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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 14 @ 8:16 PM ET
Take Coots away and they're still not bad enough to be picking top-5.
- Tomahawk


I said shed $ too, right?

Take away Couts and Voracek and JVR, bring in a oldish vet on a 3 year deal opposite Provy and play our youngsters heavily. I bet we would get close.

Then use picks prospects + trade returns basket to move closer if needed.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 14 @ 8:18 PM ET
Trade him! Do the rebuild right this time around! You guys are gonna come around to this eventually.

Cirelli+ if TB loses.

Newhook+ if Avs lose

If a team like Carolina gets closer than expected, they will be looking for a quality 2C and they have lots of good prospects.

Else, 2 firsts+ from anyone.

Next 2-3 years: lots of $ shed, lots of picks attained, lots of chaff from wheat separated in our young 'uns.

Then make some critical supplementary signings.

Resign Giroux to play vet nanny.

- PT21


They won’t do it I don’t think. I’m not against trading couts at all. They’d get a haul at the deadline.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 14 @ 8:18 PM ET
I said shed $ too, right?

Take away Couts and Voracek and JVR, bring in a oldish vet on a 3 year deal opposite Provy and play our youngsters heavily. I bet we would get close.

Then use picks prospects + trade returns basket to move closer if needed.

- PT21


Still maybe not enough.

Like Detroit has nobody, and they're still only 6th worst.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 14 @ 8:22 PM ET
They won’t do it I don’t think. I’m not against trading couts at all. They’d get a haul at the deadline.
- Just5


I know they won't. Whatever hope there was ended when CF categorically said the coaches will return. I do not believe that AV+Therrien+Yeo are the guys to stick around for 3 years of deliberate bottom dwelling.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 14 @ 8:27 PM ET
Still maybe not enough.

Like Detroit has nobody, and they're still only 6th worst.

- Tomahawk


Its not bottom 5 or bust, you know. You do the best you can, and scoop as much as you can, and reassess and then start afresh.

Essentially what Wings are doing. No external help to move up the rankings. They will move up when the natural progression of their young players move them up.

What we should have done after 2006.
delzottohattrick
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.30.2021

Apr 14 @ 8:38 PM ET
Your username is a start
- Just5


what do you have against a blonde, a brunette, and a red head?
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 14 @ 8:55 PM ET
In fact?

Kopitar no 100 pt seasons.
Bergeron has never broken 80pts.
Datsyuk's the only one to have come close, but he never topped 100 either.


Fine...
kopitar-Stanley cups
Bergy - Stanley cups
Datsyuk- Stanley cups

Point made or nah

- Tomahawk

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 14 @ 9:33 PM ET
Trade him! Do the rebuild right this time around! You guys are gonna come around to this eventually.

Cirelli+ if TB loses.

Newhook+ if Avs lose

If a team like Carolina gets closer than expected, they will be looking for a quality 2C and they have lots of good prospects.

Else, 2 firsts+ from anyone.

Next 2-3 years: lots of $ shed, lots of picks attained, lots of chaff from wheat separated in our young 'uns.

i offered you this yesterday and you turned your nose up!

Then make some critical supplementary signings.

Resign Giroux to play vet nanny.

- PT21

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 14 @ 9:34 PM ET
what do you have against a blonde, a brunette, and a red head?
- delzottohattrick


Haaa
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 14 @ 9:37 PM ET
[quote=stayinthefnnet]

Plagiarism alert?
DANCER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.30.2019

Apr 14 @ 9:43 PM ET
I know they won't. Whatever hope there was ended when CF categorically said the coaches will return. I do not believe that AV+Therrien+Yeo are the guys to stick around for 3 years of deliberate bottom dwelling.
- PT21

Did Fletcher actually say that? He needs to join them on the unemployment line. He's the guy that brought us Gus instead of a competent defenseman to start off the year. It'll be very tough to get behind them next year.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 14 @ 9:50 PM ET
phils suck again
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 14 @ 9:53 PM ET
Jake for lucic straight up
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 14 @ 9:58 PM ET
Jake for lucic straight up
- Just5

I think I suggested this last summer and was told thats too much of a downgrade from Jake
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 14 @ 10:02 PM ET
[quote=PT21]
dont know where my response went.

i said, i offered you that exact deal yesterday and you turned your nose up at it haha
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 14 @ 10:02 PM ET
phils suck again
- 2Real

ridiculous
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Apr 14 @ 10:12 PM ET
Ugh. At least the 76ers are fun.

Helps being a 4 for 4 Philly fan.

...kinda

But the Flyers will always be #1 for me. This season is so disheartening. And that’s the right term, because ‘heart’ is seen few and far between. No heart. No team defense. Just a complete lack of ‘give a sh**’ outside of a few guys.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 14 @ 11:21 PM ET
I think I suggested this last summer and was told thats too much of a downgrade from Jake
- hereticpride


I honestly don’t think Calgary would go for it unless we ate $$
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 15 @ 12:42 AM ET
Point made or nah
- SMS4016


Nah, cuz Coots is gonna have just as good a career as Kopitar and Bergy, and that seems to be enough to win a Cup with.

Datsyuk is a step above, no argument there.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 15 @ 12:59 AM ET
Nah, cuz Coots is gonna have just as good a career as Kopitar and Bergy, and that seems to be enough to win a Cup with.

Datsyuk is a step above, no argument there.

- Tomahawk

In all honesty. I can see kopitar. Bergy with his 20 selke trophy’s is not only better defensively but offensively slightly better too IMO and definitely more clutch. I’d say kopitar slightly better. Bergy a step above. Pavel just on another level to be honest. The point I was making was being considered or winning selke as justification for being a clear cut #1c is just wrong IMO. I just gave those examples to show the difference between coots and other selke winners.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Apr 15 @ 8:50 AM ET
Rebuilding rangers well on their way to pass us as well, Frank this team
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 15 @ 8:59 AM ET
Rebuilding rangers well on their way to pass us as well, Frank this team
- ClaudeFather

Yes, well it helps when you get the top 1 or 2 picks in the draft 2 years in a row and draft in the top 10 4 years in a row. However, they have done more than draft. They have made great hockey trades as well, getting the likes of Zibanejab, Panarin and Trouba while making a good decision to resign Kreider. This is what happens when you do a rebuild properly, you draft high, you make good trades and sign the right people. And they still have $2.3M in cap space this year. Its a nice counter example to what the Flyers have done in their supposed rebuild.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 15 @ 9:01 AM ET
Jake for lucic straight up
- Just5

Lucic Sucks with a capital 'S', we already have enough of these types of players!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 15 @ 9:06 AM ET
Nah, cuz Coots is gonna have just as good a career as Kopitar and Bergy, and that seems to be enough to win a Cup with.

Datsyuk is a step above, no argument there.

- Tomahawk

If you had to choose between Couts, Kopitar or Bergeron who do you choose? For me, I would pick Kopitar or Bergeron before Couts, but its really close.
EROTIC JESUS
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Omar Comin.. HEAD OR GUT....Watching regular white people, PA
Joined: 04.14.2021

Apr 15 @ 9:09 AM ET
SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) Anthony Stolarz made 27 saves and nearly posted a second straight shutout against San Jose, Ryan Getzlaf scored his first goal in more than a month and the Anaheim Ducks completed a two-game sweep of the Sharks with a 4-1 win Wednesday night.

"Stoley played great for us," said forward Derek Grant, who also scored for Anaheim. "He made a number of big saves when we needed him to. ... It's unfortunate they got one by Stoley because he's been great these last two games."

Stolarz followed up a 46-save performance in a 4-0 win Monday night with another strong performance against the struggling Sharks.

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