JJ made up for the quinn pick
- gerbe75pts

😍😍😍

Just noting how bad our drafting has been. Many years of selecting the wrong players. I know nothings a guarantee, but most experts put perfetti well a head of Quinn. Was it because we didn’t have room in our depth for another centre? Did the 1.2 scouts we actually employed see something everyone else missed?
I’m not counting out Quinn at all. Injuries most likely hindered his game and our organization is a cluster fork. I just believe Perfetti was the better pick and I’m tired of saying that year after year
- lulags

It's why drafting for need in the NHL is almost never a good idea. It's how you end up with a pick like Quinn or a pick like Kassian, among others.

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- Powerslave

Every mock I remember had Peterka no later than around 25, and some at around 20. I was very surprised he fell as far as he did.

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- Powerslave

When we do a re-draft in the future he will likely be a top 5 pick

I think where there is smoke there is fire.

May not be the Broncos, but I would not be surprised if he is moved.

Seems like the past couple of offseasons his name has come up in some way, shape, or form
- Pegullaville

I think if the Seahawks turned down what they did for Wilson there's no way Rodgers gets moved

Cujo was like a beta-version of Hasek. Loved Cujo when I was younger.
- BeadyEyedDouche

So Cujo just watched while Teddy railed his wife? That’s weird.

So Cujo just watched while Teddy railed his wife? That’s weird.
- Da_Cashman

[quote=Boss34]
Not even a slight on Girgensons.

Just an example

I had to include Lysell for this bit of his write-up alone:

He plays with a pace unmatched in the draft class, attacking each play like it’s game seven.
- kingcong39

if the sabres feel they're set at center for the next five years with jack, cozens, mitts and possibly skunk as their top-3, lysell is very appealing to me...am of the opinion that it's wide open in the top-5/6 and a trade down from 1/2 is a viable option this season dependent upon what the return is...and even the third-overall will get the sabres a nice forward

most over rated sabre

ever
- homiedclown

ryan miller

shoe-in us hockey hall of famer:

--2001 hobey baker winner
--2010 olympic mvp
--09/10 vezina winner

amongst american-born goalies:

1st wins 391
1st .914 sv% (minimum 500 games played)
2nd 795 games played
2nd 44 shutouts (minimum 500 games played)
3rd 2.64 GAA (minimum 500 games played)

sabres:

1st games played (540)
1st wins (284)
2nd GAA (2.60, min 300 games)
2nd Sv% (.916 min 300 games)
2nd shutouts (28 min 300 games)

if the sabres feel they're set at center for the next five years with jack, cozens, mitts and possibly skunk as their top-3, lysell is very appealing to me...am of the opinion that it's wide open in the top-5/6 and a trade down from 1/2 is a viable option this season dependent upon what the return is...and even the third-overall will get the sabres a nice forward
- Michael Pachla

Don't draft for need. Draft whoever they think is the best player available when they pick.

Don't draft for need. Draft whoever they think is the best player available when they pick.
- kingcong39

i get that, and i happen to think that the best players with the highest upside are on the wing and i'm really liking what lysell brings...guarantee they'll be tempted to take beniers none-the-less

ryan miller

shoe-in us hockey hall of famer:

--2001 hobey baker winner
--2010 olympic mvp
--09/10 vezina winner

amongst american-born goalies:

1st wins 391
1st .914 sv% (minimum 500 games played)
2nd 795 games played
2nd 44 shutouts (minimum 500 games played)
3rd 2.64 GAA (minimum 500 games played)

sabres:

1st games played (540)
1st wins (284)
2nd GAA (2.60, min 300 games)
2nd Sv% (.916 min 300 games)
2nd shutouts (28 min 300 games)
- Michael Pachla

hall of good

Don't draft for need. Draft whoever they think is the best player available when they pick.
- kingcong39

In My Opinion Only, this whole BPA only notion is such silliness, as is proven every year by our own draft wizards the Buffalo Bills.
They and most NFL teams draft for BPA only within a narrow list of positions based on Needs.

In this upcoming NHL draft where there is no consensus #1, and even the top 5 to top 10 is clearly less defined, sure..draft the BPA ...but from F's ...and continue it through rounds 2 and 3.

hall of good
- homiedclown

haters gonna hate

if the sabres feel they're set at center for the next five years with jack, cozens, mitts and possibly skunk as their top-3, lysell is very appealing to me...am of the opinion that it's wide open in the top-5/6 and a trade down from 1/2 is a viable option this season dependent upon what the return is...and even the third-overall will get the sabres a nice forward
- Michael Pachla

I don't disagree as the limited info I have read on Lysell makes him attractive. There isn't much video I have seen on him so my eyes could validate the write-ups though.

Guenther (sp?) Looked very good to my eyes and I like his write-ups as well. I think it is between Beniers and Guenther for 1st...but Lysell intrigues me as well.

I don't disagree as the limited info I have read on Lysell makes him attractive. There isn't much video I have seen on him so my eyes could validate the write-ups though.

Guenther (sp?) Looked very good to my eyes and I like his write-ups as well. I think it is between Beniers and Guenther for 1st...but Lysell intrigues me as well.
- IonSabres

agreed...point being, have no problem trading out of 1/2 if the return is sufficient (at least)...don't have a problem at no. 3 as they'll get themselves a nice forward there...hell, they could fall to 6 and still get one of those top forwards

here's a good vid...it's just one game but really shows how well he skates and attacks the game:

In My Opinion Only, this whole BPA only notion is such silliness, as is proven every year by our own draft wizards the Buffalo Bills.
They and most NFL teams draft for BPA only within a narrow list of positions based on Needs.

In this upcoming NHL draft where there is no consensus #1, and even the top 5 to top 10 is clearly less defined, sure..draft the BPA ...but from F's ...and continue it through rounds 2 and 3.
- IonSabres

The bold is one of the main reasons why teams consistently miss on drafting good players, in all rounds. It's a common mistake.

In My Opinion Only, this whole BPA only notion is such silliness, as is proven every year by our own draft wizards the Buffalo Bills.
They and most NFL teams draft for BPA only within a narrow list of positions based on Needs.

In this upcoming NHL draft where there is no consensus #1, and even the top 5 to top 10 is clearly less defined, sure..draft the BPA ...but from F's ...and continue it through rounds 2 and 3.
- IonSabres

That's a related discussion to me, regarding which positions have the greatest on ice impacts.

I agree with focusing on forwards but that's because I believe they have the biggest impact on a team's success on the ice.

That's a related discussion to me, regarding which positions have the greatest on ice impacts.

I agree with focusing on forwards but that's because I believe they have the biggest impact on a team's success on the ice.
- kingcong39

hypothetical

sabres have first overall...they believe (not you, i or anyone else) owen power is bpa?

do you take him?

or,

do you look at the values you've given prospects...if, for instance, beniers is rated lower than power, but not by much, do you still stick with bpa?

haters gonna hate
- Michael Pachla

the best take I got for him to be in the hall of fame, is he is american


hall of good

the best take I got for him to be in the hall of fame, is he is american


hall of good
- homiedclown

i said usa hall of fame, not hockey hall of fame

hypothetical

sabres have first overall...they believe (not you, i or anyone else) owen power is bpa?

do you take him?

or,

do you look at the values you've given prospects...if, for instance, beniers is rated lower than power, but not by much, do you still stick with bpa?
- Michael Pachla

If they believe he is the best player, then draft him.

The only reason I wouldn't take him in the top 3 spots is I believe all of Beniers, Guenther, and Eklund are better prospects, but I also fully understand my knowledge limitations compared to many others on draft prospects.

hypothetical

sabres have first overall...they believe (not you, i or anyone else) owen power is bpa?

do you take him?

or,

do you look at the values you've given prospects...if, for instance, beniers is rated lower than power, but not by much, do you still stick with bpa?
- Michael Pachla

The fact that the Sabres are making the pick is why I want them to trade down.

They have like 4 scouts and the analytics department is probably so demoralized that they're playing doom on a graphing calculator in the basement

If they believe he is the best player, then draft him.

The only reason I wouldn't take him in the top 3 spots is I believe all of Beniers, Guenther, and Eklund are better prospects, but I also fully understand my knowledge limitations compared to many others on draft prospects.
- kingcong39

it seems to me that there are five or six prospects who are real close...of course, like you said, a scouting department has much more info than you or i...that said, if there's a slight difference in the value you place on each player, why not go for a position of need?