Takes the pressure off Rielly
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Sarcasm I am hoping.

The players got out of shape in 8 days... really...?
- bixll

Playing devil's (AKA CC's) advocate here, lingering effects of covid could cause them to be in less than perfect shape

Playing devil's (AKA CC's) advocate here, lingering effects of covid could cause them to be in less than perfect shape
- TheMussel

TFB, game on..

TFB, game on..
- bixll

I demand my amusement

Playing devil's (AKA CC's) advocate here, lingering effects of covid could cause them to be in less than perfect shape
- TheMussel

The troll army grows

The troll army grows
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1967

I’m all in favour of improving conditions in meat packing plants but if they’re not considered ready they shouldn’t play. When they are, they can play. Any worker in any situation is entitled to have their safety taken seriously.
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If they are not considered ready by whom? Themselves? Dr. JT Miller?

I don't disagree with the sentiment that any worker in any situation is entitled to have their safety taken seriously - that's why there is legislation that allows workers to refuse work without penalty from their employer when it is indeed unsafe.

I'm talking about a pro athlete saying they aren't in 'game shape' vs it being safe here, he may not feel he is in game shape but why should the rest of the teams in the division have to deal with an even more compressed scheduled and risk inury as a result of not getting enough time between games to accommodate Vancouver?

Vancouver, who got COVID, regardless of if it was due to someone from their organization not following protocols or not (Blame) and is very likely to miss the playoffs anyhow.

Imagine if the league gives Vancouver extra time, & as a result further compresses the schedule to accommodate Vancouver and a star player gets hurt or a starting goalie for a playoff team pulls a groin due to a lack of rest?

If others teams have to suffer to give Vancouver this extra time they are asking for (and there is no obvious or emergent safety risk to Vancouver) when they are medically cleared to play I think they should be forced to do so (play that is).

Or again - pack in the season and give wins to all the teams who had games remaining against them.

Just my opinion.

The troll army grows
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Does this refer to myself ??

Kristen Shilton
@kristen_shilton
Auston Matthews was first man on the ice for #Leafs morning skate...and then left before it started.

Weird.

Does this refer to myself ??
- bixll

Mussel

If they are not considered ready by whom? Themselves? Dr. JT Miller?

I don't disagree with the sentiment that any worker in any situation is entitled to have their safety taken seriously - that's why there is legislation that allows workers to refuse work without penalty from their employer when it is indeed unsafe.

I'm talking about a pro athlete saying they aren't in 'game shape' vs it being safe here, he may not feel he is in game shape but why should the rest of the teams in the division have to deal with an even more compressed scheduled and risk inury as a result of not getting enough time between games to accommodate Vancouver?

Vancouver who got COVID, regardless of it it was due to someone from their organization not following protocols or not (Blame) and is very likely to miss the playoffs anyhow.

Imagine if the league gives Vancouver extra time, & as a result further compresses the schedule to accommodate Vancouver and a star player gets hurt or a starting goalie for a playoff team pulls a groin due to a lack of rest?

If others teams have to suffer to give Vancouver this extra time they are asking for (and there is no obvious or emergent safety risk to Vancouver) when they are medically cleared to play I think they should be forced to do so.

Or again - pack in the season and give wins to all the teams who had games remaining against them.

Just my opinion.
- Cush29

I added a sentence saying there will be medical evaluations today.

I added a sentence saying there will be medical evaluations today.
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Dr. JT Miller will present his finding this afternoon.

If they are not considered ready by whom? Themselves? Dr. JT Miller?

I don't disagree with the sentiment that any worker in any situation is entitled to have their safety taken seriously - that's why there is legislation that allows workers to refuse work without penalty from their employer when it is indeed unsafe.

I'm talking about a pro athlete saying they aren't in 'game shape' vs it being safe here, he may not feel he is in game shape but why should the rest of the teams in the division have to deal with an even more compressed scheduled and risk inury as a result of not getting enough time between games to accommodate Vancouver?

Vancouver who got COVID, regardless of it it was due to someone from their organization not following protocols or not (Blame) and is very likely to miss the playoffs anyhow.

Imagine if the league gives Vancouver extra time, & as a result further compresses the schedule to accommodate Vancouver and a star player gets hurt or a starting goalie for a playoff team pulls a groin due to a lack of rest?

If others teams have to suffer to give Vancouver this extra time they are asking for (and there is no obvious or emergent safety risk to Vancouver) when they are medically cleared to play I think they should be forced to do so.

Or again - pack in the season and give wins to all the teams who had games remaining against them.

Just my opinion.
- Cush29

I mean sports science says too much time off will result in injury...it is 100% true that they are in a position that is not as safe to play as it were 2 weeks ago. With that being said yeah they should either play or choose to forfeit games against Ottawa so they can add to their schedule.

Its an unfortunate situation but the league isnt really in a position where they can accommodate. If they dont feel safe to play allow them to forfeit against Ottawa.

I added a sentence saying there will be medical evaluations today.
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That's a good thing, I just hope if they are medically cleared to play the league says "game on".

I mean players playing at less than 100% of game shape is something I think we all agree has been happening to a lot of players this year and will continue.

Off the top of my head on the Leafs we have Matthews, Simmonds, Andersen and Campbell, JT (we suspect) to name just a few.

I mean sports science says too much time off will result in injury...it is 100% true that they are in a position that is not as safe to play as it were 2 weeks ago. With that being said yeah they should either play or choose to forfeit games against Ottawa so they can add to their schedule.

Its an unfortunate situation but the league isnt really in a position where they can accommodate. If they dont feel safe to play allow them to forfeit against Ottawa.
- Santo_44

It is very unfortunate indeed. I have an issue with forfeiting some games and not others however but I don't see any magic solution here where someone doesn't get screwed over in some way ranging from exceptionally slight to big time.

One could argue even playing the games give the teams the Canucks have games against right away an advantage to teams they play in a week when presumably they will have found their legs and game again and will be harder to beat.

Even the option to 'forfeit all their remaining games' scenario presents a small "Well but" as is removes the opportunity for a team to not have picked up points that they will be simply given but what can you do.

These 2 options are the ones I see as the best of what's available but it's all meaningless if the medical report / examinations say they can't play due to it being unsafe.

Dr. JT Miller will present his finding this afternoon.
- bixll

Why is it that you think they don’t want to play? Lazy? They know they’re going to lose? Not 100%? Players go through this every year. If a bunch of them have not fully recovered from a serious illness and are worried about playing in that condition, we should take them seriously. If not, they could just let McDavid score 30 tomorrow and win the Richard trophy

It is very unfortunate indeed. I have an issue with forfeiting some games and not others however but I don't see any magic solution here where someone doesn't get screwed over in some way ranging from exceptionally slight to big time.

One could argue even playing the games give the teams the Canucks have games against right away an advantage to teams they play in a week when presumably they will have found their legs and game again and will be harder to beat.

Even the option to 'forfeit all their remaining games' scenario presents a small "Well but" as is removes the opportunity for a team to not have picked up points that they will be simply given but what can you do.

These 2 options are the ones I see as the best of what's available but it's all meaningless if the medical report / examinations say they can't play due to it being unsafe.
- Cush29

All of the speculation going into the season was that if one team can't play all their games, the league would figure out a way to try to make it equitable to all teams. They aren't going to just give teams free points.

Takes the pressure off Rielly
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The amount of poop Chabot was getting on the radio today was pretty Rielly-esque. So much for the Team Canada starter nod!

That's a good thing, I just hope if they are medically cleared to play the league says "game on".

I mean players playing at less than 100% of game shape is something I think we all agree has been happening to a lot of players this year and will continue.

Off the top of my head on the Leafs we have Matthews, Simmonds, Andersen and Campbell, JT (we suspect) to name just a few.
- Cush29

They’re bringing in Trump’s doctor

All of the speculation going into the season was that if one team can't play all their games, the league would figure out a way to try to make it equitable to all teams. They aren't going to just give teams free points.
- Atomic Wedgie

And if a team doesn't agree with those terms like JT Miller is implying they have the right to forfeit games.

Why is it that you think they don’t want to play? Lazy? They know they’re going to lose? Not 100%? Players go through this every year. If a bunch of them have not fully recovered from a serious illness and are worried about playing in that condition, we should take them seriously. If not, they could just let McDavid score 30 tomorrow and win the Richard trophy
- Canada Cup

No, they should forfeit the game. Not getting into this all (frank)in day..

Cheers

All of the speculation going into the season was that if one team can't play all their games, the league would figure out a way to try to make it equitable to all teams. They aren't going to just give teams free points.
- Atomic Wedgie

Agreed but I'm struggling to see what a more equitable way to resolve the situation might be?

Why is it that you think they don’t want to play? Lazy? They know they’re going to lose? Not 100%? Players go through this every year. If a bunch of them have not fully recovered from a serious illness and are worried about playing in that condition, we should take them seriously. If not, they could just let McDavid score 30 tomorrow and win the Richard trophy
- Canada Cup

Let the team DRs and trainers figure it out. JT Miller just needs to quiet down.

They’re bringing in Trump’s doctor
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Ah - so a strict diet of alternating KFC and Big Macs to rebuild muscle and get into game shape will be the solution.

Let the team DRs and trainers figure it out. JT Miller just needs to quiet down.
- Santo_44

"Paging Dr. Miller to the STFU ward....STAT"