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scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Apr 29 @ 2:48 PM ET
From the press release:

The Blackhawks and Bulls will take a phased-in approach to hosting fans. Beginning May 1, the teams will host a few hundred player family members and team-invited guests only until welcoming the general public back to the arena on May 7.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Apr 29 @ 3:13 PM ET
Bring in 25% of the employees, open 25% of the kitchens and stores. Problem solved.
- paulr


Providing 25% of them want to work. You know, getting free money is hard to beat for some people.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Apr 29 @ 3:15 PM ET
Shalunov played game 6 which was the elimantion game. he missed game 5. I saw the video the player had just shot the puck and his head was down and clips his shoulder. I
https://touch.facebook.co...h/?v=458800855427318&_rdr

- kmw4631


The guy had already shot the puck in a windup, you cannot hit him their head or not...
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Apr 29 @ 3:18 PM ET
Providing 25% of them want to work. You know, getting free money is hard to beat for some people.
- powerenforcer


Wow

It continues.

More work = more $

Free money is not paying your fair share of taxes.

mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Apr 29 @ 3:18 PM ET
Providing 25% of them want to work. You know, getting free money is hard to beat for some people.
- powerenforcer


I was at a bar last weekend - I know that is no shock to many - and the service was slow. The bartender said they couldn't get the employees to come back. And not because of Covid fears.

Maybe Rocky will have to get all new beer vendors.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Apr 29 @ 3:26 PM ET
They're over the hill or fing boys playing against men. They get out maneuvered and manhandled because they either suck or are too inexperienced. It's the talent plain and simple. If you want to bash JC that's one thing but to continue to say they should be able to play well is crazy. They're college and AHL players or else over the hill. If a real NHL team can't make them look bad something is really wrong.
- rpeters01
i m not bashing JC the development of young players is very noticeable and progression from the 1st game to now is considerably good just the defensive zone is a work in progress and L.A. hawk said it best talent might be the biggest problem. The young d i think have pretty good yea they make mistakes but thats to be expected. So we will see what happens in the offseason as far as personnel changes. Personally i didn't expect much from this season there has been a lot of surprises and a lot of good going forward so time will tell.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Apr 29 @ 3:29 PM ET
Barry Trotz says the system employed isn't that important. I'll go with him.
- mohel


Ok so its the players. JC system works even though he has never proven it or achieved actual success at any level of hockey as a head coach.

I think it is fair to questions whether JC's system is maximizing the talent of each player, especially the younger guys. Does the system put the younger players in the best position to succeed?
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Apr 29 @ 3:34 PM ET
I was at a bar last weekend - I know that is no shock to many - and the service was slow. The bartender said they couldn't get the employees to come back. And not because of Covid fears.

Maybe Rocky will have to get all new beer vendors.

- mohel


That is exactly my point! Once you taste "free" money, it's hard to work for it.

Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Apr 29 @ 3:36 PM ET
I was at a bar last weekend - I know that is no shock to many - and the service was slow. The bartender said they couldn't get the employees to come back. And not because of Covid fears.

Maybe Rocky will have to get all new beer vendors.

- mohel

We have restaurants closing in my area one day a week, this is to give employees a break from all the overtime(short staff). Not sure how much longer this can go on, and I’ll stop right here.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Apr 29 @ 3:37 PM ET
Ok so its the players. JC system works even though he has never proven it or achieved actual success at any level of hockey as a head coach.

I think it is fair to questions whether JC's system is maximizing the talent of each player, especially the younger guys. Does the system put the younger players in the best position to succeed?

- bhawks2241


Would you rather they use one system until the training wheels come off, and the switch to the type of system that they feel they need to use to win in today's NHL?

bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Apr 29 @ 3:38 PM ET
They're over the hill or fing boys playing against men. They get out maneuvered and manhandled because they either suck or are too inexperienced. It's the talent plain and simple. If you want to bash JC that's one thing but to continue to say they should be able to play well is crazy. They're college and AHL players or else over the hill. If a real NHL team can't make them look bad something is really wrong.
- rpeters01


I still don't see how anyone can say definitively its the talent and not a combination of both but I guess we can only follow one narrative on the board.

I guarantee you if Colliton was let go tomorrow not a single NHL team would offer him a head coaching job.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 29 @ 3:41 PM ET
We have restaurants closing in my area one day a week, this is to give employees a break from all the overtime(short staff). Not sure how much longer this can go on, and I’ll stop right here.
- Angotti


My sister and brother in law visited from the Chicago are and wanted to know why eating out is so expensive. I said well when you have to pay the dishwasher $15/hr. (minimum wage in Santa Monica) what do you think you have to charge to make eggs?

Question: since the servers are now making a "living wage", do I need to tip anymore?
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Apr 29 @ 3:41 PM ET
I still don't see how anyone can say definitively its the talent and not a combination of both but I guess we can only follow one narrative on the board.

I guarantee you if Colliton was let go tomorrow not a single NHL team would offer him a head coaching job.

- bhawks2241


You're not spouting a narrative, though, right?
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Apr 29 @ 3:42 PM ET
My sister and brother in law visited from the Chicago are and wanted to know why eating out is so expensive. I said well when you have to pay the dishwasher $15/hr. (minimum wage in Santa Monica) what do you think you have to charge to make eggs?

Question: since the servers are now making a "living wage", do I need to tip anymore?

- LAHawk


Answer: No.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 29 @ 3:43 PM ET
I still don't see how anyone can say definitively its the talent and not a combination of both but I guess we can only follow one narrative on the board.

I guarantee you if Colliton was let go tomorrow not a single NHL team would offer him a head coaching job.

- bhawks2241


I ask this every time I hear that Colliton has to be fired? Who do you replace him with?
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Apr 29 @ 3:45 PM ET
I ask this every time I hear that Colliton has to be fired? Who do you replace him with?
- LAHawk


Dennis Savard?

bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Apr 29 @ 3:46 PM ET
Would you rather they use one system until the training wheels come off, and the switch to the type of system that they feel they need to use to win in today's NHL?
- mohel


Good point. That was actually my concern too. That is why I'd love to know the similarities between this man to many system and ones run successfully (besides talent).

If the young d-men can have success in this system and they win then its fine with me.

I'm just not sold on JC.

To be fair though, I also don't know how much time he spends on the defensive side of things or if he defers most of that work to Brookbank and Crawford.


bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Apr 29 @ 3:48 PM ET
I ask this every time I hear that Colliton has to be fired? Who do you replace him with?
- LAHawk


I never said he had to be fired. I also don't know. I am not a hockey GM and don't have all day to research potential head coaches. I am just not sold JC.

I can have an opinion about JC without having to list off replacements.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 29 @ 3:49 PM ET
Good point. That was actually my concern too. That is why I'd love to know the similarities between this man to many system and ones run successfully (besides talent).

If the young d-men can have success in this system and they win then its fine with me.

I'm just not sold on JC.

To be fair though, I also don't know how much time he spends on the defensive side of things or if he defers most of that work to Brookbank and Crawford.

- bhawks2241


To be fair look at the Hawks roster of defenseman (today), and look at other teams defenseman in the Central, and tell me whose collection is worse? I will give you Detroit, but then?
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 29 @ 3:53 PM ET
I never said he had to be fired. I also don't know. I am not a hockey GM and don't have all day to research potential head coaches. I am just not sold JC.

I can have an opinion about JC without having to list off replacements.

- bhawks2241


You are stating there are better options out there, but you don't know who they are? So you want to fire him for firing sake, who cares who the new coach is? Do you think if Stan (and Danny Wirtz) doesn't think the rebuild is going as planned, they wouldn't replace him, like they did when Q took over from Savard? Or does Stan have to go too? In which case Danny Wirtz has to go, because after his review of hockey ops., he decided Stan was the guy he wanted for the rebuild.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Apr 29 @ 3:54 PM ET
Ok so its the players. JC system works even though he has never proven it or achieved actual success at any level of hockey as a head coach.

I think it is fair to questions whether JC's system is maximizing the talent of each player, especially the younger guys. Does the system put the younger players in the best position to succeed?

- bhawks2241



JC system is very close to that run by both the Islanders and and the Canes. The main difference is execution. Is part of that execution problem the fault of the coaching staff? Yes. The lion's share is on the players though. Our forwards are very often on the wrong side of the puck. We have D-men pinching at the wrong times, and not able to hold the puck in the zone. There is also a lot of reacting instead of attacking in the D-zone.

There is too much thinking and not enough instinct. It is a function of where this team is on the development curve. They have new guys rotating in almost constantly and there are a ton of mistakes being made either because players are slow, not used to the NHL, indecisive, or just not good enough.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Apr 29 @ 3:56 PM ET
I think he was insinuating that a Zadorov salary over $3M per year would make him unattractive to other teams, not an issue for the Hawks cap.
- Chunk


And I'm insinuating that the Hawks will be able to eat some of Zs salary to trade him next season
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Apr 29 @ 3:56 PM ET
JC system is very close to that run by both the Islanders and and the Canes. The main difference is execution. Is part of that execution problem the fault of the coaching staff? Yes. The lion's share is on the players though. Our forwards are very often on the wrong side of the puck. We have D-men pinching at the wrong times, and not able to hold the puck in the zone. There is also a lot of reacting instead of attacking in the D-zone.

There is too much thinking and not enough instinct. It is a function of where this team is on the development curve. They have new guys rotating in almost constantly and there are a ton of mistakes being made either because players are slow, not used to the NHL, indecisive, or just not good enough.

- Chunk


Makes sense. Thanks for actually answering my question too.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Apr 29 @ 3:59 PM ET
You are stating there are better options out there, but you don't know who they are? So you want to fire him for firing sake, who cares who the new coach is? Do you think if Stan (and Danny Wirtz) doesn't think the rebuild is going as planned, they wouldn't replace him, like they did when Q took over from Savard? Or does Stan have to go too? In which case Danny Wirtz has to go, because after his review of hockey ops., he decided Stan was the guy he wanted for the rebuild.
- LAHawk


I never said fire JC. I don't know what else to tell you man. I am not sold on him as a head coach.

I also don't think another NHL team would hire him as head coach IF the Hawks let him go.

Got it though. Don't have an opinion unless it fits what a few poster on here want or you will be attacked.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 29 @ 3:59 PM ET
And I'm insinuating that the Hawks will be able to eat some of Zs salary to trade him next season
- BetweenTheDots


Why even sign him to retain salary, Best to just let him go UFA.
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