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SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 16 @ 10:54 AM ET
And why would Couturier want to go to Buffalo?
- DANCER

He has no choice if traded. But why would he want to resign? 8 years 10 million that’s why. Living wise bumbalo actually not bad area. Many players retire here actually. Close to Canada Niagara Falls great housing schools. Great food. People in suburbs generally leave you alone.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 16 @ 11:00 AM ET
He has no choice if traded. But why would he want to resign? 8 years 10 million that’s why. Living wise bumbalo actually not bad area. Many players retire here actually. Close to Canada Niagara Falls great housing schools. Great food. People in suburbs generally leave you alone.
- SMS4016


How is it institutionally racist wise?
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:04 AM ET
He has no choice if traded. But why would he want to resign? 8 years 10 million that’s why. Living wise bumbalo actually not bad area. Many players retire here actually. Close to Canada Niagara Falls great housing schools. Great food. People in suburbs generally leave you alone.
- SMS4016



A few I know here
Jim Kelly
Marcel Dionne
Scotty bowman
Fun fact.. bob froese is a pastor of a church in Clarence a suburb
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 16 @ 11:05 AM ET
Well if he truly wants out what the team gonna do ? Play hardball? I think he’s already stressed he wants out and the last 2 seasons the team has said give us a shot first. Let us try to sign some vets like staal hall. Didn’t work. If the situation turns toxic the trade value goes down. Especially with superstars of very rarely gets to that point.
- SMS4016


Hate to break it to you, but there's no proof he even wants out.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:06 AM ET
How is it institutionally racist wise?
- Just5

Depends on what context.. definitely racism here. Very multicultural everywhere including suburbs. Naturally the further out you go the “whiter” I’d say on par with with most small big city areas.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:09 AM ET
Hate to break it to you, but there's no proof he even wants out.
- Tomahawk

It’s not that he “wants” out. He sees his peers having success. Being in playoffs. He wants that which is natural. Obviously bumbalo tried. He’s been a good soldier but they obviously aren’t close in sense next year or year after. He’s been in league 5 years. These star players aren’t waiting 7-8-9 years to finally make playoffs.
DANCER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.30.2019

Apr 16 @ 11:15 AM ET
I know its fun to fantasize about trades, but when was the last time the Flyers traded for a player of Eichels caliber in his prime? Pronger is a name but he was actua!ly getting a little older. Before that...maybe Reggie Leach, Mark Howe? Point is its not probable.
DANCER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.30.2019

Apr 16 @ 11:20 AM ET
I know its fun to fantasize about trades, but when was the last time the Flyers traded for a player of Eichels caliber in his prime? Pronger is a name but he was actua!ly getting a little older. Before that...maybe Reggie Leach, Mark Howe? Point is its not probable.
bsw31usa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lindbergh31RIP!!!, PA
Joined: 01.12.2016

Apr 16 @ 11:22 AM ET
I know its fun to fantasize about trades, but when was the last time the Flyers traded for a player of Eichels caliber in his prime? Pronger is a name but he was actua!ly getting a little older. Before that...maybe Reggie Leach, Mark Howe? Point is its not probable.
- DANCER



Lindros
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:23 AM ET
I know its fun to fantasize about trades, but when was the last time the Flyers traded for a player of Eichels caliber in his prime? Pronger is a name but he was actua!ly getting a little older. Before that...maybe Reggie Leach, Mark Howe? Point is its not probable.
- DANCER


Recchi trade to Montreal.
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mkabbeko
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2013

Apr 16 @ 11:29 AM ET
I think that this community seriously undervalues Coots. IMO when you are talking Coots + any other asset, the return is very few players in this league, and Eichel is not one of them.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:31 AM ET
I think that this community seriously undervalues Coots. IMO when you are talking Coots + any other asset, the return is very few players in this league, and Eichel is not one of them.
- mkabbeko


The problem isn’t coots. It’s where here’s slotted.
Average middle of the pact at best 1c
Great top tier 2c

Which is better? Which do you build with?
mkabbeko
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2013

Apr 16 @ 11:35 AM ET
The problem isn’t coots. It’s where here’s slotted.
Average middle of the pact at best 1c
Great top tier 2c

Which is better? Which do you build with?

- SMS4016


Me personally, I would build around your Bergeron's, Couturier's, O'Reilly's all day long. Not only do they score, but they do EVERYTHING else too.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 16 @ 11:39 AM ET
I think that this community seriously undervalues Coots. IMO when you are talking Coots + any other asset, the return is very few players in this league, and Eichel is not one of them.
- mkabbeko


If Coots were 26, if our young'uns were further along, and if Hayes was not condemned to be 7m center for the next eternity, I personally would never advocate for Couts leaving.

No one shows up more consistently than him. When was the last time he had a bad game or was invisible? He is never scoreless for long. He makes every line he plays on better.

But: b/c of factors other than his play, I don't see any road that gives greater odds of future contending than Couts trade.

Whether Eichel is the guy you trade him for is a different story though.

SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:40 AM ET
If Coots were 26, if our young'uns were further along, and if Hayes was not condemned to be 7m center for the next eternity, I personally would never advocate for Couts leaving.

No one shows up more consistently than him. When was the last time he had a bad game or was invisible? He is never scoreless for long. He makes every line he plays on better.

But: b/c of factors other than his play, I don't see any road that gives greater odds of future contending than Couts trade.

Whether Eichel is the guy you trade him for is a different story though.

- PT21



EXACTLY. This guy gets it.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 16 @ 11:41 AM ET
It’s not that he “wants” out. He sees his peers having success. Being in playoffs. He wants that which is natural. Obviously bumbalo tried. He’s been a good soldier but they obviously aren’t close in sense next year or year after. He’s been in league 5 years. These star players aren’t waiting 7-8-9 years to finally make playoffs.
- SMS4016


I don't remember Taylor Hall ever requesting a trade and he missed the POs how many years in a row?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 16 @ 11:42 AM ET
Depends on what context.. definitely racism here. Very multicultural everywhere including suburbs. Naturally the further out you go the “whiter” I’d say on par with with most small big city areas.
- SMS4016


Thank you
mkabbeko
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2013

Apr 16 @ 11:43 AM ET
If Coots were 26, if our young'uns were further along, and if Hayes was not condemned to be 7m center for the next eternity, I personally would never advocate for Couts leaving.

No one shows up more consistently than him. When was the last time he had a bad game or was invisible? He is never scoreless for long. He makes every line he plays on better.

But: b/c of factors other than his play, I don't see any road that gives greater odds of future contending than Couts trade.

Whether Eichel is the guy you trade him for is a different story though.

- PT21


That's a fair POV, but what I am saying is that the proposals thrown around on these boards today is Coots + Frost + 2 firsts for Eichel and I think that is bonkers and why i say that he is undervalued here.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:43 AM ET
My gut feeling is eichel is traded to rags. They have tons of assets. And they rule division for next 5+years
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 16 @ 11:44 AM ET
Hart played really well, and Allison looked like he belonged. Hopefully those trends continue the rest of the year.

Hope Patrick is ok, That was pretty scary considering his history.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 16 @ 11:44 AM ET
That's a fair POV, but what I am saying is that the proposals thrown around on these boards today is Coots + Frost + 2 firsts for Eichel and I think that is bonkers and why i say that he is undervalued here.
- mkabbeko


😂😂

I personally would not do that one either.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:46 AM ET
That's a fair POV, but what I am saying is that the proposals thrown around on these boards today is Coots + Frost + 2 firsts for Eichel and I think that is bonkers and why i say that he is undervalued here.
- mkabbeko


It’s not coots is undervalued but the opposite actually. To get a talented player like eichel you have to give up a lot. Coots isn’t a throwin. You gonna lose a huge piece which coots is. The question is ... is eichel worth it? IMO yes
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:47 AM ET
I don't remember Taylor Hall ever requesting a trade and he missed the POs how many years in a row?
- Tomahawk

Taylor who? He’s nowhere near eichel level. We’re talking about the elite player level here
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 16 @ 11:49 AM ET
My gut feeling is eichel is traded to rags. They have tons of assets. And they rule division for next 5+years
- SMS4016


We will see. I have doubts about Mike Z and their D.

Btw, What do Jack Hughes, Kakko, and Lafraniere have in common:

They are all trending in a ppg pretty similar or worse compared to NP 1st 2 years.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 16 @ 11:50 AM ET
Taylor who? He’s nowhere near eichel level. We’re talking about the elite player level here
- SMS4016


Eichel isn't elite. He's Taylor Hall level.
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