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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 21 @ 11:30 AM ET
Kessel was retained through a trade with much more term left
- obie


And actual stats to his name to justify a return.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 21 @ 11:30 AM ET
If you think about it and extrapolate it honestly you'll probably find it makes sense, regardless of the percentage on it. I just vividly remember that stat from a few different sales and marketing books
- Takemedrunkimhome


I think 98% might be an exaggeration, but yeah I would expect a very high number, people aren't completely rational very often lol
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Apr 21 @ 11:32 AM ET
I wouldn't buy him out.

Drouin, when playing his best, can help this team.

But history seems to show us that when the guy starts playing terribly.

There's no bottom at the end of that barrell. He's hurting the team right now, killing offensive plays, lapses defensively and no intensity whatsoever.

Let him sit, do some video, heal injuries, whatever.

He can't continue down this path and neither can we.

- Scabeh

Completely agree. Coach him the (frank) up. Don't be afraid to be a little tough on him. Simply my point is buying him out would be silly for a number of reasons.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Apr 21 @ 11:34 AM ET
The lesson here is go to the police station, not wawa. Wawa will be there after, of this I am almost certain
- Takemedrunkimhome

sometimes you just need a sizzli.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Apr 21 @ 11:36 AM ET
sometimes you just need a sizzli.
- kicksave856

Emotional decisions vs rational decisions I guess
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Apr 21 @ 11:37 AM ET
Buying him out would be an emotional reaction that stands in the face of reason. There's a spot for him in the NHL, if not at his full salary at some point of retention to get a return, in which case the hit is only two years and even at 50% is only $2.75, with an asset return. People always say don't turn so and so into a whipping boy and then things go south and so and so becomes a whipping boy. Emotional decisions lead to ruin, rational thought should always rule the day. (Science has proven the average person makes 98% of their decisions based on emotions rather than rational thoughts - don't be like these people)
- Takemedrunkimhome


my point was more about the cap space. if you need that cap space. but you're right about trading him and retaining salary, even though you pay more over those 2 years. either way, he's never going to amount to anything here because he's not a core guy, he's a complementary guy to high-end players, and he's not surrounded by high-end players here. i see him kind of like a reverse John LeClair. if you trade him to Boston and put him on a line with Pastrnak he'll notch 65 assists.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Apr 21 @ 11:42 AM ET
my point was more about the cap space. if you need that cap space. but you're right about trading him and retaining salary, even though you pay more over those 2 years. either way, he's never going to amount to anything here because he's not a core guy, he's a complementary guy to high-end players, and he's not surrounded by high-end players here. i see him kind of like a reverse John LeClair. if you trade him to Boston and put him on a line with Pastrnak he'll notch 65 assists.
- DoubleDown

Fair assessment, I like the reverse LeClair point
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 21 @ 11:42 AM ET
Emotional decisions vs rational decisions I guess
- Takemedrunkimhome


Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 21 @ 11:48 AM ET
my point was more about the cap space. if you need that cap space. but you're right about trading him and retaining salary, even though you pay more over those 2 years. either way, he's never going to amount to anything here because he's not a core guy, he's a complementary guy to high-end players, and he's not surrounded by high-end players here. i see him kind of like a reverse John LeClair. if you trade him to Boston and put him on a line with Pastrnak he'll notch 65 assists.
- DoubleDown


so what you're basically saying is the habs are currently a complimentary team, since they don't really have any high-end talent...
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Apr 21 @ 11:49 AM ET
Emotional decisions vs rational decisions I guess
- Takemedrunkimhome

i 98% just ate 2 sizzli burritos.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Apr 21 @ 11:53 AM ET
i 98% just ate 2 sizzli burritos.
- kicksave856

Our eating decisions generally are pretty emotional
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Apr 21 @ 11:54 AM ET
so what you're basically saying is the habs are currently a complimentary team, since they don't really have any high-end talent...
- Pat1993


Toffoli, Anderson, Gallagher, Tatar are not high end talent, yet they still manage to be very effective on a team that clearly lacks high end talent, what's Drouin excuse again? Oh yea, not enough high end talent around him...
AGalchenyuk27
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Apr 21 @ 11:58 AM ET
The summer forecast for 2021 in Canada has dropped and there's going to be heat across the country during the season with some provinces enjoying "sizzling" and "sweltering" warmth.

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 21 @ 11:58 AM ET
The summer forecast for 2021 in Canada has dropped and there's going to be heat across the country during the season with some provinces enjoying "sizzling" and "sweltering" warmth.


- AGalchenyuk27


Guess buying a pool wasn't a bad idea after all....
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 21 @ 12:00 PM ET
The summer forecast for 2021 in Canada has dropped and there's going to be heat across the country during the season with some provinces enjoying "sizzling" and "sweltering" warmth.


- AGalchenyuk27



kick:


kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Apr 21 @ 12:01 PM ET
The summer forecast for 2021 in Canada has dropped and there's going to be heat across the country during the season with some provinces enjoying "sizzling" and "sweltering" warmth.


- AGalchenyuk27

ban this person, braidan.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Apr 21 @ 12:01 PM ET
kick:



- Pat1993

Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 21 @ 12:03 PM ET

- kicksave856



DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Apr 21 @ 12:03 PM ET
Toffoli, Anderson, Gallagher, Tatar are not high end talent, yet they still manage to be very effective on a team that clearly lacks high end talent, what's Drouin excuse again? Oh yea, not enough high end talent around him...
- obie


lol what? Anderson has fewer points than Drouin, and he and Toffoli have cooled way off since their hot start. Tatar is on a 20-goal pace. i wouldn't exactly call these players "very effective" these days.

as for Gallagher.. completely different type of player who is just wired differently.


Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 21 @ 12:05 PM ET
Lindgren joins the team out west.

Guess we can rule out a start for Primeau.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 21 @ 12:06 PM ET
Lindgren joins the team out west.

Guess we can rule out a start for Primeau.

- Scabeh


I'm pretty sure it was confirmed Primeau would be getting a start against Calgary...
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 21 @ 12:09 PM ET
Lindgren joins the team out west.

Guess we can rule out a start for Primeau.

- Scabeh

nah, they need a 3rd netminder in case of injuries.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 21 @ 12:09 PM ET
I'm pretty sure it was confirmed Primeau would be getting a start against Calgary...
- Pat1993

not confirmed, roomered
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 21 @ 12:11 PM ET
not confirmed, roomered
- Symba007



didn't Ducharme confirm Primeau's start? why the (frank) would they go with Lindgren, tabarnak
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 21 @ 12:13 PM ET
nah, they need a 3rd netminder in case of injuries.
- Symba007


I see.

I mean, Allen is great but even he can't be optimal with 2 games in 24h.
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