And that’s perfectly fine. My beef is not with you guys liking him. As I said, he’s a likeable guy. But to say he’s one of the best penalty killers in the league when he is obviously not is taking it a bit too far. As for protecting him... I just don’t see why.

But TBH there are very few players I would protect on this team.
- bloatedmosquito

And that’s perfectly fine. My beef is not with you guys liking him. As I said, he’s a likeable guy. But to say he’s one of the best penalty killers in the league when he is obviously not is taking it a bit too far. As for protecting him... I just don’t see why.

But TBH there are very few players I would protect on this team.
- bloatedmosquito

Ha.
True.

JB is a genius.

And that’s perfectly fine. My beef is not with you guys liking him. As I said, he’s a likeable guy. But to say he’s one of the best penalty killers in the league when he is obviously not is taking it a bit too far. As for protecting him... I just don’t see why.

But TBH there are very few players I would protect on this team.
- bloatedmosquito

Come on now: Elias, Miller, horvat, Demko, Schmidt, Lind ( ) and Gadj. There are some players worth protecting

And that’s perfectly fine. My beef is not with you guys liking him. As I said, he’s a likeable guy. But to say he’s one of the best penalty killers in the league when he is obviously not is taking it a bit too far. As for protecting him... I just don’t see why.

But TBH there are very few players I would protect on this team.
- bloatedmosquito

Given what Vancouver has, I have a hard time deciding whether to or not. He is someone I'd target at as a TDL addition on a contending team, seems like someone who'd seamlessly join a bottom 6 with some versatility, so asset management wants me to protect. But I also acknowledge that by watching him so much I might also overvalue him. He's replaceable but to me the question is protecting the best asset for the right price

Ha.
True.

JB is a genius.
- dbot

Truly is. The mind games he plays with the fan base. A new level of GMing.

And that’s perfectly fine. My beef is not with you guys liking him. As I said, he’s a likeable guy. But to say he’s one of the best penalty killers in the league when he is obviously not is taking it a bit too far. As for protecting him... I just don’t see why.

But TBH there are very few players I would protect on this team.
- bloatedmosquito

I remember reading a write up about his PK stats last year that went in depth, I'll see if I can find it. His numbers on the PK are worse this year, but he is still clearly in the top group purely based on how many goals have been allowed with him out there.

Frankly, if you were really worried about losing one of Lind or Gadjovich to Seattle, then expose Pearson and protect them both.

Come on now: Elias, Miller, horvat, Demko, Schmidt, Lind ( ) and Gadj. There are some players worth protecting
- CanuckDon

Come on now: Elias, Miller, horvat, Demko, Schmidt, Lind ( ) and Gadj. There are some players worth protecting
- CanuckDon

You're a piece of work Don!

I would trade him for a late 2nd in 2022 draft
- manvanfan

If Vanek could turn into a 2nd now, I’d be ecstatic!

Truly is. The mind games he plays with the fan base. A new level of GMing.
- manvanfan

We should petition Webster’s or Oxford’s dictionary to add a new verb: GMJBing = out wit your opponents one day at a time

Given what Vancouver has, I have a hard time deciding whether to or not. He is someone I'd target at as a TDL addition on a contending team, seems like someone who'd seamlessly join a bottom 6 with some versatility, so asset management wants me to protect. But I also acknowledge that by watching him so much I might also overvalue him. He's replaceable but to me the question is protecting the best asset for the right price
- WhiteLie

I agree. So basically the Canucks will be protecting seven forwards, three defencemen, and one goaltender and don’t need to protect Quinn Hughes, Nils Höglander, Jack Rathbone, or Michael DiPietro.

I think I read that Pearson has a non-contract agreement that he must be protected. Protecting three d-men will not be a problem

So take away the obvious choices and you have two spots for Tyler Motte, Kole Lind, Jonah Gadjovich, Jake Virtanen, and a bunch of fringe scraps.

I would protect Lind and JV with the hopes of trading JV after the expansion draft.

Have you seen what the Canucks can offer up in expansion?
I am 90%sure that if Lind or Gadjovich are exposed, Seattle will take that player.
Seattle is not going to take everyone's cap dumps, although I am sure they will take a few, with the added sweeteners, but they will want some younger and cheaper players as well.
- Reubenkincade

That's the thing: Vancouver has very little to offer. You don't think every single team out there will be exposing a Gadjovich or Lind? Lots of teams will be exposing better players... Gadj and Lind are basically the baseline for expansion picks.

So, the equation is.. if Seattle is going to take on contracts with sweetners, is it better to take Gadj/Lind/Motte from the Canucks + whatever bad contract and sweetner another team is offering, or is it better to take a bad contract and sweetner from the Canucks + what that other team is exposing?

I'm thinking that since the Canucks are exposing shit players and will probably be drafting low again, it's better to take a pick plus bad contract from our team.

I agree. So basically the Canucks will be protecting seven forwards, three defencemen, and one goaltender and don’t need to protect Quinn Hughes, Nils Höglander, Jack Rathbone, or Michael DiPietro.

I think I read that Pearson has a non-contract agreement that he must be protected. Protecting three d-men will not be a problem

So take away the obvious choices and you have two spots for Tyler Motte, Kole Lind, Jonah Gadjovich, Jake Virtanen, and a bunch of fringe scraps.

I would protect Lind and JV with the hopes of trading JV after the expansion draft.
- bloatedmosquito

I mean, at that point, why not expose him? Canucks couldn't find a trade partner this year for him, his value is super – what do you realistically think he could fetch? If Seattle takes him, that's basically a wash.

Man, you old geezers are sure out of it when it comes to current pop culture
- 1970vintage

🤷‍♂️ I don't watch TV except hockey and NFL and whenever Newcastle is on the telly.

I agree. So basically the Canucks will be protecting seven forwards, three defencemen, and one goaltender and don’t need to protect Quinn Hughes, Nils Höglander, Jack Rathbone, or Michael DiPietro.

I think I read that Pearson has a non-contract agreement that he must be protected. Protecting three d-men will not be a problem

So take away the obvious choices and you have two spots for Tyler Motte, Kole Lind, Jonah Gadjovich, Jake Virtanen, and a bunch of fringe scraps.

I would protect Lind and JV with the hopes of trading JV after the expansion draft.
- bloatedmosquito

Seattle isn’t taking JV.
No need to protect him.
If we can somehow finally trade him , then go for it. But I doubt there would be any takers after this years results.

I’d protect Motte and Lind.
I’d be very surprised if Seattle scoops up Gadjovich after 1 decent year on a fugly Utica team.

That's the thing: Vancouver has very little to offer. You don't think every single team out there will be exposing a Gadjovich or Lind? Lots of teams will be exposing better players... Gadj and Lind are basically the baseline for expansion picks.

So, the equation is.. if Seattle is going to take on contracts with sweetners, is it better to take Gadj/Lind/Motte from the Canucks + whatever bad contract and sweetner another team is offering, or is it better to take a bad contract and sweetner from the Canucks + what that other team is exposing?

I'm thinking that since the Canucks are exposing shit players and will probably be drafting low again, it's better to take a pick plus bad contract from our team.
- NewYorkNuck

I don't care who is protected or who is picked on this sh*tty team.

🤷‍♂️ I don't watch TV except hockey and NFL and whenever Newcastle is on the telly.
- Makita

But you know who Howard Stern and Rush Limbaugh are though right?

Rogan isn’t on TV anymore as far as I know, he rules the internet now.

I mean, at that point, why not expose him? Canucks couldn't find a trade partner this year for him, his value is super – what do you realistically think he could fetch? If Seattle takes him, that's basically a wash.
- NewYorkNuck

True, but I hate getting nothing for a 6th overall pick. It infuriates me. Just another example of poor management. I’m still have hope that JV can turn his game around.

I don't care who is protected or who is picked on this sh*tty team.
- Marwood

Ok buddy

Ok buddy
- dbot

Lol

Seattle isn’t taking JV.
No need to protect him.
If we can somehow finally trade him , then go for it. But I doubt there would be any takers after this years results.

I’d protect Motte and Lind.
I’d be very surprised if Seattle scoops up Gadjovich after 1 decent year on a fugly Utica team.
- dbot

Again, just can’t stand the thought of pissing away a 6th overall pick when this team desperately needs top shelf drafting to turn its fortunes around.

Again, just can’t stand the thought of pissing away a 6th overall pick when this team desperately needs top shelf drafting to turn its fortunes around.
- bloatedmosquito

I get it.
I was on the JV train until recently.
Last year he seemed to finally put it together.
He needed to keep the momentum going this season and he hasn’t.
He’s run out of excuses.

He’s a write off at this point imo.

🤷‍♂️ I don't watch TV except hockey and NFL and whenever Newcastle is on the telly.
- Makita

Newcastle? Why? You got family from that part of England?

I get it.
I was on the JV train until recently.
Last year he seemed to finally put it together.
He needed to keep the momentum going this season and he hasn’t.
He’s run out of excuses.

He’s a write off at this point imo.
- dbot

Never know. A new coach could turn his career around. Why not in Canuck Blue?

True, but I hate getting nothing for a 6th overall pick. It infuriates me. Just another example of poor management. I’m still have hope that JV can turn his game around.
- bloatedmosquito

It's not exactly "nothing", just not getting another player taken. Which is riiiight next to nothing, though.

JV has been given every opportunity. Time to move on.