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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 30 @ 11:54 AM ET
I am trying to figure out the expansion draft and hear lots of players the board feels the Kraken should take (rose glasses), but why wouldn't they take a guy like NAK instead of the bloated contracts we have?
- JW98FlyerFan


There's just no way of knowing who they pick.

We like to assume they'll take the best player, or the most promising player, but they could also be looking for somebody they could flip further down the road, or somebody who fits a role on their team right away, like PEB did for Vegas.

Wouldn't be surprised if they took NAK. Or Hagg. Or JVR. Or just about anybody really.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Apr 30 @ 11:58 AM ET
Why would the Flyers give away a first and lose the players you listed? Who would they be protecting at that point?
- JW98FlyerFan


I was looking at the scenario from the perspective of the Kraken, not the Flyers.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 30 @ 12:01 PM ET
Curious... “ BE A (frank)ING FLYER” is this season what A.V. meant?
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Apr 30 @ 12:08 PM ET
Man I did not see this season play out like this. Not at all. Majority same players who tore up the NHL last season became bottom feeders this season.

There has to be a bigger poop show in flyers history, right?!
CupOnBroadSt.
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.23.2012

Apr 30 @ 12:16 PM ET
Man I did not see this season play out like this. Not at all. Majority same players who tore up the NHL last season became bottom feeders this season.

There has to be a bigger poop show in flyers history, right?!

- Bob Habib


2006-2007 comes close, but I KNEW that team was bad from the start of that season.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Apr 30 @ 12:16 PM ET
Man I did not see this season play out like this. Not at all. Majority same players who tore up the NHL last season became bottom feeders this season.

There has to be a bigger poop show in flyers history, right?!

- Bob Habib


It has certainly been the biggest gap between preseason expectations and the actually reality of what played out. Grand Canyon

bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Apr 30 @ 12:17 PM ET
You could build a roster with the former flyers players that have one Stanley cups since leaving Philadelphia, including one head coach. We must be doing something right, right?
- SuperSchennBros


Your scouts seem to hit nothing but home-runs. Always quality players in the system. No clue what happened to this club this season, but it safe to say everyone else should be concerned regarding their job security.
CupOnBroadSt.
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.23.2012

Apr 30 @ 12:19 PM ET
It has certainly been the biggest gap between preseason expectations and the actually reality of what played out. Grand Canyon
- NC Flyers Fan


Yeah. After last season, and almost making the conference finals, this was a hard gut punch to the fanbase. Just a major clusterpoop on the part of the organization, not upgrading significantly on defense.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Apr 30 @ 12:25 PM ET
Yeah. Just a major clusterpoop on the part of the organization, not upgrading significantly on defense.
- CupOnBroadSt.


Yep. The results are pulling everything into question now. Top down. The list of things I have high confidence regarding have gotten smaller.

chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Apr 30 @ 12:28 PM ET
Mathematically eliminated? Here we go, bringing fancy analytics and maths into the hockey convo again. What about the intangibles like character, grit, poise, stick-to-it'ness? I think they are still in based on those, no?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 30 @ 12:31 PM ET
2006-2007 comes close, but I KNEW that team was bad from the start of that season.
- CupOnBroadSt.


Weird, because they were considered a Cup contenders that year.

Maybe this sounds familiar... but all the young players stagnated (Carter, Richards, Pitkanen, Umberger), they had a blueline mix of kids and dinosaurs that couldn't keep the puck out of the net, the goaltending was absolutely horrible, and the UFA's brought in did jack poop (Kyle Calder).

And Footpa happened and Primeau got knocked out half a dozen games in.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Apr 30 @ 12:37 PM ET

I better see some lineup changes tomorrow. They best not throw the G-Coots-Voracek line out there again for the rest of the season! Now they play only for each other, the future evaluations and their pride. Who has any left?

I hope the Flyers start Lyon 4 more games—the 2 remaining Devils games and split the back-to-backs with Elliott.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Apr 30 @ 12:41 PM ET
Weird, because they were considered a Cup contenders that year.

Maybe this sounds familiar... but all the young players stagnated (Carter, Richards, Pitkanen, Umberger), they had a blueline mix of kids and dinosaurs that couldn't keep the puck out of the net, the goaltending was absolutely horrible, and the UFA's brought in did jack poop (Kyle Calder).

And Footpa happened and Primeau got knocked out half a dozen games in.

- Tomahawk


I really can’t draw many parallels between that ‘06 season and this one.

bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Apr 30 @ 12:46 PM ET
I better see some lineup changes tomorrow. They best not throw the G-Coots-Voracek line out there again for the rest of the season! Now they play only for each other, the future evaluations and their pride. Who has any left?

I hope the Flyers start Lyon 4 more games—the 2 remaining Devils games and split the back-to-backs with Elliott.

- NC Flyers Fan


You mean you're still watching?
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 30 @ 12:49 PM ET
[quote=Ftown19125]LyoN blows like a 5cent hoe! And YoE and Therrien bad coachs/quote]

Agree 👍

- Landsbergfan


how many goals did he give up through the 5 hoe?
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 30 @ 12:50 PM ET
I would like to know the atmosphere in the locker room.
- Pompous



Think Bushwood Country Club
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 30 @ 1:30 PM ET


i'll be so angry if his play is as bad next season. you can't sign that deal and be nonexistent after the first year.

- Ftown19125


He was playing great before the COVID shutdown. Swore he was at or close to a point per game
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Apr 30 @ 1:31 PM ET
You mean you're still watching?
- bradster


I probably should not be but yes. I am looking forward to the offseason to get in a better mental state regarding the outlook for the coming seasons. I wish I could say I see a clear plan to move forward but this has been really rough.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 30 @ 1:48 PM ET
Mathematically eliminated? Here we go, bringing fancy analytics and maths into the hockey convo again. What about the intangibles like character, grit, poise, stick-to-it'ness? I think they are still in based on those, no?
- chimpira


Beat it. The Penguins window is closed...... and they were bankrupt!
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Apr 30 @ 1:51 PM ET
He was playing great before the COVID shutdown. Swore he was at or close to a point per game
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Not all about points, he was still horrible. We were winning games pre Covid because we were scoring at a high rate, the terrible defense was still there. This team did not play good hockey all year.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 30 @ 1:57 PM ET
And both the schenns
- ClaudeFather


And Gagne, Brind'amour, Williams, Coburn, Streit, Sharp, Carcillo, Timonen, Eager
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 30 @ 2:01 PM ET
I am trying to figure out the expansion draft and hear lots of players the board feels the Kraken should take (rose glasses), but why wouldn't they take a guy like NAK instead of the bloated contracts we have?
- JW98FlyerFan


Playing short-handed is no way for an expansion team to survive.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Apr 30 @ 2:24 PM ET
And Gagne, Brind'amour, Williams, Coburn, Streit, Sharp, Carcillo, Timonen, Eager
- Scoob

Streit, I don’t recall him winning . Who did he win with
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Apr 30 @ 2:28 PM ET
Streit, I don’t recall him winning . Who did he win with
- ClaudeFather


pittsburgh
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Apr 30 @ 2:36 PM ET
pittsburgh
- Doc_Sarcasm

Ohhh right , did he play at all? Couple games maybe ?
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