful game. In this case the Rangers do not have any meaningful games left so this isn't really a good option.

2. Deliberately target the Capitals' star players tonight with cheapshots intended to injure - even vicious shots to the head intended to concuss. I am not sure if Ovi or Carlson are back yet but at least go after Backstrom and Orlov. If the Caps go into the playoffs with Backstrom, Carlson, and Orlov out week to week Wilson will be hitting the golf course after the first or second playoff series. Should they play the Pens in the first series and be without Carlson and Orlov and with the caliber of goalies they have, the Pens' offense will torch them. Add an injured Backstrom to the mix and they might be done in 5 games.

- PghPens668771


Payback as soon as tonight isn't required, in fact doing the obvious immediately is just stupid.

The Rangers can pick their game anytime next season to extract some revenge on Wilson or some other unsuspecting sap playing for the Caps.

Thats the way Gordie Howe did it, his book of rememberance was extensive but payback often came years later. Just ask Lou Fontinato.
PghPens668771
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.26.2013

May 5 @ 2:37 PM ET
Payback as soon as tonight isn't required, in fact doing the obvious immediately is just stupid.

The Rangers can pick their game anytime next season to extract some revenge on Wilson or some other unsuspecting sap playing for the Caps.

Thats the way Gordie Howe did it, his book of rememberance was extensive but payback often came years later. Just ask Lou Fontinato.

- RickJ


As I and others have said, the Rangers do not have anyone who can exact revenge on Wilson directly. Most teams do not. The only truly good way to get back at him is indirectly, by taking out one of the Capitals' star players. They could do that in the middle or end of next season, causing the Capitals to perhaps loose a few regular season games next year. Or they could take out Backstrom or a top defensemen tonight, putting the Caps' playoff hopes in serious jeopardy. What do you think would upset Wilson more?
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

May 5 @ 3:02 PM ET
fair and honest indictment of teams GMs, coaches and teammates...none have the courage or principle to call guys like wilson out for who they are and the damage they do to the league and game. Really pathetic. As long as he is on MY team its the hypocrisy of crickets chirping.

Wilson has no respect for the game, his teammates or the opposition. He has no discipline or self control. He is a blight on the game. Somebody must have given Parros fake video of the incidents. He should have been thrown out for the rest of year and playoffs. See how his teammates would like that.
Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

May 5 @ 4:14 PM ET
Typical referee talking out both sides of his mouth. Says Chara is a legit tough guy then says no one on the Caps is tough enough to stop Wilson.

Another ref who wants to speak about doing the right thing then evening out the penalties so they can’t take blame.

Hockey is being destroyed from within.
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 5 @ 5:08 PM ET
Typical referee talking out both sides of his mouth. Says Chara is a legit tough guy then says no one on the Caps is tough enough to stop Wilson.

Another ref who wants to speak about doing the right thing then evening out the penalties so they can’t take blame.

Hockey is being destroyed from within.

- Shrike


You must be a Caps fan - even though you're too much of a coward to admit it.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 6 @ 2:20 PM ET
awesome write up
FloHaake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Tucson, AZ
Joined: 11.09.2006

May 6 @ 5:53 PM ET
I've never had such a visceral hate of a player like I do Tom Wilson.

No one likes a bully, and that is what he is. Ok, great, he can score and play normal shifts, but he's a bully, and bullies used to get what was coming to them in this game.

Now you put your team man down for standing up for what's right.

You know, if he gives Lucic a pop while laying on the ice then tossed Tkachuk like that, do we have the same reaction? No, all the right players are there to be involved in something like that. Still a cheapshot, but you expect it if those three guys are the on ice together.

No, Wilson knew who was on his back, and acted accordingly by grabbing his hair, body slamming, punching him in the face, then body slamming him one more time, helmetless, onto the ice. Bush league. Unlike many of the toughest guys in hockey forums, I have played this game. If I ever had a guy on a team, whether in high school, at the playground, at open hockey or in men's league, I didn't hide the fact that those kinds of "antics" are bullpoop and cowardly. I see the Caps organization from top to bottom as a total failure of leadership (in a different way from the Flyers lol), the fact that they sit there still, after 6 suspensions, numerous questionable actions, and enable it.




Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

May 7 @ 12:56 AM ET
You must be a Caps fan - even though you're too much of a coward to admit it.
- Nasty_Duck

You do realize that what I wrote not only condemns the department of player safety, it also shows that even in retirement this referee gets his own words confused and somehow deflects blame from refs who even though they got this call right, too often call balancing penalties in situations where the initial action is what needs to be punished.
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 7 @ 3:08 PM ET
You do realize that what I wrote not only condemns the department of player safety, it also shows that even in retirement this referee gets his own words confused and somehow deflects blame from refs who even though they got this call right, too often call balancing penalties in situations where the initial action is what needs to be punished.
- Shrike


What does that have to do with his take on Wilson?
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

May 12 @ 8:14 AM ET
Well stated, Paul. Any of those past (legit) NHL tough guys you listed could still tune up Wilson today, imo. If a p.o.s. like Wilson played during Dave Brown’s era, it would have been lights out for #43.
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