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Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 30 @ 4:40 PM ET
That's the thing: Vancouver has very little to offer. You don't think every single team out there will be exposing a Gadjovich or Lind? Lots of teams will be exposing better players... Gadj and Lind are basically the baseline for expansion picks.

So, the equation is.. if Seattle is going to take on contracts with sweetners, is it better to take Gadj/Lind/Motte from the Canucks + whatever bad contract and sweetner another team is offering, or is it better to take a bad contract and sweetner from the Canucks + what that other team is exposing?

I'm thinking that since the Canucks are exposing shit players and will probably be drafting low again, it's better to take a pick plus bad contract from our team.

- NewYorkNuck


That is what I was getting at, most teams will be exposing proven talent, while the Canucks will be exposing mostly garbage. I see Seattle taking a young unproven player over the expensive garbage.
Seattle will need to have some youth, not just a bunch of overpaid older players.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 30 @ 4:40 PM ET
Lol
- CanuckDon

Pfizer.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 30 @ 4:40 PM ET
I agree. So basically the Canucks will be protecting seven forwards, three defencemen, and one goaltender and don’t need to protect Quinn Hughes, Nils Höglander, Jack Rathbone, or Michael DiPietro.

I think I read that Pearson has a non-contract agreement that he must be protected. Protecting three d-men will not be a problem

So take away the obvious choices and you have two spots for Tyler Motte, Kole Lind, Jonah Gadjovich, Jake Virtanen, and a bunch of fringe scraps.

I would protect Lind and JV with the hopes of trading JV after the expansion draft.

- bloatedmosquito

Virtanen's contract lowers his value tremendously. Even if he rebounds the cash and qualifying offer won't be worth it. Lind and Motte are probably the two I pick, though I think Gadjovich and Lind have fairly similar and low value as prospects

(Edit: I see your many responses after the fact. Virtanen would cost probably one of Lind/Gadjovich to move out and I'd consider it...)
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Apr 30 @ 4:42 PM ET
Never know. A new coach could turn his career around. Why not in Canuck Blue?
- 1970vintage

I was just typing the same thing, with new Coach and GM. This entire team needs a full blown culture change.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 30 @ 4:43 PM ET
It's not exactly "nothing", just not getting another player taken. Which is riiiight next to nothing, though.

JV has been given every opportunity. Time to move on.

- NewYorkNuck

He has been coached by Green his entire professional career. He goes somewhere else and probably scores 30 next season with another NHL team.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 30 @ 4:44 PM ET
Virtanen's contract lowers his value tremendously. Even if he rebounds the cash and qualifying offer won't be worth it. Lind and Motte are probably the two I pick, though I think Gadjovich and Lind have fairly similar and low value as prospects

(Edit: I see your many responses after the fact. Virtanen would cost probably one of Lind/Gadjovich to move out and I'd consider it...)

- WhiteLie

JV is a buyout.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 30 @ 4:45 PM ET
I was just typing the same thing, with new Coach and GM. This entire team needs a full blown culture change.
- Load Management

Babcock, Montgomery, Hartley. Lots to change.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 30 @ 4:47 PM ET
Bartley Kives

@bkives

People under 30 now make up 55% of Manitoba's active #COVID19 cases

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 30 @ 4:51 PM ET
JABO Vancouver
2000-01 (Naslund, Bertuzzi, Morrisson, Ohlund, Jovo) Avg age 25
2006-07 (Sedin, Sedin, Kesler, Burrows, Luongo) Avg age 25.2
2019-20 (Horvat, Petey, Boeser, Hughes, Demko) Avg age 22.2
The average age when each of these cores made the playoffs the first time

Average Age of Stanley Cup Champions By Decade 1980's - 25.73 1990's - 27.73 2000's - 29.57 2010's - 28.03 While the the league may be getting younger facts show that since the beginning of the dead puck era few teams made up of young core groups win cups

NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 30 @ 4:53 PM ET
I don't care who is protected or who is picked on this sh*tty team.
- Marwood

Tempted to screenshot this for later.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Apr 30 @ 4:59 PM ET
That is what I was getting at, most teams will be exposing proven talent, while the Canucks will be exposing mostly garbage. I see Seattle taking a young unproven player over the expensive garbage.
Seattle will need to have some youth, not just a bunch of overpaid older players.

- Reubenkincade


Not every team will lose "overpaid older players", some teams are going to lose some good young guys as well.

Either way, it'll be interesting to see who does side deals, and which types of players Seattle targets.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 30 @ 5:03 PM ET
Not every team will lose "overpaid older players", some teams are going to lose some good young guys as well.

Either way, it'll be interesting to see who does side deals, and which types of players Seattle targets.

- NewYorkNuck


I wouldn’t be surprised to see Vancouver add a sweetener to get out of an overpaid vet with Seattle.
I hope they overhaul the roster with ever means available: buyouts, trades, wavers etc.
Edit. As well as doing deals with teams that have actual good players to lose in the entry draft.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 30 @ 5:04 PM ET
Pfizer.
- Marwood

This hurts
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 30 @ 5:08 PM ET
Tempted to screenshot this for later.
- NorthNuck

Put it on a banner behind a plane. Make it your location. I don't care.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 30 @ 5:10 PM ET
Buddy just sent me some screen shots from Twitter.
Virtanen may be in a heap of trouble after some pretty bad allegations came out about him, and looks like he instantly deleted all or his social media accounts.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 30 @ 5:12 PM ET
Buddy just sent me some screen shots from Twitter.
Virtanen may be in a heap of trouble after some pretty bad allegations came out about him, and looks like he instantly deleted all or his social media accounts.

- Codes1087

Brutal
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 30 @ 5:13 PM ET
Buddy just sent me some screen shots from Twitter.
Virtanen may be in a heap of trouble after some pretty bad allegations came out about him, and looks like he instantly deleted all or his social media accounts.

- Codes1087


Any word on what kind of trouble?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 30 @ 5:13 PM ET
Brutal
- CanuckDon


He just sent me the screenshots of the allegations. They are pretty disgusting if true.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 30 @ 5:14 PM ET
Any word on what kind of trouble?
- Reubenkincade

I suspect it has to do with girls....hopefully not
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Apr 30 @ 5:14 PM ET
He just sent me the screenshots of the allegations. They are pretty disgusting if true.
- Codes1087


Coles Notes? Couldn't see anything on Twitter
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 30 @ 5:14 PM ET
I suspect it has to do with girls....hopefully not
- CanuckDon


It does.
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Apr 30 @ 5:14 PM ET
My protected list -- 1G, 3D, 7F

G -- Demko
D -- OJ, Myers, Schmidt. (Hughes is not eligible, Myers has a NMC, Rathbone not eligible)
F -- Pettersson, Boeser, Horvat, Miller, Pearson, Motte, Lind (Hogz, Podz not eligible, Pearson has a non-contract commitment)

exposes
JV and the sea of Granlunds, Gadjovich on F
Chatfield, Brisebois, Sautner, Rafferty on D
Holtby at G

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 30 @ 5:17 PM ET
Coles Notes? Couldn't see anything on Twitter
- NewYorkNuck


I dont have a Twitter account. I'm not sure how to search it without one.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 30 @ 5:17 PM ET
It does.
- Codes1087

He gets around. I know some girls he has slept with. Hopefully the allegations aren’t true
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 30 @ 5:18 PM ET
It does.
- Codes1087


If true, hopefully he spends time in jail.
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