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SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 16 @ 4:32 PM ET
And the year before when he had 82 points in a REAL NHL season?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Exactly.... on bumbalo. What’s he do on a real team? 15-20% better? So 100 point season? And just about to hit prime
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 16 @ 4:51 PM ET
Lol wut?

Jack Eichel is 24 Years old. Two years younger than Couturier and he has over a point per game in 2 of the last 3 seasons. His career high is 82 points and he had 78 points last season which was 2 points better than Couturier.....

2017-18: 64 points in 67 games
2018-19: 82 points in 77 games
2019-20: 78 points in 68 games
2020-21: 18 points in 21 games

Average #1 C my @ss

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


He was taking about Couturier when he said "average 1c". Also, Eichel is 4 years younger, not 2.

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 16 @ 4:58 PM ET
Coots and TK for Eichel and Ristolainen. I’d do it. Might need to sweeten it to get them to take Ghost so things work out capwise.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 16 @ 5:13 PM ET
we could loosen the guidelines and he still isn't generational dude. he's very good, but not close to generational level. but you were still throwing that around a few months ago, which is hilarious.
- Ftown19125


He might have been referring to the generational length of the Eurasian otter, which is about 2 years.

PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 16 @ 5:16 PM ET
Coots and TK for Eichel and Ristolainen. I’d do it. Might need to sweeten it to get them to take Ghost so things work out capwise.
- hereticpride


They won't though. Not close.

One reason why we will need to offer far more than Couts for Eichel is because Couts may not want to stay around at any reasonable cost and may want to hit UFA instead.




Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Apr 16 @ 5:22 PM ET
IMO any package the Flyers would be offering for Eichel would have to include one of Couts or Provorov. If Buffalo makes it known that he's available, some other team would almost certainly beat any package the Flyers could put together that doesn't include one of those two.

I also think there's no way Buffalo takes a package that includes Jake or any of our other high-priced underperforming vets. If they're selling Eichel, they're looking to hit a homerun. Not take back a bad contract or do us any favors. So again, any Flyers package that would include one of those guys would likely get beaten by another team pretty easily.
I realize that Buffalo would pretty much have to take back some salary in the deal, but my point is I don't think they'd have any trouble finding a good player that is actually earning their paycheck as opposed to one of the guys we're practically trying to give away
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Apr 16 @ 6:00 PM ET
I guess. Holy crap. I didn’t know Allison was a soulless ginger too.
- Hextall271


landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 16 @ 6:17 PM ET
Coots and TK for Eichel and Ristolainen. I’d do it. Might need to sweeten it to get them to take Ghost so things work out capwise.
- hereticpride



NHL radio was talking about Eichel to the LA kings.....
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 16 @ 6:18 PM ET
They won't though. Not close.

One reason why we will need to offer far more than Couts for Eichel is because Couts may not want to stay around at any reasonable cost and may want to hit UFA instead.

- PT21

That’s a good deal for Buffalo. They’re looking to compete and need NHL ready players to build around. If they can’t re-sign Coots they flip him for whatever. Unless someone goes overboard on an offer that’s about the caliber of deals they’re going to get offered.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 16 @ 6:19 PM ET
NHL radio was talking about Eichel to the LA kings.....
- landros 2

I have a feeling the Kings are going to get Laine. Just a hunch.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 16 @ 6:31 PM ET
That’s a good deal for Buffalo. They’re looking to compete and need NHL ready players to build around. If they can’t re-sign Coots they flip him for whatever. Unless someone goes overboard on an offer that’s about the caliber of deals they’re going to get offered.
- hereticpride


How is that a good deal? Whoever they flip Couts to takes the same risk and they get say a couple of 1sts.

TK is trending downwards from last post-season. He is borderline 1st/2nd line winger at this stage. Rasmus is borderline 1st/ 2nd pairing guy. So you give up a franchise center and a 1st pairing D for 2 firsts and a 1st/2nd line winger?

Thats not enough just for Eichel.



PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 16 @ 6:34 PM ET
NHL radio was talking about Eichel to the LA kings.....
- landros 2


Oof.

Kopitar, Eichel and Byfield?

jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 16 @ 6:51 PM ET
I have a feeling the Kings are going to get Laine. Just a hunch.
- hereticpride

Let them, Laine is a dog!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 16 @ 6:52 PM ET
Coots and TK for Eichel and Ristolainen. I’d do it. Might need to sweeten it to get them to take Ghost so things work out capwise.
- hereticpride

Delusional ... Why would the Flyers want to make this trade? I know the Sabres would want to in a heartbeat.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 16 @ 6:53 PM ET
He was taking about Couturier when he said "average 1c". Also, Eichel is 4 years younger, not 2.
- PT21

Eichel is not going anywhere, but if he does he is going to Boston, his home town team.
RICK DERRIS
Location: PA
Joined: 04.15.2021

Apr 16 @ 6:55 PM ET
I think he would be generational on a good team. Or at least that would be his ceiling. But if we’re using very tight guidelines for generational as in 1 in every 25 years type talent then no he isn’t
- SMS4016

Youre either generational or youre not, regardless of the surrounding players. Matthews is a great player, not generational and hes better than Eichel
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 16 @ 7:05 PM ET
Eichel is not going anywhere, but if he does he is going to Boston, his home town team.
- jd250


Fine. I want Seth Jones. Now that his dad is here, hopefully he will follow.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 16 @ 7:13 PM ET
Delusional ... Why would the Flyers want to make this trade? I know the Sabres would want to in a heartbeat.
- jd250

Seriously?

And I think risto is about as overrated as they come.
RICK DERRIS
Location: PA
Joined: 04.15.2021

Apr 16 @ 7:20 PM ET
Fine. I want Seth Jones. Now that his dad is here, hopefully he will follow.
- PT21

If Seth Jones tells CLB that he's not going to resign, the franchise should move or fold....they bleed star talent
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 16 @ 7:42 PM ET
If Seth Jones tells CLB that he's not going to resign, the franchise should move or fold....they bleed star talent
- RICK DERRIS


If I am Seth, I start with asking for the 8th year, the NTC, and 84 mil.

If they want to give that to a guy who will be 28 around when the contract kicks in, fair enough. But it would be a very un-CBJ thing to do.

ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Apr 16 @ 7:51 PM ET
Delusional ... Why would the Flyers want to make this trade? I know the Sabres would want to in a heartbeat.
- jd250

The Sabres would tell you to take a hike if you offered them that and might not trade with the flyers organization ever again if you even suggested it
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Apr 16 @ 7:52 PM ET
I would much rather have jack eichel for the next 5-8 years than Sean couturier and if you think otherwise you are a fool
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 16 @ 8:16 PM ET
Ever since it was pointed out that we needed to catch up Boston and that they’re not that good, every team in our division has proven to be useless including our Flyers that can’t come away with winnable games.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 16 @ 8:30 PM ET
I would much rather have jack eichel for the next 5-8 years than Sean couturier and if you think otherwise you are a fool
- ClaudeFather

This team along with this era of hockey has jaded me to believe big deals cannot favorite the Flyers anymore. In reality though, the Flyers might be able to offer something pretty great for Jack Eichel, with nobody being off limits including Sean Couturier. Although, I think it’s ideal that this team keeps Coots and also gets Eichel.


I’ve always been pro keep the young guys together but in this the question is, what does Buffalo want? A first round pick. Nolan Patrick. I think the only players I call off limits is Carter Hart and Ivan Provorov. They’re players of need.

I’m all in on Jack Eichel over Seth Jones.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Apr 16 @ 9:15 PM ET
This team along with this era of hockey has jaded me to believe big deals cannot favorite the Flyers anymore. In reality though, the Flyers might be able to offer something pretty great for Jack Eichel, with nobody being off limits including Sean Couturier. Although, I think it’s ideal that this team keeps Coots and also gets Eichel.


I’ve always been pro keep the young guys together but in this the question is, what does Buffalo want? A first round pick. Nolan Patrick. I think the only players I call off limits is Carter Hart and Ivan Provorov. They’re players of need.

I’m all in on Jack Eichel over Seth Jones.

- SuperSchennBros

In the hypothetical eichel route I would like to avoid including any Dmen, it’s a weak point to begin with.
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