So in other words. MLB and the Blue Jays decided to be judge, jury and executioner to someone as of now is classified by law as completely innocent. Sounds to me to be a massive class action lawsuit in favour of Alomar even if he's a douche bag and in the end guilty.
- Buck Norris

Employers are allowed to fire employees.

Organizations are allowed to disassociate themselves from former employees.

Neither of these things have anything to do with someone being innocent or not.

They killed him? I thought they just decided they don’t to have anything to do with his scummy ass.

You should try to sue Ek next time you’re banned or some woman next time she decides she decided she doesn’t want you around her. Call Rudy G, I hear he’s good.
- Canada Cup

How do you know he's a scummy ass? He prolly is and in no way I'm sticking up for him but its all hear say until a court of law says other wise IMO.

How does this happen and I'm not a Dermott hater and yes I know plus minus can't be trusted but. Brodie +23, Rielly +15, Muzzin +12, Holl +10, Bogosian +7, Dermott -2. All have played 45 games or more so that -2 sticks out a bit if the other five of your top six are big plus's. Plus I just noticed Sandn is a +6 in only three games, kids been impressive so far. Oh and Brodie is a (frank)in beast IMO.
- Buck Norris

Dermott has 5% shooting while he’s on the ice and Sandin has 14%

Dermott’s goalies are .930 while Sandin is at .1000 so far.

Ah. So are they barring him from future employment/consultancy?
- Canada Cup

Yes.

Forever.

He’s like Pete Rose.

If you’re not fired for just cause or because of an allegation that you beat in court you usually end up richer after. 🤷🏻‍♂️

How do you know he's a scummy ass? He prolly is and in no way I'm sticking up for him but its all hear say until a court of law says other wise IMO.
- Buck Norris

Not all scumminess goes to court. Didn’t Wedgie’s post say the woman isn’t going to pursue it legally? We don’t need guilty beyond a reasonable doubt to form opinions. I’m not going to read MLB’s report. My assumption is that didn’t want the embarrassment of this finding and the poop storm they’re dealing with now. I’ll come to my own conclusions.

With a win tonight, the Leafs are guaranteed to finish at least 2nd in their division.

The last time they finished that high was 2003-04.

- 21peter

Is it weird I'm hoping I "forgot" who he is instead of it being that I just "don't know" who he is?

Employers are allowed to fire employees.

Organizations are allowed to disassociate themselves from former employees.

Neither of these things have anything to do with someone being innocent or not.
- Leafs43

Yes I agree. But once you publicly scrutinize someone it turns into its own can of worms was all I was trying to say.

Where did your post go CC?

Anyways, I know a fireman who was fired because he was charged with beating or kidnapping of a girl and he beat it and became pretty wealthy.

Probably doesn’t always go that way but more times then not I would think.

Not all scumminess goes to court. Didn’t Wedgie’s post say the woman isn’t going to pursue it legally? We don’t need guilty beyond a reasonable doubt to form opinions. I’m not going to read MLB’s report. My assumption is that didn’t want the embarrassment of this finding and the poop storm they’re dealing with now. I’ll come to my own conclusions.
- Canada Cup

You’re not going to read MLB’s report because it’s not being made public.

I am wildly speculating here, but it sounds more like violation of MLB’s workplace sexual harassment policies, rather than something like rape.

How serious? Does the punishment fit the non-crime? We have no way of knowing.

I’m in agreement with Rosie DiManno, who wrote:

“ I wish there were more details disclosed about the alleged incident, which surely could have been done without identifying the complainant.”

Is it weird I'm hoping I "forgot" who he is instead of it being that I just "don't know" who he is?


- Barb34

I’ve never understood the allure of F1.

There was that crazy stat where for an entire season, there were no lead changes on the track - they all came in the pits.

To each their own.

Not all scumminess goes to court. Didn’t Wedgie’s post say the woman isn’t going to pursue it legally? We don’t need guilty beyond a reasonable doubt to form opinions. I’m not going to read MLB’s report. My assumption is that didn’t want the embarrassment of this finding and the poop storm they’re dealing with now. I’ll come to my own conclusions.
- Canada Cup

Agree with ya. He prolly is an Asshat. Just stating the other side of the coin. Which is all I was getting at.

Agree with ya. He prolly is an Asshat. Just stating the other side of the coin. Which is all I was getting at.
- Buck Norris

It’s human nature.

A public figure is stripped of his reputation.

Of course we are going to be curious what he did.

How do you know he's a scummy ass? He prolly is and in no way I'm sticking up for him but its all hear say until a court of law says other wise IMO.
- Buck Norris

Just my opinion, but it sounds like this may have been the best of two “worse case scenarios” for Alomar vs what this could have become...at the request of the victim.
If Alomar wasn’t part of any wrong doing, I am sure things would progress as you mention. But, it’s obvious to me he is guilty of something, this isn’t just between the victim and Alomar. Choosing that fight could produce the exact same results, but add further embarrassment, financial loss and may include the loss of Alomar’s freedom. Again, just an opinion. Sounds like this was one of two very unfavourable options for Alomar - not because he is innocent, but because the victim chose not to pursue this in court...as poopty as this is for Alomar, this was better than the alternative.

A Calgary win tonight would be yuge.

Just my opinion, but it sounds like this may have been the best of two “worse case scenarios” for Alomar vs what this could have become...at the request of the victim.
If Alomar wasn’t part of any wrong doing, I am sure things would progress as you mention. But, it’s obvious to me he is guilty of something, this isn’t just between the victim and Alomar. Choosing that fight could produce the exact same results, but add further embarrassment, financial loss and may include the loss of Alomar’s freedom. Again, just an opinion. Sounds like this was one of two very unfavourable options for Alomar - not because he is innocent, but because the victim chose not to pursue this in court...as poopty as this is for Alomar, this was better than the alternative.
- Woderwick

We need The Law in here, but my guess is he isn’t being accused of an actual crime, because there’s no way MLB would conduct an investigation into something like rape, and not turn it over to the police.

Even if there is no legal obligation to do so (I don’t know the answer to that), the PR blowback of covering up a crime like rape would be waaaaaaay too high a risk.

Just my opinion, but it sounds like this may have been the best of two “worse case scenarios” for Alomar vs what this could have become...at the request of the victim.
If Alomar wasn’t part of any wrong doing, I am sure things would progress as you mention. But, it’s obvious to me he is guilty of something, this isn’t just between the victim and Alomar. Choosing that fight could produce the exact same results, but add further embarrassment, financial loss and may include the loss of Alomar’s freedom. Again, just an opinion. Sounds like this was one of two very unfavourable options for Alomar - not because he is innocent, but because the victim chose not to pursue this in court...as poopty as this is for Alomar, this was better than the alternative.
- Woderwick

These words never cease to send chills down my spine.

A Calgary win tonight would be yuge.
- Atomic Wedgie

Do you care who the Leafs play first round?

Do you care who the Leafs play first round?
- Woderwick

I am obsessed with them finishing first, even though I don’t think it makes a huge difference.

I want Montreal - FFS, we haven’t met them in the playoffs since 1979. I have no memories of it.

It’s time.

We need The Law in here, but my guess is he isn’t being accused of an actual crime, because there’s no way MLB would conduct an investigation into something like rape, and not turn it over to the police.

Even if there is no legal obligation to do so (I don’t know the answer to that), the PR blowback of covering up a crime like rape would be waaaaaaay too high a risk.
- Atomic Wedgie

Exactly, but I don’t think this even has to involve rape.

We need The Law in here, but my guess is he isn’t being accused of an actual crime, because there’s no way MLB would conduct an investigation into something like rape, and not turn it over to the police.

Even if there is no legal obligation to do so (I don’t know the answer to that), the PR blowback of covering up a crime like rape would be waaaaaaay too high a risk.
- Atomic Wedgie

If its not an actual crime and your publicly scrutinized. Isn't that a true case of defamation of character?

If its not an actual crime and your publicly scrutinized. Isn't that a true case of defamation of character?
- Buck Norris

Only if he takes it to court and proves that all the things they said are untrue. Then the burden of proof is on him and they can pour all the poop into the public record. I very much doubt we see him do that.

It’s one of the things that Trump is going to get nailed on.

Why are you so hung up whether there’s an actual crime?

If its not an actual crime and your publicly scrutinized. Isn't that a true case of defamation of character?
- Buck Norris

Not necessarily.

And keep in mind I am not a lawyer, so these are opinions.

But let’s say a boss sends an employee working under him unsolicited dikpics.

Company has an employee anti-harassment policy, so dude gets fired.

Does he deserve to be fired? Yes

Is he a P.O.S.? Yes

Is he guilty of a crime? I think the answer is no, but I am happy to be corrected if wrong.

I know leafs need to use their playoff lineup but Robertson could really use some games.

Wouldn’t mind seeing Galchenyuk and Robertson split some time down the stretch.