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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 17 @ 7:56 PM ET
we need a bohm
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 17 @ 8:12 PM ET
March 9, 2020:





EDIT: Story here
https://www.nbcsports.com...s-second-consecutive-week

- PT21
Thank you! Where'd the other dude go? He seems to have magically disappeared.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 17 @ 8:15 PM ET
we need a bohm
- 2Real
Really don't think anyone cares about the Sillies right now. I mean, this is a hockey thread and they are on like game number whatever on a 450,000 game season.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 17 @ 8:55 PM ET
Give buff some credit, they’re playing teams hard wo jack etc. flyers take notice
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 17 @ 8:57 PM ET
WIn and keep playoff hopes alive!

Who am I kidding? They are gonna get smoked again!

- corduroy


Smoked like a Philly blunt

The vets could learn a lesson or 12 from WaWa Allison
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 17 @ 8:58 PM ET
Really don't think anyone cares about the Sillies right now. I mean, this is a hockey thread and they are on like game number whatever on a 450,000 game season.

- Phillywhiteout

ok devils fan
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 17 @ 8:58 PM ET
I think we win this game if Lyon isn’t in net.
- SuperSchennBros



LOL -- you think Elliot or Hart would of stopped OVs goals?
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 17 @ 9:04 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 4/17/21 vs. WSH
- bmeltzer


It seems that the Flyers got Jimmy Hayes instead of Kevin Hayes
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 17 @ 9:12 PM ET
ok devils fan
- 2Real
I have no idea how to respond to that. Since I have always hated the wienerhead Devils.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 17 @ 9:19 PM ET
Thank you! Where'd the other dude go? He seems to have magically disappeared.

- Phillywhiteout

He likely just forgot. I don't blame him. Its so unusual an event that it probably slipped from the mind after it happened.
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Apr 17 @ 9:22 PM ET
"Incorrectly"
- PT21


That is correct! Sorry the Flyers suck so all I have left are my Dad jokes!
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 17 @ 9:54 PM ET
not sure what's worse this askren paul fight or the flyers play right now
RICK DERRIS
Location: PA
Joined: 04.15.2021

Apr 17 @ 10:05 PM ET
not sure what's worse this askren paul fight or the flyers play right now
- 2Real

i hope theyre paying you to watch it
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 17 @ 10:20 PM ET
i hope theyre paying you to watch it
- RICK DERRIS

i just want to see paul get (frank)ed up by askren
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Apr 17 @ 10:26 PM ET
Congratulations to Wade Allison for scoring his first NHL goal. That is all 😔
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Apr 17 @ 10:49 PM ET

Has anyone heard how long Jackson Cates has to remain in Covid quarantine to join the team? I see there are actually a few days off after tomorrow’s game so the Flyers may get to practice. Shocking! Also any chance Noah joins? Too bad there isn’t 2 for 1 brother signing deals.

xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 17 @ 10:57 PM ET
The Flyers were one game away from the final 4 last year, so what are you talking about?
- jd250


In a series we had no business being in. Isles should have easily swept us. Chara knew where he was going which is why he signed with WSH.

Your evidence is strictly based on Chara not being here. You dont know that Fletcher didnt look at him, you dont know if he reached out and inquired, you dont know if Chara even wanted to come here and biggest of all you ignore the fact Chara didnt sign until December 30th if my research is correct. Thats well beyond the FA opening day in OCT. The reason why he waited so long was he was contemplating retiring. The only reason he didnt sign with Boston is because Sweeny and Chara couldnt agree on his role on the team.

This isnt a video game where you automatically can land any player you want.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 17 @ 11:39 PM ET
Congratulations to Wade Allison for scoring his first NHL goal. That is all 😔
- dubc55


Anyone you like in the draft? I expect Flyers to be picking #13 or so....
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 18 @ 3:17 AM ET
Anyone you like in the draft? I expect Flyers to be picking #13 or so....
- PT21


Personally my current wants for the Flyers (Need to be top 10 most likely at least): Chaz Lucius, Dylan Guenther, Kent Johnson

Who I think the Flyers target (11-16 range): Corson Ceulemans, Carson Lambos, Cole Sillinger
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 18 @ 6:33 AM ET
Tye mcginn came up with a similar type of game. Scored some goals

We shall see

- Just5


Wade Allison is no Tye McGinn and he is no Al Hill. Allison's issue has always been injuries. He'd have turned pro after his sophomore season at WM, most likely, but he tore his ACL midway through what was a breakout season. It took him 18 months to get back to 100%. He was a senior by that point. Then he had unrelated injury issues
before closing out his college career with a rush.

In camp with the Flyers this year, he had an ankle issue that caused him to be shut down on Day 2. Had surgery that forced him to miss the start of the AHL season. Once he actually did get on the ice, he started scoring immediately.

With the Flyers, because they have him netfront on the power play, he hasn't gotten to use his best weapon yet: he has a high-grade one-timer from his off-wing or the middle of the slot.

McGinn didn't have Allison's hands. He did play some net-front and could knock in some rebounds and deflections. He couldn't score from distance, though. Allison can.

Al Hill was a decent 4th line player who worked his tail off, but he'd never been a big goal scorer. He had one magical, history-making night that just so happened to be his NHL debut.

Allison is a powerful skater and he hustles. He also has some things in his game that he can improve. With the Phantoms, he sometimes tried to force plays that weren't there, and sometimes in dangerous areas. He's not a budding young Selke-like winger in his own zone but you can say that of most power forwards.

Allison has a feisty side to his game sometimes. That hasn't come to the forefront yet but it eventually will.

The thing with McGinn is that he had an eye injury in a fight. When he came back, he wasn't nearly as physical as he was before. He was less effective. With Allison, if he lost other parts of his game, he could still contribute something if he just parked himself in the slot to be fed one-timers.

Watch for Tyson Foerster over the next few years, too. He has a more diverse and dynamic offensive arsenal than Allison and just as heavy of a shot. He just needs to continue working on his skating and adding power. The hands and ice vision aspects are first-line caliber if he maxes his potential. Before the Phantoms had their last four games postponed due to Covid-related issues, Foerster was on a tear. He's just turned 19 and was starting to take over games at the AHL level.

Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Apr 18 @ 6:54 AM ET
Ditto what Bill wrote.
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Apr 18 @ 6:54 AM ET
not sure what's worse this askren paul fight or the flyers play right now
- 2Real

i hope theyre paying you to watch it
- RICK DERRIS

i just want to see paul get (frank)ed up by askren

- 2Real


DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Apr 18 @ 7:00 AM ET
Maybe we should offer sheet Svechnikov or Tkachuk.

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 18 @ 7:32 AM ET
It seems that the Flyers got Jimmy Hayes instead of Kevin Hayes
- corduroy


Rangers fans loving the egg on fletchys face
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 18 @ 7:58 AM ET
Wade Allison is no Tye McGinn and he is no Al Hill. Allison's issue has always been injuries. He'd have turned pro after his sophomore season at WM, most likely, but he tore his ACL midway through what was a breakout season. It took him 18 months to get back to 100%. He was a senior by that point. Then he had unrelated injury issues
before closing out his college career with a rush.

In camp with the Flyers this year, he had an ankle issue that caused him to be shut down on Day 2. Had surgery that forced him to miss the start of the AHL season. Once he actually did get on the ice, he started scoring immediately.

With the Flyers, because they have him netfront on the power play, he hasn't gotten to use his best weapon yet: he has a high-grade one-timer from his off-wing or the middle of the slot.

McGinn didn't have Allison's hands. He did play some net-front and could knock in some rebounds and deflections. He couldn't score from distance, though. Allison can.

Al Hill was a decent 4th line player who worked his tail off, but he'd never been a big goal scorer. He had one magical, history-making night that just so happened to be his NHL debut.

Allison is a powerful skater and he hustles. He also has some things in his game that he can improve. With the Phantoms, he sometimes tried to force plays that weren't there, and sometimes in dangerous areas. He's not a budding young Selke-like winger in his own zone but you can say that of most power forwards.

Allison has a feisty side to his game sometimes. That hasn't come to the forefront yet but it eventually will.

The thing with McGinn is that he had an eye injury in a fight. When he came back, he wasn't nearly as physical as he was before. He was less effective. With Allison, if he lost other parts of his game, he could still contribute something if he just parked himself in the slot to be fed one-timers.

Watch for Tyson Foerster over the next few years, too. He has a more diverse and dynamic offensive arsenal than Allison and just as heavy of a shot. He just needs to continue working on his skating and adding power. The hands and ice vision aspects are first-line caliber if he maxes his potential. Before the Phantoms had their last four games postponed due to Covid-related issues, Foerster was on a tear. He's just turned 19 and was starting to take over games at the AHL level.

- bmeltzer


I’ve seen highlights from phantoms games. He def has the one timer like a Hartnell did. It would just have to be fed from jake’s side. If he can be feisty and a bit physical maybe we have a hartnell clone here.
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