I spend last Sunday watching clips of our new arrivals and if Brogstrom can put together what he did in college he will be a monster.
- SaskHawkFan

Don't you think going to the AHL maybe only 20 gp could prove beneficial for Borgstrom. I realize he has NHL experience. Yet returning to the fastest league [NHL] and a rougher style of play in the AHL than Sweden, would be a transition he could use as he jumps back in this saddle! I almost feel like there could be as asterisk attached to the comparison in the amount of physical play comparing Sweden to the aHL. Sweden may have a fair amount of rough play but the AHL probably has a higher amount of physical play]

Is that so? My understanding is that every team has to expose at least 2 F, 1 D and 1 G who meet requirements. But that does not say anything about Borgstrom et al being exempt when they don’t, they are simply exposed as well.

- stonefire[quote=stonefire]Is that so? My understanding is that every team has to expose at least 2 F, 1 D and 1 G who meet requirements. But that does not say anything about Borgstrom et al being exempt when they don’t, they are simply exposed as well.

Is that so? My understanding is that every team has to expose at least 2 F, 1 D and 1 G who meet requirements. But that does not say anything about Borgstrom et al being exempt when they don’t, they are simply exposed as well.
- stonefire[quote=stonefire]Is that so? My understanding is that every team has to expose at least 2 F, 1 D and 1 G who meet requirements. But that does not say anything about Borgstrom et al being exempt when they don’t, they are simply exposed as well.

I am not going to debate Nikki Borgström's elligibility but more I will debate the fact that there are already. plenty of Hawk REGULARS or kids who saw action this season who DO NOT REQUIRE being "protected" due to their NOT filling the games played requirements.

I am also curious as to whether the hawks added a slip through the cracks guy who could help...

They will take who they believe is the best player available (or position player available) from each team. They can't take all cheap because they still need to get to the $61 mil. cap (why Fleury was perfect for Vegas, and helped Pittsburgh get out of cap hell and they had a new #1 in Murray).

I don't think the GM's are going to make the same mistake as last time (like when Tallon basically gave the Knights Marsechaullt and Smith) in order for the Knights not to take someone else. As Stan said it is only one player. I doubt Kampf is picked, I doubt Zadorov is picked because then the Kraken will have contract negotiations to contend with. My guess it is Da Hann, one more year at $4.5 mil./ if he lasts until the TDL, the Kraken can flip him.
- LAHawk

Yeah, I agree with you...no matter that the Seattle press is already billing the expansion draft as a way to apply pressure and "extort"more from teams, I think that most teams are going to say, "No, we're good moving on, take who you want."

Teams worried about their upcoming season and lost on these side deals.

Some established clubs traded young defenders elsewhere saved others and they didn't work out.
Getting extra payments in the from of almost developed or almost veteran players like Vegas did, in Alex Tuch, Jonathan Marchessault, additional FIRST ROUND picks and especially that old Pittsburg goalie helped along with nice blend of coaching, $s spent on veterans (Stone, Pacioretty) and general good fortune I REALY doin't think the Kraken will be racking...

I'm not clear on the concept of exposed players that are RFA/UFA at the end of this season.

Example: Gaudette is a RFA at the end of this season. Are the Hawks required to have him under contract or have submitted a QO in order to expose him?

What about Hinostoza? He's a UFA when the season is done?

I thought exposed players had to be under contract.
- Rota's Rooter

Seattle can select unprotected RFA's or an UFA from a team for that matter. Technically that RFA or UFA is still the team's property until his contract expires at the end of the league year which is about a week after the expansion draft. BUT, Seattle has a 2 to 3 day window to negotiate with an unprotected RFA or an UFA just before the draft. If they come to an agreement with that player, he becomes Seattle's selection from that team.

Example - Hawks don't protect RFA Zadorov. Seattle negotiates an extension with him. Seattle makes him the selection from Chicago. Hawks don't lose anybody else. Also works if for some reason Seattle wants to sign UFA Hinostroza instead. He becomes Seattle's Chicago selection and Hawks lose no one else.

Don't you think going to the AHL maybe only 20 gp could provine beneficial fir Borgstrom. I realize he has NHL experience. Yet returning to the fastest league
- jhawk59[NHL] and a rougher style of play in the AHL than Swede, would be a transition he could use as he jumps back in this saddle! I almost feel like there could be as asterisk attached to the comparison in the amount of physical play comparing Sweden to the aHL. Sweden may have a fair amount of rough play but the AHL probably has a higher level

no one is handing Reichel, Borgström or any hawk prospect an NHL seat unless there is enough to warrant it.

It seems under this years system of up and down farm team use that it will continue as a tool to develop players.

For some reason I feel that more than one GM has already worked out understanding of guys they will leave unprotected talked to Seattle and was given an answer there is interest with out much additional consideration for the established clubs.

I am someone who lived through the Expansion draft of six new teams where they basically got little and many of the names of the established clubs players were foreign to most fans, because the new teams were desperate for a couple younger throw-ins who might play some day.

Hagel does it, Soderberg did it, Dach should do it, but he right now plays on the perimeter, which is strange because on the rush he is willing to take a hit on the boards. Kubalik has fallen in love with his shot again so sits outside waiting for the one timer, he could be a crease crasher. Carpenter, Kampf are a waste offensively.
- LAHawk

Hey LA. We were talking about defensively that the Hawks have a horrible habit of leaving opponents wide open in the slot or right in front of the goalie (see goals 2, 4 and 5 for NSH last game). Sure, some are just unfortunate (Murphy's helmet and all), but it has happened a ton this year.

Seattle can select unprotected RFA's or an UFA from a team for that matter. Technically that RFA or UFA is still the team's property until his contract expires at the end of the league year which is about a week after the expansion draft. BUT, Seattle has a 2 to 3 day window to negotiate with an unprotected RFA or an UFA just before the draft. If they come to an agreement with that player, he becomes Seattle's selection from that team.

Example - Hawks don't protect RFA Zadorov. Seattle negotiates an extension with him. Seattle makes him the selection from Chicago. Hawks don't lose anybody else. Also works if for some reason Seattle wants to sign UFA Hinostroza instead. He becomes Seattle's Chicago selection and Hawks lose no one else.
- boilermaker100

Considering he can only lose 1 player to Seattle, if Bowman made up a list of current Hawk players he was desperate not to lose, I think that list would be extremely short.

Seattle can select unprotected RFA's or an UFA from a team for that matter. Technically that RFA or UFA is still the team's property until his contract expires at the end of the league year which is about a week after the expansion draft. BUT, Seattle has a 2 to 3 day window to negotiate with an unprotected RFA or an UFA just before the draft. If they come to an agreement with that player, he becomes Seattle's selection from that team.

Example - Hawks don't protect RFA Zadorov. Seattle negotiates an extension with him. Seattle makes him the selection from Chicago. Hawks don't lose anybody else. Also works if for some reason Seattle wants to sign UFA Hinostroza instead. He becomes Seattle's Chicago selection and Hawks lose no one else.
- boilermaker100

Thanks. That makes sense.

They essentially pushed back the end of the league year along with everything else.

For some reason I still had July 1 stuck in my head.

Watched college clips on him too. Some of those stick handling moves he was making were sick.
- HawkintheD

i really liked his use of his stick to create seperation. and seems to enjoy going to the net. nice pick up if he works out

Don't you think going to the AHL maybe only 20 gp could provine beneficial fir Borgstrom. I realize he has NHL experience. Yet returning to the fastest league
- jhawk59[NHL] and a rougher style of play in the AHL than Swede, would be a transition he could use as he jumps back in this saddle! I almost feel like there could be as asterisk attached to the comparison in the amount of physical play comparing Sweden to the aHL. Sweden may have a fair amount of rough play but the AHL probably has a higher level

I think hes in Sweden due to not having a contract.

Borgström is playing in Finland for IFK. He has had an assist in their both PO games so far. They lead 2-0 in the quarterfinals. Best of 5 because of covid.

Borgström is playing in Finland for IFK. He has had an assist in their both PO games so far. They lead 2-0 in the quarterfinals. Best of 5 because of covid.
- FeatheredFinn

Does the risk rise to an unacceptable level for games six and seven?

I think hes in Sweden due to not having a contract.
- SaskHawkFan

boy did i mess that up Finland due to contract

Does the risk rise to an unacceptable level for games six and seven?
- mohel

I know...I guess they think so. They also think that it is some how smart to play with a full shield or an aquarium as we call them. But...it is what it is. Strange times and even stranger decisions.

Does the risk rise to an unacceptable level for games six and seven?
- mohel

I'm sure some "expert" said that!

I know...I guess they think so. They also think that it is some how smart to play with a full shield or an aquarium as we call them. But...it is what it is. Strange times and even stranger decisions.

- FeatheredFinn

It is a world wide pandemic!

At least they are playing.

It is a world wide pandemic!

At least they are playing.
- mohel

As much as I despise Twitter, check out Ben Pope’s feed. Lehner went off a bit (and rightfully so) about the league saying if the players get the vaccine they would lift restrictions to get back to normal a bit. Lehner leaned on the detriments to mental health (of everyone) as a reason why he was mad at the league for going back on it.

I spend last Sunday watching clips of our new arrivals and if Brogstrom can put together what he did in college he will be a monster.
- SaskHawkFan

Apparently his nickname in college on the team was "Le Artiste" because of his moves lol

As much as I despise Twitter, check out Ben Pope’s feed. Lehner went off a bit (and rightfully so) about the league saying if the players get the vaccine they would lift restrictions to get back to normal a bit. Lehner leaned on the detriments to mental health (of everyone) as a reason why he was mad at the league for going back on it.
- Chunk

Well, to be fair to the league.....The Man said for months life would return to normal once the vaccine arrived. Now The Man says, "not so fast Kawalski", you still need to mask up, social distance, etc.... So, maybe the league was just going by what they heard from The Man?

For those that say Nylander is worthless and non-redeemable

Nylander’s 0.4 points per game pace last season would put him right behind Suter in points this year. He has better points pace than kurashev and hagel.

As much as I despise Twitter, check out Ben Pope’s feed. Lehner went off a bit (and rightfully so) about the league saying if the players get the vaccine they would lift restrictions to get back to normal a bit. Lehner leaned on the detriments to mental health (of everyone) as a reason why he was mad at the league for going back on it.
- Chunk

Oh poor baby, i really feel sorry for him. (frank)ing grow up!

For those that say Nylander is worthless and non-redeemable

Nylander’s 0.4 points per game pace last season would put him right behind Suter in points this year. He has better points pace than kurashev and hagel.
- LAHawk

I actually see him being a Schmaltz kind of forward, hopefully he has the courage to battle along the boards unlike Nick.

Hogs game canceled tonight to.

Well, to be fair to the league.....The Man said for months life would return to normal once the vaccine arrived. Now The Man says, "not so fast Kawalski", you still need to mask up, social distance, etc.... So, maybe the league was just going by what they heard from The Man?
- mohel

Unfortunately the whole premise of science isn’t to prove itself right but to prove itself wrong. There hasn’t been enough study into the virus to determine all its effects let alone if the vaccine would prevent transmission. My guess is the scientists haven’t done sufficient studies and simply don’t know. The good thing for government and businesses is they can throw the scientists Under the bus and pass off all responsibility to them.