Lol leave it to me to say sign Getzlaf cause hes a free agent and then trade for him.

Is Chytil on an upswing? I dont think so. I think as fans some people put this veil over their eyes when it comes to talking about Chytil.

We trade Chytil for a future 1st round pick or something and call it a day.

Getzlaf is a stop gap until we end up in a situation where we have to decide the future of the defense in 3 years.
- aecliptic

Is Chytil on the upswing? Year 1: 0.31ppg; Year 2: 0.38ppg; Year 3: 0.55ppg.

I'd say that's on the upswing.

He's also 21, outscoring the 36 year old Getzlaf this year in less games played, 3 minutes less TOI per game and no PP time.

I'm struggling to see how this is an upgrade outside of the faceoff dot.

Admittedly I am a fan of Chytil and think he unfairly gets lumped in with the veterans when it comes to gauging production rather than the kids, who always get a pass because "they're still learning." So is he and I think he's coming along nicely. Much easier to play winger in the NHL than be a center lining up against Crosby, Malkin, Giroux, Backstrom, Barzal, etc. in this division. He's also playing with two teenagers who are still learning also. It's not like they put him with Panarin, Kreider, Buch or any productive, established winger.

This team is rolling and seem to have great chemistry, I'm not sure I'd be so quick to break that up, despite the fun of playing armchair GM.

Is Chytil on the upswing? Year 1: 0.31ppg; Year 2: 0.38ppg; Year 3: 0.55ppg.

I'd say that's on the upswing.

He's also 21, outscoring the 36 year old Getzlaf this year in less games played, 3 minutes less TOI per game and no PP time.

I'm struggling to see how this is an upgrade outside of the faceoff dot.

Admittedly I am a fan of Chytil and think he unfairly gets lumped in with the veterans when it comes to gauging production rather than the kids, who always get a pass because "they're still learning." So is he and I think he's coming along nicely. Much easier to play winger in the NHL than be a center lining up against Crosby, Malkin, Giroux, Backstrom, Barzal, etc. in this division. He's also playing with two teenagers who are still learning also. It's not like they put him with Panarin, Kreider, Buch or any productive, established winger.

This team is rolling and seem to have great chemistry, I'm not sure I'd be so quick to break that up, despite the fun of playing armchair GM.
- SkjeiStadium

Yeah, I'm not feeling Getzlaf instead of Chytil. If we are going to get rid of him, it isn't a decision I'd take lightly, and I'd want an obvious upgrade. Getzlaf ain't it

this was after Rangers 2020 draft

https://twitter.com/Davey...tatus/1322696046808571904

Yeah, I'm not feeling Getzlaf instead of Chytil. If we are going to get rid of him, it isn't a decision I'd take lightly, and I'd want an obvious upgrade. Getzlaf ain't it
- 2sticks1puck

Agreed. I don't think Chytil is untradeable, but he's clearly improving. What if we traded Buch 2 years ago after his 3rd year when he was scoring around 0.5ppg? The front office would look like fools now. Buch said it this weekend after his big game, it takes time to develop in this league. Not only skill wise but physically and mentally.

I feel like a lot of these fans would like to trade Chytil for a pick or something, and then when that late 1st, early 2nd takes time to develop, they will go through the same process with them. Our one area of weakness is center, it's probably in our best interest not to trade the only young center with pedigree we have in our organization.

Agreed. I don't think Chytil is untradeable, but he's clearly improving. What if we traded Buch 2 years ago after his 3rd year when he was scoring around 0.5ppg? The front office would look like fools now. Buch said it this weekend after his big game, it takes time to develop in this league. Not only skill wise but physically and mentally.

I feel like a lot of these fans would like to trade Chytil for a pick or something, and then when that late 1st, early 2nd takes time to develop, they will go through the same process with them. Our one area of weakness is center, it's probably in our best interest not to trade the only young center with pedigree we have in our organization.
- SkjeiStadium

I don't see a lot of people down on Chytil at all, this is pretty much a rarity

I don't see a lot of people down on Chytil at all, this is pretty much a rarity
- jimbro83

Maybe it's just the outspoken minority here. Like I said, for the right deal I'd do it, but I wouldn't be actively looking for a replacement

Maybe it's just the outspoken minority here. Like I said, for the right deal I'd do it, but I wouldn't be actively looking for a replacement
- SkjeiStadium

I'm in the middle on Chytil, I do have doubts he is a long term center, but on the other hand I do believe he has the skill and size to become every bit of what Buchnevich has become

I'd deal him in the right deal, but no way am I interested in trading him away for a pick like we did Skjei

I don't see a lot of people down on Chytil at all, this is pretty much a rarity
- jimbro83

He's that rare bust that plays almost 200 NHL games before his 22nd birthday.

He's that rare bust that plays almost 200 NHL games before his 22nd birthday.
- Tonybere

Chytil has played 70 more games than Kakko. This idea that Chytil has had all this time to become a center is beyond ridiculous. I'm sticking with my boy Chytil. He is statistically on the upswing and I love that kid line.

Ohh and Kravtsov is (frank)ing insane. What a difference a year makes.

He's that rare bust that plays almost 200 NHL games before his 22nd birthday.
- Tonybere

Chytil's 2 biggest areas of needed improvement are faceoffs, which I still believe can be learned, and is not genetic, and keeping his head up when he carries the puck into the zone, looking for his wingers instead of being head down trying to beat 2 defenders. I believe he can make those improvements, he's only 21, and he now has 2 legit wingers.

Chytil's 2 biggest areas of needed improvement are faceoffs, which I still believe can be learned, and is not genetic, and keeping his head up when he carries the puck into the zone, looking for his wingers instead of being head down trying to beat 2 defenders. I believe he can make those improvements, he's only 21, and he now has 2 legit wingers.
- ELew11

This x 72.

This x 72.
- Tonybere

- mdw7413

Chytil isnt an untouchable by any means, but he may also get a very reasonable two year bridge this summer that makes him very valuable for the Rangers to still keep around

I believe winning faceoffs is incredibly important, but the rankings are very misleading. We are dead last at 44.7% First place is 55.6%

So if we won just one more out of every 10 we would be right near the top, one more out of every 20 and we would be middle of the pack. Doesn’t sound that insurmountable

This is what Chytil hype looks like on this board.

1st game: negligible, 2 turnovers
2nd game: gives up turn over in own zone leading to a goal against.
3rd game: negligible, -1, 3 turnovers
4th game: negligible, 3 turnovers
5th game: makes a nifty pass for a score.

Rangers fan boiz: OMG SEE I TOLD YOU! This kid is legit!

As long as he drops a quarter in your slot matchine once every couple of weeks he will keep you people dangling on the string.

Chytil's 2 biggest areas of needed improvement are faceoffs, which I still believe can be learned, and is not genetic, and keeping his head up when he carries the puck into the zone, looking for his wingers instead of being head down trying to beat 2 defenders. I believe he can make those improvements, he's only 21, and he now has 2 legit wingers.
- ELew11

Agreed. I saw the stat the other day that Chytil is ranked 30th in the entire league in points per 60 even-strength minutes.

https://www.quanthockey.c...21-nhl-players-stats.html

So you want to keep Getzlaf for not just one year but three????

For years we all complained how the Rangers never give the kids time to develop and now you want to sign Getzlaf and give away a 21yo Chytil????

God I love this board!!
- Brukie

Would be 2 yrs on Getzlaf, the 3rd year would be on the kids to step in.

As far as Im concerned Chytil is NOT A CENTER. Hes a winger that is playing center. Hes the worst faceoff guy in the league that plays center full time. Hes easily pushed off the puck. Doesnt handle pressure on the ice very well. He doesnt play with his head up to see the ice and the players around him. He will always look to shoot first for better or worse.

There are plenty of other 20/21 year olds far more suited to be playing that position than Chytil.

This is what Chytil hype looks like on this board.

1st game: negligible, 2 turnovers
2nd game: gives up turn over in own zone leading to a goal against.
3rd game: negligible, -1, 3 turnovers
4th game: negligible, 3 turnovers
5th game: makes a nifty pass for a score.

Rangers fan boiz: OMG SEE I TOLD YOU! This kid is legit!

As long as he drops a quarter in your slot matchine once every couple of weeks he will keep you people dangling on the string.
- aecliptic

You dropping some knowledge, rationale and facts on people. How dare you.

I would love to steal Andrew Copp from Winnipeg and trade Chytil.

This is what Chytil hype looks like on this board.

1st game: negligible, 2 turnovers
2nd game: gives up turn over in own zone leading to a goal against.
3rd game: negligible, -1, 3 turnovers
4th game: negligible, 3 turnovers
5th game: makes a nifty pass for a score.

Rangers fan boiz: OMG SEE I TOLD YOU! This kid is legit!

As long as he drops a quarter in your slot matchine once every couple of weeks he will keep you people dangling on the string.
- aecliptic

See my post regarding his points per 60. Acting like he's averaging 1 assist per 5 games is just wrong.

In terms of turnovers, he averages 2.1 giveaways per 60. Second worse on the team next to Buchnevich (are you complaining about Buch's turnovers?) He also averages 2.91 takeaways per 60. Second best on the team next to Kakko. He's averaging more takeaways than giveaways by a decent margin.

You don't like Chytil which is fine and you're entitled to your opinion, but the stats don't back up your argument, which just shows that you watch him through a biased lens. The people that are arguing in his favor, myself included, have a reason for it that isn't "RaNgErs FaNbOys LoL"

Again, a link for the giveaways/takeaways per 60 (btw, Kakko's numbers on this are crazy good)

http://naturalstattrick.c...ines=single&draftteam=ALL

His contract would have to be similar to a Thornton contract if he was to sign here
- nyrangers2

And he’s trash in Toronto

You dropping some knowledge, rationale and facts on people. How dare you.

I would love to steal Andrew Copp from Winnipeg and trade Chytil.
- NYRCeph

Those arent actual game numbers, but thats essentially a summary of what it looks like. It will be 3 games or so of people critiquing Chytils play, then he drops a dime in the machine after a string of soft games and people forget about them.

See my post regarding his points per 60. Acting like he's averaging 1 assist per 5 games is just wrong.

In terms of turnovers, he averages 2.1 giveaways per 60. Second worse on the team next to Buchnevich (are you complaining about Buch's turnovers?) He also averages 2.91 takeaways per 60. Second best on the team next to Kakko. He's averaging more takeaways than giveaways by a decent margin.

You don't like Chytil which is fine and you're entitled to your opinion, but the stats don't back up your argument, which just shows that you watch him through a biased lens. The people that are arguing in his favor, myself included, have a reason for it that isn't "RaNgErs FaNbOys LoL"

Again, a link for the giveaways/takeaways per 60 (btw, Kakko's numbers on this are crazy good)

http://naturalstattrick.c...ines=single&draftteam=ALL
- SkjeiStadium

He has gotten so much better this year on the forecheck and boards as far as I have seen. I think big issue is that he is not good. He may ultimately need to be moved to the wing, then he can use his frame and skill on the sides more. The negatives i've seen people have of him are partly due to his center ice abilities. He's a talent that should not be tossed, but maybe re-imagined?

He has gotten so much better this year on the forecheck and boards as far as I have seen. I think big issue is that he is not good. He may ultimately need to be moved to the wing, then he can use his frame and skill on the sides more. The negatives i've seen people have of him are partly due to his center ice abilities. He's a talent that should not be tossed, but maybe re-imagined?
- NYRCeph

I'm not sure what to make of this. Is he good or not? His biggest knock is faceoffs, which I cannot defend and agree he needs to get better at, but that's hardly a reason to trade a 21 year old.

Those arent actual game numbers, but thats essentially a summary of what it looks like. It will be 3 games or so of people critiquing Chytils play, then he drops a dime in the machine after a string of soft games and people forget about them.
- aecliptic

I don't know if people "forget", I think it depends on the emphasis one has on some of those. How much did they impact the game, were they hockey IQ errors, or situational that he was placed in? He has a lot of talent that is evident. My above post, I suggest maybe a re-imagining of his role to use that talent.

See my post regarding his points per 60. Acting like he's averaging 1 assist per 5 games is just wrong.

In terms of turnovers, he averages 2.1 giveaways per 60. Second worse on the team next to Buchnevich (are you complaining about Buch's turnovers?) He also averages 2.91 takeaways per 60. Second best on the team next to Kakko. He's averaging more takeaways than giveaways by a decent margin.

You don't like Chytil which is fine and you're entitled to your opinion, but the stats don't back up your argument, which just shows that you watch him through a biased lens. The people that are arguing in his favor, myself included, have a reason for it that isn't "RaNgErs FaNbOys LoL"

Again, a link for the giveaways/takeaways per 60 (btw, Kakko's numbers on this are crazy good)

http://naturalstattrick.c...ines=single&draftteam=ALL
- SkjeiStadium

Why isnt Chytil the center on the PP and a rental RWing is taking all the PP time?